Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) On 3/11/2018 at 1:20 AM, Zebrastripes said: Let them battle it out. May the best man win. If it's the rookie great if not don't throw him in there and potentially destroy his career. Expand Letting a QB sit doesnt do anything but keep them from experiencing what they need to so they can become better. The only thing that can destroy a QB's career is if they were never meant to be a NFL QB in the first place. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boca BIlls 1
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) On 3/11/2018 at 4:51 AM, Boca BIlls said: Letting a QB sit doesnt do anything but keep them from experiencing what they need to so they can become better. The only thing that can destroy a QB's career is if they were never meant to be a NFL QB in the first place. Expand No way. Sitting allows a qb to learn the nuances of the NFL. If a guy isn't mentally ready to play the game then you're just going to destroy him not develop him by putting him into start day 1. I believe you can teach the mental aspect of the game where as you cannot teach the physical aspwct of the game. So if the rookie has all the physical tools but is struggling with reading a defensive coverage or the terminology of the offense letting him sit and learn these thing would be way more beneficial than throwing him to the wolves. I feel like this does happen to guy which just slowly destroys them over time. Edited March 11, 2018 by Zebrastripes
Kelsos cap Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 There will be a competition. The key is don’t latch onto false positives. Start your bridge, die on that bridge if you have to. Come out next year commanding the afc if you got it right.
greeneblitz Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 no, so sick of years after years of fake compititions start the 1st round pick, give him the vast majority of camp reps and most of the preseason
GreggTX Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 If they trade up, I could see a guy like Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield starting year 1. I could also see them holding onto picks 21 and 22 and taking whoever falls to them, then grabbing a guy like White on day 2. That gives them, perhaps a better chance of finding a long term solution. The plot thickens! I'm genuinely surprised that we got pick 65 for Tyrod too. He's going to have a solid supporting cast in Cleveland also.
gobills1212 Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 Good grief! Can we draft a guy 1st? How can this be answered before then?
transplantbillsfan Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 Clearly that's what McDermott is going to say... yes
Steptide Posted March 11, 2018 Author Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 7:22 AM, gobills1212 said: Good grief! Can we draft a guy 1st? How can this be answered before then? Expand How can it not? I can't think of any qb we can sign in free agency or draft that could be automatically the starter.
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 6:43 AM, Zebrastripes said: No way. Sitting allows a qb to learn the nuances of the NFL. If a guy isn't mentally ready to play the game then you're just going to destroy him not develop him by putting him into start day 1. I believe you can teach the mental aspect of the game where as you cannot teach the physical aspwct of the game. So if the rookie has all the physical tools but is struggling with reading a defensive coverage or the terminology of the offense letting him sit and learn these thing would be way more beneficial than throwing him to the wolves. I feel like this does happen to guy which just slowly destroys them over time. Expand Hopefully the Bills don't make that mistake again and pick a QB by your description will be nothing more then a career backup. In the NFL you either get it or you won't.
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 1:32 PM, Boca BIlls said: Hopefully the Bills don't make that mistake again and pick a QB by your description will be nothing more then a career backup. In the NFL you either get it or you won't. Expand Rodgers and Jimmy G. we're both lower graded qb prospects. Both of them sat and learned the nuances of the game. Look where they are at now far from a backup qb.
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) On 3/11/2018 at 1:34 PM, Zebrastripes said: Rodgers and Jimmy G. we're both lower graded qb prospects. Both of them sat and learned the nuances of the game. Look where they are at now far from a backup qb. Expand They would have been fine if they started immediately. Both were forced to be behind HoF QBs... The Bills don't have one of those. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boca BIlls
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 1:36 PM, Boca BIlls said: They would have been fine if they started immediately. Rodgers was behind HoF Favre... Expand How can you say this with such certainty?
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 1:38 PM, Zebrastripes said: How can you say this with such certainty? Expand No different then you saying sitting helped. Hell coaches try to sit the rookies but they end up getting shoved in ASAP b c sitting does nothing in reality. The only way to get better is to actually play the game, learn the speed of the game.
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 The only guy we have on the roster had one of the all time worst games as a qb ever. If there's not a competition something is extremely wrong.
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) On 3/11/2018 at 1:40 PM, Boca BIlls said: No different then you saying sitting helped. Hell coaches try to sit the rookies but they end up getting shoved in ASAP b c sitting does nothing in reality. Expand The big difference is you cant ruin a guy by letting him learn as much as he can in a back up role. You most certainly can ruin a guy by starting him prematurely. Edited March 11, 2018 by Zebrastripes 1
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 1:46 PM, Zebrastripes said: The big difference is you cant ruin a guy by letting him learn as much as he can in a back up role. You most certainly can ruin a guy by starting him prematurely. Expand A QB can only ruin himself if he was never meant to be a starting QB.
Zebrastripes Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 1:47 PM, Boca BIlls said: A QB can only ruin himself if he was never meant to be a starting QB. Expand We have to agree to disagree on this topic. 1
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 1:40 PM, Boca BIlls said: No different then you saying sitting helped. Hell coaches try to sit the rookies but they end up getting shoved in ASAP b c sitting does nothing in reality. The only way to get better is to actually play the game, learn the speed of the game. Expand Completley disagree with this. Some players need to sit and learn. A lot come from offenses that don't translate to the pros or have issues with their footwork or throwing motion. Throwing a guy in that isn't ready can ruin a player. . 1
Boca BIlls Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) On 3/11/2018 at 1:50 PM, Not at the table Karlos said: Completley disagree with this. Some players need to sit and learn. A lot come from offenses that don't translate to the pros or have issues with their footwork or throwing motion. Throwing a guy in that isn't ready can ruin a player. . Expand Will only ruin them if they were never meant to be a starter in the first place. Throughout these guys lives they hire coaches to get them ready for the NFL. By this time in their life they are either ready to face NFL or they aren't. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boca BIlls
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