Augie Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The OP forgot to include this part from the NFL.com draft profile: STRENGTHS Tennis prodigy with impeccable footwork and delivery balance. Plays with excellent coordination between eyes and feet. Gets head around quickly on play-fakes. Has experience under center. Anchors in pocket and doesn't creep around needlessly. Trusts his protection and doesn't take eyes of targets when pressure mounts from the edge. Climbs pocket when appropriate. Willing to stand and deliver in face of pressure. Completed 63 percent of his passes when blitzed in 2017. Accuracy totals negatively impacted by 31 receiver drops this year. Holds his water in pocket. Mechanics are terrific. Rarely over-strides and throws with consistently bent front knee. Throwing motion and follow-through are effortless. Extremely confident and intelligent. Throws receivers open. Might be best back shoulder thrower in the game. Shows ability to speed up operation time for move to next level. Very good usage of shoulder fakes and hitches to move defenders or buy additional time for receivers to uncover. Touch passer who can throw feathers when needed. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/josh-rosen?id=2560059 Yeah, but other than that......
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Yeah, but other than that...... I'm sure it was just an inadvertent oversight.
DallasBillsFan1 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I wonder what the write up on Tom Brady was .... 1
Augie Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: Yes. Allen is big, mobile, and has a rocket arm. Oh and much more durable than Rosen. But he does not appear to be a natural thrower of the football. That’s kinda important. You can say those same positive things about EJ. How did that turn out? I love his ceiling, I dread his floor.
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 What is more important ball placement or arm strength.
Lurker Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: I wonder what the write up on Tom Brady was .... 2
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What is more important ball placement or arm strength. ^^^^This
Kelly the Dog Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What is more important ball placement or arm strength. Arm strength. If you don't have it you cannot succeed in the NFL at all. If you have arm strength but poor ball placement, you can play in the NFL and it's possible that you could be decent, however unlikely. But you can play and even succeed. See Tyrod Taylor. If you lack arm strength you cannot play or ever succeed.
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Oh yeah? OH YEAH?! Well - you've got bust written all over you! 1
Lurker Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/nfl-patriots-tom-brady-draft-college-michigan-scouting-report Interesting physical characteristics and a common skill set : "Brady possesses an unspectacular arm, but it’s good enough to play at the next level. He can drive the ball downfield, especially on in-breaking and seam routes." "From a mechanical standpoint, Brady is among the best in this draft class. Of the top quarterback prospects, only Marshall’s Chad Pennington and West Virginia’s Marc Bulger really compare. Brady’s eyes and feet are totally in sync as he goes from one progression to the next." "But when Brady is asked to work the short passing game, he is at his best, because of his ability process information and get through his reads efficiently." Edited March 13, 2018 by Lurker
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Arm strength. If you don't have it you cannot succeed in the NFL at all. If you have arm strength but poor ball placement, you can play in the NFL and it's possible that you could be decent, however unlikely. But you can play and even succeed. See Tyrod Taylor. If you lack arm strength you cannot play or ever succeed. Really so the best ever and the second best ever and third best ever all could not play or ever succeed. Brady Manning Montana all weaker arms but elite ball placement Just now, Lurker said: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/nfl-patriots-tom-brady-draft-college-michigan-scouting-report Interesting physical characteristics and a common skill set : "From a mechanical standpoint, Brady is among the best in this draft class. Of the top quarterback prospects, only Marshall’s Chad Pennington and West Virginia’s Marc Bulger really compare. Brady’s eyes and feet are totally in sync as he goes from one progression to the next." "But when Brady is asked to work the short passing game, he is at his best, because of his ability process information and get through his reads efficiently." Hmmmmm who in this class has top end Mechanics???
Augie Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Oh yeah? OH YEAH?! Well - you've got bust written all over you! Josh? Is that you? HEY! I like the fire in your belly! 1
Kelly the Dog Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Really so the best ever and the second best ever and third best ever all could not play or ever succeed. Brady Manning Montana all weaker arms but elite ball placement All of them had sufficient arm strength. Brady has a pretty strong arm in the last ten years. One of few that significantly increased. Manning had quite good arm strength for 80-90% of his career. If he started his career with the arm he had at the end he never would have played more than one season. Montana had a good enough arm.
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: All of them had sufficient arm strength. Brady has a pretty strong arm in the last ten years. One of few that significantly increased. Manning had quite good arm strength for 80-90% of his career. If he started his career with the arm he had at the end he never would have played more than one season. Montana had a good enough arm. Good so again Rosen has a good enough arm Darnold has one too. Guess people want the new JP can throw it threw a wall (well if he can hit the wall) in Allen
FastFreddy22 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Dumb post what prospect regardless of position and player name doesn't have bust potential.
Doc Brown Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 Rosen's the least likely to bust imo. Darnold and Mayfield may have more upside, but I'll believe Rosen will have an Eli Manning type career.
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Arm strength. If you don't have it you cannot succeed in the NFL at all. If you have arm strength but poor ball placement, you can play in the NFL and it's possible that you could be decent, however unlikely. But you can play and even succeed. See Tyrod Taylor. If you lack arm strength you cannot play or ever succeed. Hypothetical: do you take the 60mph thrower with poor ball placement or the 55mph thrower with good ball placement?
Rk_Bills86 Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 This was the exact review that literally had media members laughing at it. They thought that the person who wrote it should be fired for being grossly inaccurate.
No Cease Fires Posted March 13, 2018 Posted March 13, 2018 I have a hard time believing that the guy with the best mechanics is the most likely to bust.
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