Gugny Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) First of all, I'll preface by saying that I've been down with The Process from the beginning. I got it .. and I get it. I applauded getting rid of Watkins and Woods .. and letting Gillislee walk (to Boston). The purge continues with Glenn - our oft-injured offensive lineman - and now rumors are swirling about Hughes - GOOD. I love stockpiling draft picks, but you can't build a team solely on potential. I believe they will draft well, and will be in good financial shape to be able to retain them long-term. However, I feel like he's not doing enough in Free Agency. Other teams are very active, putting crucial pieces in place (Denver, KC, SF). I just wish Beane would be a tad more aggressive getting some veteran leadership in-house because we'll be a very young team. Edited March 13, 2018 by Gugny 2 5 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: First of all, I'll preface by saying that I've been down with The Process from the beginning. I got it .. and I get it. I understood getting rid of Watkins and Woods .. and letting Gillislee walk (to Boston). But the purge continues with Glenn - our best offensive lineman - and now rumors are swirling about Hughes. I love stockpiling draft picks, but you can't build a team on potential. And even if they draft well, in three years, we won't be able to afford anyone. I feel like he's going rogue and even if we end up with the golden boy QB, we won't be able to surround him with anything but rookies. I feel like you're "going troll" and should get a life, but maybe that's just me. 6
Bag of Milk Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: First of all, I'll preface by saying that I've been down with The Process from the beginning. I got it .. and I get it. I understood getting rid of Watkins and Woods .. and letting Gillislee walk (to Boston). But the purge continues with Glenn - our best offensive lineman - and now rumors are swirling about Hughes. I love stockpiling draft picks, but you can't build a team on potential. And even if they draft well, in three years, we won't be able to afford anyone. I feel like he's going rogue and even if we end up with the golden boy QB, we won't be able to surround him with anything but rookies. It's amazing how the pieces of an NFL team fall into place once you have a franchise QB. Edited March 13, 2018 by Bag of Milk 1
sven233 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 He has given up a below average QB and an oft-injured LT while adding the first pick of the 3rd round and moved up to #12 in the draft. We have basically given away scraps for really great assets. Talk to me when we actually give up something of value. 3
Gugny Posted March 13, 2018 Author Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I feel like you're "going troll" and should get a life, but maybe that's just me. Not trolling, man. Like I said. I have bought into Beane's process from the beginning. His aggressiveness just concerns me. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: Not trolling, man. Like I said. I have bought into Beane's process from the beginning. His aggressiveness just concerns me.
Rubes Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Surely you jest. It’s Gugny. He doesn’t jest.
Ol Dirty B Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I find it odd, that people who supported everything they did... Are now going to start questioning him? Why? How? If anything, and I've been down on Beane and McDermott, and I wasn't one looking to chase Tyrod out of town... I'm excited, I like what they are doing.... I'm not sure what you want them to do? Are you under the impression that they will use all of their top 6 picks, hit on them, and then not be able to afford them in 5 years? They have like 100 mil in cap room going into 2019 FA, and who do they have to resign? I'm still skeptical of some of their man management, but that's the nature of the football. You had no problem shipping out Watkins, probably called him injury prone and this and that, but now you're gonna balk at Glenn getting traded? When the line was better than the WR corps? Glenn barely played and Dion Dawkins filled in well. I don't get it. 2
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 your about to enter the ring of fire. Let the man do his job.
DefenseWins Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Beane is the Gordon Gecko of the NFL... I think we're lucky to have him... We now have $40million in available 2018 cap space and $100million in available 2019 cap space and soon we'll have a franchise QB... What's not to like? 1
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: First of all, I'll preface by saying that I've been down with The Process from the beginning. I got it .. and I get it. I understood getting rid of Watkins and Woods .. and letting Gillislee walk (to Boston). But the purge continues with Glenn - our best offensive lineman - and now rumors are swirling about Hughes. I love stockpiling draft picks, but you can't build a team on potential. And even if they draft well, in three years, we won't be able to afford anyone. I feel like he's going rogue and even if we end up with the golden boy QB, we won't be able to surround him with anything but rookies. Somebody gets it!!!! Right on,sir.
Boca BIlls Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Trust the process... I mean can't be any worse then the process of the past 17 years. 2
SouthNYfan Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: First of all, I'll preface by saying that I've been down with The Process from the beginning. I got it .. and I get it. I understood getting rid of Watkins and Woods .. and letting Gillislee walk (to Boston). But the purge continues with Glenn - our best offensive lineman - and now rumors are swirling about Hughes. I love stockpiling draft picks, but you can't build a team on potential. And even if they draft well, in three years, we won't be able to afford anyone. I feel like he's going rogue and even if we end up with the golden boy QB, we won't be able to surround him with anything but rookies. How so? 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Not trolling, man. Like I said. I have bought into Beane's process from the beginning. His aggressiveness just concerns me. I like it. Dude seems like he did his hw, knows what it wants, and is willing to go down in a blaze of glory if it doesn't with out. Kinda like Cleveland new GM. Dude is going balls out, I like it. I'm all for a GM and coach who are willing to go down with the ship if need be.
Ol Dirty B Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: How so? I like it. Dude seems like he did his hw, knows what it wants, and is willing to go down in a blaze of glory if it doesn't with out. Kinda like Cleveland new GM. Dude is going balls out, I like it. I'm all for a GM and coach who are willing to go down with the ship if need be. So were you a Whaley fan?
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: Not trolling, man. Like I said. I have bought into Beane's process from the beginning. His aggressiveness just concerns me. It's a viable concern. Like you said, a few years down the road it's going to be tough to fit everyone under the cap. That said I feel like he's being aggressive in this instance, but once he gets his guy under center it's easy to slow down a bit. Getting a QB, as I'm sure you know is costly. It's going to cost you either a season of having a bad football team or will cost picks/players to get there. It's fair to wonder about the future. I like to believe that in the grand scheme of things that Beane will get it right. Win now and win later is what he has preached...and demonstrated.
TheElectricCompany Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 The only move I hated then, and still hate now, was trading Darby. Otherwise, what can you get upset about? He sold high on Glenn and Watkins. Hughes has given us 5 sacks a season. For $10m a season, is it really that shocking if we move on from him? 1
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 It is very evident his top priority is getting a franchise QB. What exactly is irresponsible about that? 1
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, sven233 said: He has given up a below average QB and an oft-injured LT while adding the first pick of the 3rd round and moved up to #12 in the draft. We have basically given away scraps for really great assets. Talk to me when we actually give up something of value. I agree with you but he has to get some good talent in FA. A DL and LB for Defense. An OL on Offense. Personally I will see what kind of roster he brings to camp. We should all know by then.....................until then, get it Beane!
ctk232 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I fail to see how any of the moves so far don't give our rookie a solid starting foundation. Our WR corps is unchanged thus far and we hopefully make a change/addition there. Personally i'd love to see o'reilly get his day. Our OL is the only wildcard, but we aren't working with nothing there either.
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