Bag of Milk Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: This also means Cousins is out I didn't know he was ever in. Tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Ugh... omg PFF SUCKS so bad.. stop using it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Good piece, but this is why the grading system is flawed, especially for qbs: The greatness of Rodgers’ performance last night was in the intangibles. Recognizing the blitz, drawing the defense offsides, catching the Chiefs in bad situations and exploiting those scenarios with simple passes to open receivers. But you cannot — and we do not try to — quantify intangibles, or what comes pre-snap. Our system grades what can be graded — the execution of the play post-snap — and in that regard Rodgers did not stand out in the same way that his statistics did. Yes, but Star Lotulelei isn't drawing defenses offsides. QB will always be one of, if not the hardest position to evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: How a fan explains every crappy NFL defensive tackle: "He's a space eater, not a disrupter." You don't sign space eaters to five-year contracts. This is a bad signing. Why wouldn't you sign them to a 5 year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How a fan explains every crappy NFL defensive tackle: "He's a space eater, not a disrupter." You don't sign space eaters to five-year contracts. This is a bad signing. Well then the Pats and Bill Belicheck didn't know what the hell he was doing with Vince Wilfork. They signed him to a 5 year deal and then a 3 year extension a few years later. Edited March 13, 2018 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Stop using PFF as an end all be all. 6 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Pay no attention to that grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Quick! Email that to Beane. He must not have seen this. It's not too late to back out. LOL yep.. PFF is only a small part of what actually happens on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: omg PFF SUCKS so bad.. stop using it Nearly every team in the NFL has hired them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Besides Tyrod missing open guys, this is why we lost the Jacksonville game. No pressure up the middle allowed Bortles to step up in the pocket. Once he got out our 4.9 MIKE was too slow to catch him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Thats fine. His defensive coordinator in Carolina just appoved a 5 year deal. Says a lot about the player and person. He fills a hole. Sometimes these NTs that don't disrupt the backfield are hard to grade. I do agree with that. I hope it turns out to be a good deal. But Star was also working with incredible teammates every year and still failed to produce. Perhaps there's just comfort in knowing what you're getting with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Solid character signing. Father was a Mormon Missionary who brought his family here and got a doctorate from Brigham Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I like this a lot. I don't know NFL talent, and I'm unfamiliar with Star. So why do I like him? McBeane like him. They know him and like him. He played for McD and his play was excellent. His stats dropped off last season, which was the one season he didn't play for McD. He must like McD to have decided to come to Buffalo. He's first round talent, and there's no substitute for talent. Linemen tend to last a long time, so he could be a fixture for five years or more. This may help bring Kyle back. It means Kyle doesn't have to carry the inside. Star seems to be more of a space eater, which frees up Kyle to do what he does best - slash. I think Kyle retires or returns to Buffalo, and this will help him decide to return. This also means Cousins is out. Bills are spending the cap elsewhere. Looks like Bradford and a rookie. THIS means Cousins is out? Lol The reports he's narrowed his suitors didn't do it for you? That said, I'll agree if they dig him - they'd know and we needed the help so if this is their answer, ? I c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Ugh... So according to PFF, Lotulelei had his best year as a rookie and has been on a steady decline since? Something doesn't add up. To me it looks like PFF has a whacked out metric. Doesn't make much sense that Lotulelei had his best season as a rookie and was significantly worst the year they went to the Super Bowl. I really don't understand why people still reference PFF after they told you Aaron Rodgers had a bad 5 TD game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) I'm guessing 5 years 45 million. About half what Dareus would cost. Edited March 13, 2018 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Now we get to see whether Rob Quinn is right or not. I don't feel you can look at stats to judge Lotulelei's play. He's never been a stats guy. He's about plugging the middle and protecting the LBs and safeties so they can run to ball. Also, it appears Carolina changed the way they used him in year three. He went from playing the penetrating RDT to the space eater LDT, which likely changed people's perceptions of his play... Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Sacks & Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Yds TD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds TD Sk Tkl Ast Sfty AV Career 76 75 0 0 0 0 5 2 0 2 0 0 11.5 88 62 34 2013 24 CAR RDT 98 16 16 3.0 34 14 9 2014 25 CAR dt/rdt 98 14 13 0 0 0 0 1 2.0 21 8 6 2015 26 CAR LDT 98 14 14 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 1.0 13 9 6 2016 27 CAR LDT 98 16 16 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 4.0 14 12 7 2017 28 CAR DT 98 16 16 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1.5 6 19 6 Edited March 13, 2018 by Lurker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Nearly every team in the NFL has hired them. Proof please, not saying you are lying but I haven't seen this and I would like to know the extent of work they are doing for teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Thanks. I'm watching highlight videos of him on YouTube, he seemed like a reaaaaaallly good prospect coming out of college, hopefully he returns to form. I'm going to dig around for more videos. What is it you're looking for? DT's that fill the plugger role never make the message board HOF's but they're extremely important of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The Bills desperately need help at DT. Hopefully he can eat 2 blockers (or at least hold them up if he doesn’t feel like eating them). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Not sure how I feel about this. Need to see the money. To dump one big salary in Dareus and then then around and spend money on him seems a little counter productive. Especially if we are going to keep rotating out defensive lineman like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I trust the process and so should you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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