DJB Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Check out Daniel Jeremiah 2nd mock post combine. 21. Rashad Evans 22. Lamar Jackson - " I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills packaged some picks to move up for one of the other quarterbacks, but if they sit still I could see them building an offence around Jackson skill set. Jeremiah is extremely connected. He's right down on the floor rubbing shoulders with our very own Bills management and scouts. Obviously many of us are hoping this happens but to hear from someone actually in the know is very positive . (Sorry I don't know how to embed stuff and make it look all nice and clean, if someone could do that it would be great ! ) Edited March 6, 2018 by DJB Title 1 1
The Jokeman Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 I respect Jeremiah as a talent evaluator yet disagree with his thoughts regarding Jackson, as to me Jackson is a taller version of Tyrod which to me not a significant improvement. 3
26CornerBlitz Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, The Jokeman said: I respect Jeremiah as a talent evaluator yet disagree with his thoughts regarding Jackson, as to me Jackson is a taller version of Tyrod which to me not a significant improvement. Please explain how this is the case. 8 4
DJB Posted March 6, 2018 Author Posted March 6, 2018 Thanks CornerBlitz for embedding that stuff for me!!!
26CornerBlitz Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, DJB said: Thanks CornerBlitz for embedding that stuff for me!!! No problemo. I actually posted it earlier today in the running mock draft thread. 1
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Please explain how this is the case. Seriously. The “Lamar Jackson is Tyrod 2.0” argument is just dumb. Lazy, ignorant assessment, IMO. 12 2
The Jokeman Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Please explain how this is the case. The case is both Jackson and Tyrod are exceptional athletes. As a result I doubt that they've never had to learn to fully read defenses as they can use their legs to escape pressure and make plays with their legs which is a highly over rated stat. I mean if look at Tyrod's rushing numbers last year, he had 427 yards rushing which equates to 28.46 yards per game played which to me isn't game changing ability no matter how good his total yard were compared to the rest of the league's QBs. I mean tag that 28.46 yards rushing per game, are we really going to say those yards are what put as at 9-7 last year? 1
Kirby Jackson Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Please explain how this is the case. They are black and run all of the time. Same guy... Also, they can’t read defenses or process information. Jackson is a combination of Tyrod, Vick, Watson, Leftwich, Doug Williams, Jameis, David Garrard and 1/2 of Russell Wilson (the half that runs all of the time). Edited March 6, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 2 9 1
26CornerBlitz Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: The case is both Jackson and Tyrod are exceptional athletes. As a result I doubt that they've never had to learn to fully read defenses as they can use their legs to escape pressure and make plays with their legs which is a highly over rated stat. I mean if look at Tyrod's rushing numbers last year, he had 427 yards rushing which equates to 28.46 yards per game played which to me isn't game changing ability no matter how good his total yard were compared to the rest of the league's QBs. I mean tag that 28.46 yards rushing per game, are we really going to say those yards are what put as at 9-7 last year? This tells me that you are not aware of the pro style offense that Jackson played in at Louisville under Bobby Petrino that features NFL level route combinations that also requires the QB to read defenses and hang in the pocket to make throws. There's no way you watched him play and can honestly come to this conclusion. Edited March 7, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 6 2
Utah John Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 So it sounds to me that Jackson is combination of Tyrod Taylor and a QB. That could be a really good combination. Taylor's running last year was held down by the OC and that was a shame. There were a lot of first downs there for the taking but TT had been coached not to run for them, and ended up not completing a pass instead. In 2016, he took those runs and kept drives alive. But, regardless of his running, he just couldn't throw receivers open. Last year he didn't have any good receivers but in 2016 he had Watson and Woods so no excuses there. If you can take Taylor's running skills and add the things an NFL QB is supposed to do, you've got something special. This is how I read Lamar Jackson. He could be the guy we need, particularly if we don't need to sell the farm to get him.
The Jokeman Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This tells me that you are not aware of the pro style offense that Jackson played in at Louisville under Bobby Petrino that features NFL level route combinations that require the QB to read defenses and hang in the pocket to make throws. There's no way you watched him play and can honestly come to this conclusion. Yet at the same time the kid has a less than 60% completion percentage and his rushing numbers are off the charts, if he did this in college no doubt he did the same in high school and pop warner etc. He was the 12th ranked duel threat QB entering college. Stuff like this scares me as makes me worry that they need to learn to change from a running QB to a QB that can run (in my opinion two vastly different things). 1
BigBuff423 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I respect Jeremiah as a talent evaluator yet disagree with his thoughts regarding Jackson, as to me Jackson is a taller version of Tyrod which to me not a significant improvement. I’m sorry but Jackson and Tyrod are almost nothing alike. Jackson is already the far superior QB. 2 1
The Jokeman Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I’m sorry but Jackson and Tyrod are almost nothing alike. Jackson is already the far superior QB. Which means he might be another Vick, which to me still not a good QB. 1
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This tells me that you are not aware of the pro style offense that Jackson played in at Louisville under Bobby Petrino that features NFL level route combinations that require the QB to read defenses and hang in the pocket to make throws. There's no way you watched him play and can honestly come to this conclusion. Happens to be the same pro style we are supposed to be implementing here as well. Kinda gives the kid a leg up if you ask me. 1
The Jokeman Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: They are black and run all of the time. Same guy... Also, they can’t read defenses or process information. Jackson is a combination of Tyrod, Vick, Watson, Leftwich, Doug Williams, Jameis, David Garrard and 1/2 of Russell Wilson (the half that runs all of the time). Na more like Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Frank Tarkenton, Flutie in 2000 and the list could continue. Edited March 7, 2018 by The Jokeman 1
Kirby Jackson Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Na more like Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Frank Tarkenton, Flutie in 2000 and the list could continue. If you think that he plays anything like Tim Tebow you’ve probably never seen him play. Jackson has an elite arm (that it is inconsistent). Tebow throws like a blind guy with no arms. 2 4
Bag of Milk Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Taking Lamar Jackson is a no brainer. He is an electrifying playmaker. With the other first, as much as I do like the pick of Evans- Jeremiah still has Ridley on the board, it would be hard not to snap him up. Ridley has legitimate number 1 WR abilty and to lock up your number 1 WR at a rookie contract rate for at least 5 years is sweet. 3
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