OldTimer1960 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I think this will be a great signing. He is only 28/29 and I don't think he has had any major injuries. I am very happy with the signing - clearly McDermott knows a LOT about him (having coached him). 1
FearLess Price Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Looks like well pick up some OL and LB help in fA next. Maybe even a WR
NewEraBills Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Now all they need to do is hope Phillips is there in round 2. Take him and DT is set. Edge is going to be an issue.
Buffalo Boy Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: What’s the over/under on the number of people who have actually watched him enough to even give a basic fan-level opinion? Two? I’m a Panthers fan also and have enjoyed watching the Panthers D. Stars job was simply to take on blockers so Kueckly and Davis could go hunting( in a nutshell) . He’s no Ted Washington but he’s decent. He doesn’t really push the pocket or tackle or that matter. The Panthers press line has been the old “ stats don’t show how important he is in our scheme.” I think there is some truth to this but we are going to have to upgrade our LBs dramatically if we intend to use him the same way.
Dr. Who Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I didn't really like the Chris Ivory signing. Better than Tolbert, but why aren't we bringing in younger, cheaper rbs? This signing, as well, seems to be a fella whose numbers have declined. However, I think you have to give McDermott the benefit of the doubt on this one. He knows the player and scheme fit. Player effectiveness doesn't always translate into flashy numbers. For certain, we needed to bring in DT help. The front seven in general needs an infusion of talent. 1
Mikie's Bills Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: If you can't see that hat the new coach and GM are light years ahead of BOTH the old coach and GM then I can't help you. forward thinking team building culture cap implications Hope like heck these guys pick the right QB because they can function as a pair. McDermott is 10X the coach Rex was, not debating that. Whaley assembled some very talented teams on both sides of the ball during his tenure here though. Top 5 defense, top rushing offenses (obviously not during the same year or else the drought would have been over sooner lol) and those players that he brought in and left to other teams have been key guys on winning teams and getting paid (Bradham/Darby/Gilmore/Watkins/Woods/Hogan/ Robey/ can even toss in Goodwin if you like). This regime clearly has a plan, if they can execute it and find their franchise QB then they'll be successful. I would just rather they not make the same mistakes as Rex with regards to bringing in their former guys just because they're "their guys". No more Kaelin Clays or Mike Tolberts of the world. Benjamin could be decent piece longterm, but his health and weight issues could make him a risky investment. Star remains to be seen, depends on the money and if he can make an impact or just another guy. We'll see.
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Yes they give you an idea of what you're getting in a player. Again you have provided no new information so I'm going to suggest you havent found any new info to add? No, I am just going off trusting Beane & McDermotte, plus what taking heads like Sal Cappachio say about his ability. To me that is more credible than PFF which gave Aaron Rodgers a negative grade when he threw for 333 yards, 5 TD's and 0 ints. Then they doubled down and tried to defend their grade in this article https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/why-aaron-rodgers-earned-a-slightly-negative-grade. PFF has some good stuff but there is definitely metrics they are using that are out of whack. In Lotulelei case, I noticed that PFF has his grade on a steady from his rookie year, with his rookie year being his best. It is my thought that maybe as the defense got better from say Lotulelei's rookie year to the year they went to the Super Bowl his numbers and PFF score went down because Carloina starting adding better players and Lotulelei had less opportunities to make plays because other players were making them too. I just think PFF is not taking everything into account and some of their grades are deeply flawed. Edited March 13, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12
OldTimer1960 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I didn't really like the Chris Ivory signing. Better than Tolbert, but why aren't we bringing in younger, cheaper rbs? This signing, as well, seems to be a fella whose numbers have declined. However, I think you have to give McDermott the benefit of the doubt on this one. He knows the player and scheme fit. Player effectiveness doesn't always translate into flashy numbers. For certain, we needed to bring in DT help. The front seven in general needs an infusion of talent. He had a really good rookie year and his stats have been about level in the years since. I think that may suggest that offenses figured out after his first year that he needed some extra attention, but I don't see declining stats from 2014 to present. 1
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: No I am just going of trusting Beane & McDermotte, plus what taking head like Sal Cappachio say about his ability. To me that is more credible than PFF which gave Aaron Rodgers a negative grade when he threw for 333 yards, 5 TD's and 0 ints. Then they doubled down and tried to defend their grade in this article https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/why-aaron-rodgers-earned-a-slightly-negative-grade. PFF has some good stuff but there is definitely metrics they are using that are out of whack. In Lotulelei case, I noticed that PFF has his grade on a steady from his rookie year, with his rookie year being his best. It is my thought that maybe as the defense got better from say Lotulelei's rookie year to the year they went to the Super Bowl his numbers and PFF score went down because Carloina starting adding better players and Lotulelei had less opportunities to make plays because other players were making them too. I just think PFF is not taking everything into account and some of their grades are deeply flawed. He's a Bill, I'll support it but I don't have to like every move being made. I was just pointing out the facts I had in front of me.
Patrick Duffy Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Wsam4031 said: yea not a fan of this at all. Think hes a below average player now. I hope crow is on the menu for dinner but at this point I don't see it Disagree. He is a very good DT that will gobble up double teams, and now with KW signing and not retiring this is great for the defensive line. Still expect them to draft a DT though for depth and from what I understand the draft is deep at the DT position. This is great move by the Bills IMO.
NewEra Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Love the signing maybe a bit to long. We should get 3 good years out of him. Now let's draft a quality DT. Have to see the gtd money. Years mean nothing without it
Boca BIlls Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Need to know the $$$ before I react. No you don't, just react. Money doesn't mean anything. 1 2
Wsam4031 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Disagree. He is a very good DT that will gobble up double teams, and now with KW signing and not retiring this is great for the defensive line. Still expect them to draft a DT though for depth and from what I understand the draft is deep at the DT position. This is great move by the Bills IMO. I really hope your right but doesn't make me all warm and fuzzy after watching him the past few years
Rubes Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: That's not his game. He's still rated as one of the better run stopping DT's in the league. Sarcasm? 1
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Wsam4031 said: yea not a fan of this at all. Think hes a below average player now. I hope crow is on the menu for dinner but at this point I don't see it Is he better than what we currently have? The answer is yes n that's all we need to care about...
NickelCity Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Need addressed. Hope we can get him on track, and that it's a team friendly deal.
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 5 year deal One of the main targets I both thought we would get and wanted us to get! So stoked!!!!!
billsfan89 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 It all depends on cost and guarantee (Although terms not being released is generally a good sign.) At 5-6 million per with a guarantee around 12 million I love this deal as it is exactly what this team needed at that position and at a good cost. At 7 million around 15-16 guaranteed (which I suspect it is around) I think it is an OK deal, a bit of an overpay but a respected veteran player that fills a massive need. Much more than 7 million and close to 20 million guaranteed then I don't like this deal as it is too big of an overpay. 1
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