Bag of Milk Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Most every ranking we see on the internet from Mel Kiper, McShay, Mayock, to the NFL.Com folks, etc. start looking like one big group think by the time the draft rolls around. They all are about the same. My guess is, more NFL boards look much more like Solak's, with a wide disparity from what most commonly believe. I am not endorsing Solak's rankings, though, I respect the ability to develop independent thought and be willing to try and back it up.
Green Lightning Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Love to see the draft go this way. Fat FN chance.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 8, 2018 Author Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Love to see the draft go this way. Fat FN chance. It's not a mock draft.
Green Lightning Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's not a mock draft. I know, I just said I would like to see the draft go this way. This is the writer's evaluations post combine. I just want us to have a shot at a decent quarterback. Edited March 8, 2018 by Green Lightning
Pete Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 interesting where he ranks qb's. Let's draft with our heads and not overpay
4merper4mer Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: I know, I just said I would like to see the draft go this way. This is the writer's evaluations post combine. I just want us to have a shot at a decent quarterback. And yet it says there aren't any. Maybe two. And we actually probably have a shot at one of them.
Green Lightning Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 I wonder how that guy rated DeShaun Watson and Dak Prescott? Every year these guys aren't worth drafting yet they're starting and winning. The bottom line is you're going to overpay for a quarterback.
Augie Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Who is this guy? (Serious question.) L.amar Jackson at 15 and Darnold at 36? THAT is a unique take. Rudolph at 89. Did I just miss Josh Allen? What would you give for a glimpse of the Bills draft board???
1billsfan Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Nice to see someone break away from the echo chamber and give Jackson a more realistic and honest ranking. He's not making it to the BIlls picks. Miami, Arizona or the Chargers will draft him if given the chance.
DCOrange Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Who is this guy? (Serious question.) L.amar Jackson at 15 and Darnold at 36? THAT is a unique take. Rudolph at 89. Did I just miss Josh Allen? What would you give for a glimpse of the Bills draft board??? The big thing I know him from is his charting of all the QB's passes. He breaks down how well-placed all of their throws are, broken down by different situations (clean pocket, under pressure, when they roll out and get their feet set versus when they throw on the run, etc.) He's not high on Josh Allen; basically said he's on par with Kurt Benkert as a developmental prospect. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Whoaoa. Did I miss it, or Josh Allen not in the top 100 picks?
26CornerBlitz Posted March 8, 2018 Author Posted March 8, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Whoaoa. Did I miss it, or Josh Allen not in the top 100 picks? Solak said he was ready to take heat.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: Most every ranking we see on the internet from Mel Kiper, McShay, Mayock, to the NFL.Com folks, etc. start looking like one big group think by the time the draft rolls around. They all are about the same. My guess is, more NFL boards look much more like Solak's, with a wide disparity from what most commonly believe. I am not endorsing Solak's rankings, though, I respect the ability to develop independent thought and be willing to try and back it up. Does it mean anything?
Augie Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Solak said he was ready to take heat. I’m more apt to give him props than heat. I like his boldness. I see glimpses of greatness, but I don’t see Allen as a natural thrower of the football. Can you get over that? EJ flashbacks keep me up at night....
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DCOrange said: The big thing I know him from is his charting of all the QB's passes. He breaks down how well-placed all of their throws are, broken down by different situations (clean pocket, under pressure, when they roll out and get their feet set versus when they throw on the run, etc.) He's not high on Josh Allen; basically said he's on par with Kurt Benkert as a developmental prospect. IIRC, Solak's thing is "Contextualized QBing" which is his attempt to break down QB passes by platform (set or on run), pressure, the target's place in the QB's progressions, the context (3rd and long etc). It sounds a bit too complicated and subjective to me, but the point is he's trying very hard to create an objective system. Whether it really is a better mousetrap or not, he isn't a talking head, he's capturing stuff he sees. Of course, he doesn't see the team interviews etc. Edited March 8, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: IIRC, Solak's thing is "Contextualized QBing" which is his attempt to break down QB passes by platform (set or on run), pressure, the target's place in the QB's progressions, the context (3rd and long etc). It sounds a bit too complicated and subjective to me, but the point is he's trying very hard to create an objective system. Using both these words in the same sentence is not easy!
McBean Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 He doesn’t have Allen in top 100? i immediately like this guy because he’s right, Allen is awful. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, horned dogs said: Using both these words in the same sentence is not easy! "It's complicated" is the lynchpin that makes it work It's the reason I hate total QBR. In trying to create an system that evaluates the impact of down and distance and all that objective jazz, they created a complicated monster that has all kinds of subjective evaluations built into it. I'm not saying Solak's CQ thing is that bad, but when I read his explanation I can see total QBR from there. 1
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