smuvtalker Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Max Fischer said: "Done with this team?" Yeah, Ok. First, why would BB ever tell anyone what he plans to do? Two, IF the Bills don't move, it's likely because no team wanted to trade OR the price was too high. Three, you clearly have player(s) you want. What are you willing to give up? For me, there isn't a player that it's worth mortgaging a truck load of picks. I respectfully beg to differ, in this draft, there are two: Baker Mayfield, and Josh Rosen. I'm completely comfortable with McBeane giving away the proverbial farm(except for a Ditka-Ricky Williams draft pick raping)for either of those two. We already know it's going to cost an arm and a leg.. 1
nucci Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Augie said: If he said it, it has to be true. well, it is on the internet so...
klos63 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Zebrastripes said: There is zero chance any gm in the NFL is going to come out and tell anyone what his draft strategy is. That would just be plain stupid and drive the price up on a trade up. While I agree that no GM would ever give up any draft strategy, there is a price to move in the top 5 or so, and saying it now or later probably won't change that price. 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, atomicpwrd said: I honestly believe that is the truth as of right now...for several reasons: 1. I have heard this from two separate sources 2. He is on record saying he likes his draft picks 3. We have a TON of holes to fill 4. He is also on record saying that price to move up to grab one of the top few qbs is prohibitive. I expect them to be smart about it and grab a prospect like Rudolph or Jackson with one of the first round picks. You have to remember there is a ton of depth in this QB class there are some really good QBs that were not drafted in the 5 picks. Maybe he likes one of the "lesser" QBs. That said...if one of them falls far enough to where it makes sense to move up, then I would think he would do it. I am fine with this strategy...a lot of people want the team to sell out to grab a great QB, but I don't think is a great strategy...I know QB is extremely important, but if you don't have the surrounding cast, what good is it. A QB can elevate your team, but just how much? Especially a rookie. What has Luck done for the crappy Colts team? I think they are taking a very measured approach to the draft, which is what I think is the best way to go about business. Welcome to the board Doug! We loved this strategy of yours, Buddys, Russ's & Marv's... it worked out well for us - we made the playoffs this year finally! Edited March 7, 2018 by Reed83HOF 1 1
klos63 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, nucci said: well, it is on the internet so... the internet? Is that thing still around? 1 1
Augie Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, nucci said: well, it is on the internet so... What additional proof is needed??? 1
transplantbillsfan Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Only acquiring "QB's" like EJ and Taylor got Whaley fired. The guy SUCKED when it came to addressing the QB position. Okay, but he lasted 4 years, not 2, unlike what Coach Tuesday said. Almost zero percent chance Beane is fired after this season.
BringBackOrton Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Okay, but he lasted 4 years, not 2, unlike what Coach Tuesday said. Almost zero percent chance Beane is fired after this season. I think he meant 2 more years. I agree though. Gotta give Beane at least 3-4. Maybe even 6, tbh. 1
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 On the flip side, if someone wants to trade back into the first, and offers us a nice package for one of our first rounders Beane isn't going to take it? I can see Beane being more focused on what he can control oppose to focusing on coulda/shoulda/woulda.
BuffaloRush Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 This is odd considering he did say at the combine that he would consider “all options” to explore a trade up. I think there quite a bit of posturing with this statement, though Beane has been a straight shooter so far.
ndirish1978 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 This quote means less than nothing. He already said they can't come to a decision about QBs without spending a lot of time getting to know them, they haven't had all that much contact with the kids to date, hence they haven't set their draft board. Of course he has no intent at this moment of moving up, he doesn't even know who he wants to draft. Once that assessment has taken place the next step is determining where the player is likely to be drafted and trying to move up ahead of that spot to get them if necessary.
jimmy10 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, klos63 said: While I agree that no GM would ever give up any draft strategy, there is a price to move in the top 5 or so, and saying it now or later probably won't change that price. You don’t think Beane coming out and publicly saying, “Yup, we’re moving into the top 5, no matter what” will have any bearing on what teams then ask from him? You think if he put his neck out there like that, teams would reward him for his honesty and not give him a jobbing to end all jobbings? ok.
simool Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 This is clickbait and means nada as a couple of people have pointed out. However I do believe we are drafting where we are, and I have zero problems with it. For the negative Nancy's saying it will never happen like this or his job depends on it.... This method of thinking is likely why you are continually disappointed. You have no idea what was discussed between the Pegula's and Beane. He is a smart guy and I would be surprised if this topic was not broached prior to him signing on. I also have no problems if he does trade up. It is his call. So far I like what I have seen from him and look forward to seeing what the future holds for this team in regards to the decisions he gets to make.
klos63 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: You don’t think Beane coming out and publicly saying, “Yup, we’re moving into the top 5, no matter what” will have any bearing on what teams then ask from him? You think if he put his neck out there like that, teams would reward him for his honesty and not give him a jobbing to end all jobbings? ok. If he wants to move up, he has to tell those GM's, so there really isn't a big secret is there? If he wants to move up, I'm sure he's contacted those GM's already to get basic parameters to start discussions. 16 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: You don’t think Beane coming out and publicly saying, “Yup, we’re moving into the top 5, no matter what” will have any bearing on what teams then ask from him? You think if he put his neck out there like that, teams would reward him for his honesty and not give him a jobbing to end all jobbings? ok. and no GM would ever say -" no matter what" 1
nucci Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: You don’t think Beane coming out and publicly saying, “Yup, we’re moving into the top 5, no matter what” will have any bearing on what teams then ask from him? You think if he put his neck out there like that, teams would reward him for his honesty and not give him a jobbing to end all jobbings? ok. No, it won't. As others have said, there are parameters to move in to top 5.....
BillsFan4 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Fan boy '92 said: No one said round 6. Most franchise quarterbacks in the league were not top 5 or even top 10 picks. Carr was a second. Seattle did ok. Alex Smith got picked first while Aaron Rodgers slid to 24. How did that work out? Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Russel Wilson, Joe Flacco, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo, Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton, and that is only looking at current QBs.... That's about 1/3 of NFL teams who found their current starter in the late 1st or later the draft. The highest pick out of the QBs I listed was Flacco at #18. 1
Freddie's Dead Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 This just in, water is wet, ice is slippery, film at 11.
Chicken Boo Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Translation: "I have every intent to do both." 1
Kelly101 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 It's the billsy way, new slogan will be "Only 16 years until the playoffs again guys !" get ready for a wide receiver and a corner again, and tt. more mclapping and more conservative ball. Next time we make the playoffs, we will be shooting for more than 3. clap clap clap
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