baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 if We can get him without giving up a first I am into it. Maybe 2 this year and 3 next. He is young enough that he can be the guy for the next 5 years if his play is acceptable.
Boatdrinks Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Put the pressure on? Please! The Eagles would be dumb to trade away their insurance policy against Foles not being ready to start the season. They aren't screwing him out of anything. He'll be totally free in 2019. Beyond that their asking price of more than a 1st and a 4th is telling teams they don't really want to trade him as I posted in the other thread. He's not worth giving up multiple draft assets, so if he's the plan it's a crappy one. Maybe. I'm not convinced they let him walk for nothing in 2019 when he could fetch an asset right now. Wentz was injured late in the season, and that's a concern. Wouldn't be shocked if Foles is traded at the deadline though a la Garrapolo.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Put the pressure on? Please! The Eagles would be dumb to trade away their insurance policy against Foles not being ready to start the season. They aren't screwing him out of anything. He'll be totally free in 2019. Beyond that their asking price of more than a 1st and a 4th is telling teams they don't really want to trade him as I posted in the other thread. He's not worth giving up multiple draft assets, so if he's the plan it's a crappy one. of course they will ask for the moon to start. in the end we will see if they want to keep him as a back for 1 year vs the draft capitol they get for him now. They have a lot of talent walking out the door this off season that they will need to replace with cheap labor
MrEpsYtown Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) If they don't trade him, they risk losing him for nothing in 2019. He has a strange provision that his contract voids in 2019 if he is on the Eagles roster. The more I think about it, the more I'm ok with this move. Not for a 1 and 4, but I think I'd be willing to give a 2. He seems like a great fit and the contract is a 5 year deal that is pennies, allowing the team to upgrade elsewhere. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nick-foles-contract-would-make-him-a-free-agent-if-hes-on-the-eagles-in-february-2019/ My gut is that he winds up in Arizona if they can't get Cousins. Edited March 7, 2018 by MrEpsYtown 2
whatdrought Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Another bridge QB who got hot at the perfect time, He was thrown out of L.A. and KC (He didn't even see the field in KC). Taylor isn't a good QB so you can name quite a few QB's who are better, Foles is only a marginal upgrade imo, he will disappoint as soon as he's named starter like he has up until the playoff run for the Eagles. The argument could be made that L.A. was a dumpster fire (and evidence definitely supports that) that sucked the soul of QB's. He didn't see the field in KC because they had a good starter, and he was signed to be a backup (and did not get a chance to start anywhere else because of the perception he received due to his reputation from the dumpster fire). He was let go from KC because they were planning on drafting a guy and wanted room for the rook to be the backup.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: If they don't trade him, they risk losing him for nothing in 2019. He has a strange provision that his contract voids in 2019 if he is on the Eagles roster. The more I think about it, the more I'm ok with this move. Not for a 1 and 4, but I think I'd be willing to give a 2. He seems like a great fit and the co tract is a 5 year deal that is pennies, allowing tetras to upgrade elsewhere. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nick-foles-contract-would-make-him-a-free-agent-if-hes-on-the-eagles-in-february-2019/ Cheap QB insurance on a team trying to win Super Bowls is worth more than a #2 pick that they reportedly already turned down.
JoeF Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 CB26 you are dead on. Nate Sudfeld is the key here. They were ready to bench Foles for him if Foles was having a bad playoff game http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2752030-doug-pederson-doesnt-rule-out-benching-nick-foles-for-nate-sudfeld-in-playoffs https://insidetheiggles.com/2018/02/28/philadelphia-eagles-have-a-ton-of-confidence-in-nate-sudfeld/
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Cheap QB insurance on a team trying to win Super Bowls is worth more than a #2 pick that they reportedly already turned down. it is ? they can sign a Matt moore type and get the number 2 plus a mid round pick
HumbleAndHungry Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Before trading for Foles please refer to the Joe Flacco story
26CornerBlitz Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, JoeF said: CB26 you are dead on. Nate Sudfeld is the key here. They were ready to bench Foles for him if Foles was having a bad playoff game http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2752030-doug-pederson-doesnt-rule-out-benching-nick-foles-for-nate-sudfeld-in-playoffs https://insidetheiggles.com/2018/02/28/philadelphia-eagles-have-a-ton-of-confidence-in-nate-sudfeld/ That's because Foles was stinking it up during the regular season before the playoffs began. No more Fool's Gold retreads! 1
1st&ten Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 His value is probably at it's peak right now, I think it might decrease in the next couple of months. I hope they don't give up a 1st round pick for him.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's because Foles was stinking it up during the regular season before the playoffs began. No more Fool's Gold retreads! he was not playing well until the adjusted the offense for him. once they adjusted he took off. He has an all time great stretch under chip Kelly. He is better the your Average qb and miles better than Taylor. Risking a 2nd pick is fine, sending a Bradford type package is too rich for me
simool Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 No way Beane is giving up a 1st and a 4th plus... Just do not see that happening. A trade up in the draft for a QB is more likely, and even that is a long shot IMO.
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: The argument could be made that L.A. was a dumpster fire (and evidence definitely supports that) that sucked the soul of QB's. He didn't see the field in KC because they had a good starter, and he was signed to be a backup (and did not get a chance to start anywhere else because of the perception he received due to his reputation from the dumpster fire). He was let go from KC because they were planning on drafting a guy and wanted room for the rook to be the backup. 2nd year QB Jared Goff had no problem throwing to the dumpster fire, it was virtually the same team with Watkins inserted was it not? And isn't the QB supposed to make the WR around him better not the other way around? And KC had such a great starter in Alex Smith that they shipped him off to Washington in favor of a guy who had 1 career start. My guess is if they would have saw anything in Foles as a potential starter they would have kept him in KC regardless of how well Smith was playing, Reid knows how to handle the situation. Foles looked like the next great QB in the playoffs, unfortunately from game to game that isn't the Foles you'll be getting imo.
Big Turk Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 I love Foles clutch ability in the playoffs...doesnt matter what seed we are just get him there and he will play lights out
26CornerBlitz Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: he was not playing well until the adjusted the offense for him. once they adjusted he took off. He has an all time great stretch under chip Kelly. He is better the your Average qb and miles better than Taylor. Risking a 2nd pick is fine, sending a Bradford type package is too rich for me Is he bringing the coaching staff and personnel with him to the Bills? Nope. He's already shown what kind of QB he is outside of a Chip Kelly styled offense that features RPOs with a strong supporting cast and it hasn't been very good. No thanks for me. I want a QB who can elevate a team that's around him and that's not the guy under discussion. Edited March 7, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1
SouthNYfan Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Well, NO team is in at that price imo. The Eagles can ask all they want, but he won't fetch a first imo. That's the point. The eagles love him on a cheap backup contract so they don't have to rush Wentz back. They are asking more than he is worth, by a lot, and if somebody bites, they got king's ransom for somebody they didn't have long term plans for anyway. If nobody bites, they'll be content having a backup QB who is better than like 30-40% of the starters out there, on a cheap contract. They are negotiating/selling from a position of power, there is no easy way to get foles away from them, you're going to pay a super-premium for him. 21 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Put the pressure on? Please! The Eagles would be dumb to trade away their insurance policy against Foles not being ready to start the season. They aren't screwing him out of anything. He'll be totally free in 2019. Beyond that their asking price of more than a 1st and a 4th is telling teams they don't really want to trade him as I posted in the other thread. He's not worth giving up multiple draft assets, so if he's the plan it's a crappy one. Exactly, like I said above, they don't need to, or want to trade him, but they will dangle him and see if some dipshit*t GM who is extra thirsty takes the bait. If not? They are sitting pretty with him on the bench.
BrooklynBills Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 I'd do a 19 1st. Keep all your picks this year and add a starting QB? I could get behind that. That 19 1st is gone anyway if we want to trade up for one the top QBs
Tsaikotic Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 if the Eagles really want 2 1sts or something close then they better sit Wentz and play Foles as starter next season...if Foles looks as good next season as he was in the last 5 games of 2017 then they might get it...but I cant give a team that much for a qb that hasnt proved to be consistent in winning...besides that, you dont bench a QB that just won you the SB and is worth as much as they want for him
wppete Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 I like Foles. But not for a First round pick. Ideally for a 2nd and a 5th. 1
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