macaroni Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 IMHO ... The Bills are planning on going after an established NFL QB ... Foles, Keenum, Luck, Cousins, whoever ... I have no idea who, but I'll "trust the process" My reasoning is that we just shipped off TT (a move I applaud) so that is a CLEAR signal to EVERYONE that we are going after a QB in the near future. Trying to trade up in the draft for "your guy" is a pretty risky endeavor ... aside from drafting a player is pretty much a 50% 50% chance of hitting big ... you have to find a draft partner who is willing to deal, and unless you have the #1 choice, you have to worry about your guy falling to a spot you can draft him. I think the brain trust at OBD sees the value of a bird in the hand being worth two in the bush. My bold prediction is .... We were the team that offered the Eagles the 2nd rounder for Foles ... they countered with a "no, but close ... you have to sweeten the deal a bit". This exchange prodded the Bills to expedite trading TT for a bit more "draft capital" in order to "sweeten the deal". 1
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Nick Foles is still my number 1 guy. I think he has shown, at times, do be an above average starter in this league. But I think the plan now is to move up in the top 5 of the draft. Getting a 3rd (almost a 2nd) for tyrod was absolutely huge. Move up and draft Mayfield. Love that kid. What about Fole do you like??? How does this scream Trade for me 7 games 56.6 Comp % 537 yards 5.3 YPA 5 TDs 2 INTs 5 Sacks we just moved that type of player for a 3rd
Bornafan66 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Posted March 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: How does this scream Trade for me 7 games 56.6 Comp % 537 yards 5.3 YPA 5 TDs 2 INTs Nick Foles stats Career stats Year Team CMP% YDS TD INT Rating 2017 Eagles 56.4 537 5 2 79.5 2016 Chiefs 65.5 410 3 0 105.9 2015 Rams 56.4 2,052 7 10 69.0 2014 Eagles 59.8 2,163 13 10 81.4 2013 Eagles 64.0 2,891 27 2 119.2 2012 Eagles 60.8 1,699 6 5 79.1 Career 60.1 9,752 61 29 87.4 5 Sacks tell me this is the answer in Buffalo Ha Ha Ha This is what I'm looking at. When Foles has had the opportunity in the NFL (not college) he has done well enough to trade for.
Zebrastripes Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Totally. A team facing Brady in a game like say the superbowl has no chance with a retread like foles. Ha I'm with him. Sign a vet and take best available with 21 or 22 and load this team up with talent. Blind squirrels find nuts every now and then too.
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What about Fole do you like??? How does this scream Trade for me 7 games 56.6 Comp % 537 yards 5.3 YPA 5 TDs 2 INTs 5 Sacks we just moved that type of player for a 3rd https://mobile.twitter.com/CrossingBroad/status/958186585387950080/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcbssports.cbsi.com%2Fremote.html%3F1519774160068 2
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bornafan66 said: This is what I'm looking at. When Foles has had the opportunity in the NFL (not college) he has done well enough to trade for. So alot of TT years. Except in 2013 under Chip. Again he is a Journeyman QB. Want Better Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/CrossingBroad/status/958186585387950080/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcbssports.cbsi.com%2Fremote.html%3F1519774160068 Your point with this is what????
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: So alot of TT years. Except in 2013 under Chip. Again he is a Journeyman QB. Want Better Your point with this is what???? Really? If I have to explain to you that those are high quality starter numbers, nothing like tyrods numbers, then to you I bid a good day. Good day sir
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Really? If I have to explain to you that those are high quality starter numbers, nothing like tyrods numbers, then to you I bid a good day. Good day sir 7 games 56.6 Comp % 537 yards 5.3 YPA 5 TDs 2 INTs 5 Sacks those are High Quality Starter Numbers. Really???? want TT numbers again? Edited March 10, 2018 by MAJBobby
Rico Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 Not only is trading up the right thing to do... but after all these YEARS of mediocrity at QB, I think we deserve a lot better there. Watching football is just more fun when you have a real QB. Dare to be great, McBeane!
RocCityRoller Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Another Andrew Luck post? There shouldn't even be one. He's reportedly ready to roll this season. Reich is not outing him for anything. Nor should he. Look at the Colts position. It is a total rebuild. They have the #3 pick in a deep QB class. Dumping 75 Million, and grabbing two more first rounders is a smart move when dealing low. For the Bills it's a better gamble than Cousins, Foles or a rookie. and there is a connection 2
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 7 games 56.6 Comp % 537 yards 5.3 YPA 5 TDs 2 INTs 5 Sacks those are High Quality Starter Numbers. Really???? want TT numbers again? I said good day
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I said good day Got it. You love those numbers. Point is they are not High Quality Starter numbers. He is a Journeyman Middling QB. We just traded away a Middling QB. WANT BETTER
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Another Andrew Luck post? There shouldn't even be one. He's reportedly ready to roll this season. Reich is not outing him for anything. Nor should he. ...besides with the Pack trading for Kizer, let's may a play for Rodgers instead......... 1
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Got it. You love those numbers. Point is they are not High Quality Starter numbers. He is a Journeyman Middling QB. We just traded away a Middling QB. WANT BETTER Who is better? Don’t even bring up any of these guys coming out in the draft because they’ve never even thrown a pass in the league. Did you watch foles in the playoffs? The three biggest games of his career and he absolutely lit it up. And what 7 games were your stats from? It’s easy to nitpick and pull random stats out of your ass to try to make your argument. His year in St. Louis is largely forgettable and his year in Kansas City he barely saw the field. Besides that, he’s looked pretty good in his career in Philly. Did you even open the link I posted? Those are not Tyrod Taylor numbers... 1
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Who is better? Don’t even bring up any of these guys coming out in the draft because they’ve never even thrown a pass in the league. Did you watch foles in the playoffs? The three biggest games of his career and he absolutely lit it up. And what 7 games were your stats from? It’s easy to nitpick and pull random stats out of your ass to try to make your argument. His year in St. Louis is largely forgettable and his year in Kansas City he barely saw the field. Besides that, he’s looked pretty good in his career in Philly. Did you even open the link I posted? Those are not Tyrod Taylor numbers... Sure you are better prospects (yes i can use the draft because 98% of the time that is where a team finds its long term answer) Cousins Rosen Darnold Mayfield Those 7 games are this year regular season. Not cherry picking stats. his entire Career on his three teams has been AVG at best and his best year was 2013 under Chip. That is the definition of a MIDDLING QB. We just traded that Edited March 10, 2018 by MAJBobby
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Those 7 games are this year regular season. Not cherry picking stats. his entire Career on his three teams has been AVG at best and his best year was 2013 under Chip. That is the definition of a MIDDLING QB. We just traded that He only started 3 games last year. And the last game he played one series I believe. Look at his 2nd year in Philly Or look at his 3 starts in the playoffs. Those are what really matters
MAJBobby Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: He only started 3 games last year. And the last game he played one series I believe. Look at his 2nd year in Philly Wrong played 7 last year. http://www.nfl.com/player/nickfoles/2532842/gamelogs And yes I said he had One good year with Chip Kelly in 2013. So again a Middling QB
NoSaint Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 Sooooo instead of an unproven commodity at qb you go after Keenum, savage and bridgewater for guys 3-5 on your list? foles I can at least buy as having a couple successful stints. If docs clear luck that’s different... but you put savage at the top of the rookie class in what he’s proven?
McBean Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Bornafan66 said: I just don't understand all the love for moving up in the draft to get our QB. If I'm the GM or owner I have the attitude that I'm building this team to beat the Patriots. Best team in the division, best team in the AFC, best team in the league. I don't go after an unproven commodity. That being said; I go after Foles first, if I can't get him, Andrew Luck, he dosent seem happy in Indy and they need everything. If they don't work out. I get Keenum, if that doesn't happen, I try to find a "bridge" guy. Maybe Tom Savage, Bradford, or Teddy. I draft the best DT available. You beat the Patsies with pressure right up the middle. Then I find an edge rusher. There are going to be QB's falling in the draft. You must still be drunk from last night.
JaCrispy Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Bornafan66 said: I just don't understand all the love for moving up in the draft to get our QB. If I'm the GM or owner I have the attitude that I'm building this team to beat the Patriots. Best team in the division, best team in the AFC, best team in the league. I don't go after an unproven commodity. That being said; I go after Foles first, if I can't get him, Andrew Luck, he dosent seem happy in Indy and they need everything. If they don't work out. I get Keenum, if that doesn't happen, I try to find a "bridge" guy. Maybe Tom Savage, Bradford, or Teddy. I draft the best DT available. You beat the Patsies with pressure right up the middle. Then I find an edge rusher. There are going to be QB's falling in the draft. If you don’t understand why it’s important to move up in the draft to get your franchise QB, I cannot help you. 1
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