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On 4/12/2018 at 5:01 PM, ColoradoBills said:

 

I understand where you are coming from.  I personally have tried to stay out of this QB draft talk as much as possible.

My main comments have typically been to the far extremes of the options.

I see Beane "finalizing" his QB rankings and worth (what he is willing to trade for each QB) in the next few days.

 

Come draft day I am sure he will contact all GM's concerning trade options.  He and his team will do what they can to get

who they can.  I will sure enjoy the draft this year.  Bill's definitely need a QB and it will be exciting.

 

As to your comment about staying at #12.  Beane has to be wary of Miami and others jumping so if he "over drafts" a bit I see no problem.

From the beginning I had no problem of using (at a minimum) the 2-1st's and the 3rd from the TT trade.  If Beane has to use MORE than that

I sure hope the guy he gets is worth it.

 

By the way, welcome to the board!

Although I like staying at #12 if this draft really has 6 franchise QB's, or moving up to 6,7,8 let me tell something I am hearing on our local sports radio in Bald-mor.   Flaco has been bad the last few years and also hasn't had good WR to throw to.   Sportscasters are saying that he has to turn it around this year or last year and it is time to get his replacement.  So Baltimore may be trading up as well as Miami.

15 hours ago, KingRex said:

This a QB driven league so I agree with those who advocate we need a Franchise QB to win the SB.  However, looking at reality, this is why I argue we need to step lightly and be sure we not only get the right guy but surround him with the right team to let this franchise QB lead the team to an SB win.

 

I see the argument that we wait on getting our F-QB as these.

 

1 Darnold- Great prospect, but needs another year of college football before he deserves the declaration of savior.  Too many turnovers in terms of not only INTs but fumbles.  If someone advocates trading the massive amount of resources to move up to #2 to get him make the case.  I have not seen it here yet.

 

2. Rosen- Maybe the next Peyton Manning, but testimony from even his college HC indicates Rosen might be Ryan Leaf as much as Peyton Manning.  What case do folks want to make this millennial for sure again't gonna fail.

 

3. Allen- Big mobile guy who hit some big passes at lower tier competition for Wyoming.  The big vertical ball game was unfortunately accompanied with some inaccuracy at shorter and intermediate routes that indicate as good as he is on big throws he isn't the full package.

 

4.  Mayfield- If you accept the Heisman hype the Bills will need to trade up to get him.  However, if you rank him based  on his play he should be there at @12 and not require the likely fatal move of trading away picks to move up.  Actually on the face of it Mayfield, Rudolph, et al are really second round talents who need a year of seasoning before they are ready to be the leaders and contributors we expect a francise QB to be.

 

Overall, the smart fooball move is to follow the build the TEAM FIRST and then draft someone like Big Ben to be the essential; franchise QB you need.

 

Drafting the franchise guy this year MAY happen but looks like a 1 in 4 shot at best from the available talent and even if we're smart enough to pick the right QB, my guess is he mostly spends 2018 running for his life behind an OL that does not used the squandered picks used to move up to replace our holes at C and G  not to mention holes at 2 LB spots and WR.

 

Trade down is the smart football move.  

Rudolph does everything pretty well and doesn't have warts. He might be available with a modest trade up.

On 4/12/2018 at 3:31 PM, Shaw66 said:

Sometimes I feel sorry for guys who post things like this and then get dumped on by everyone saying "that's ridiculous."

 

Well, THAT'S RIDICULOUS!

 

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, consistently puts you in the playoffs from any position except an outstanding quarterback.   Nobody.   As in N-O-B-O-D-Y.   Not Bruce Smith, not J.J. Watt, not Megatron, not Sammy Watkins (certainly not Sammy Watkins), not Troy Polamalu, not anybody.   

 

Now, if you're point is that there's nothing more to say about the QBs, I agree.   But this year, for the first time in decades, the Bills are in position to get almost anyone they want in the draft AND there are good quarterbacks to be had.   It's foolish to expect that people will stop talking about it.  

Gee, I didn't know the Browns #1 was in play. How much do you think that would cost?

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