Tiberius Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Imagine that! https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/3/6/17077330/trump-regulatory-agenda-omb Even the Trump administration thinks so OMB gathered data and analysis on “major” federal regulations (those with $100 million or more in economic impact) between 2006 and 2016, a period that includes all of Obama’s administration, stopping just short of Trump’s. The final tally, reported in 2001 dollars: Aggregate benefits: $219 to $695 billion Aggregate costs: $59 to $88 billion By even the most conservative estimate, the benefits of Obama’s regulations wildly outweighed the costs. According to OMB — and to the federal agencies upon whose data OMB mostly relied — the core of the Trumpian case against Obama regulations, arguably the organizing principle of Trump’s administration, is false. Environmental regulations have the highest costs and highest benefits At least since Reagan, conservatives have had particular and growing hostility toward environmental regulations. This has proven a source of great anguish to (older) environmentalists, who lament that such regulations used to be bipartisan. But the right-wing turn against environmental rules is no great mystery. The OMB report reveals the core reason: Of all the regulations passed from 2006 to 2016, it is environmental regulations, specifically air pollution regulations, that had both the highest costs and the highest benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Maybe rolling back regulations without second thought isn't such a good idea after all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, garybusey said: Maybe rolling back regulations without second thought isn't such a good idea after all Unless you are trying to use right wing idiots to get power so you can turn around and take away their health care, clean air and water and fair elections 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: Unless you are trying to use right wing idiots to get power so you can turn around and take away their health care, clean air and water and fair elections Great post! I might start a thread just for your stashes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 You two are so beholding to Richard Nixon for creating the EPA then, aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 This is incredibly dumb. Anyone citing "data" which "pinpoints" a nebulous figure somewhere in between $219b and $695b is a useless knob. Anyone citing a direct knowledge gap that wide as evidentiary should be summarily fired. $219b is closer to negative $100b than it is to $695b, and to make matters worse, doesn't even consider factoring in opportunity cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: This is incredibly dumb. Anyone citing "data" which "pinpoints" a nebulous figure somewhere in between $219b and $695b is a useless knob. Anyone citing a direct knowledge gap that wide as evidentiary should be summarily fired. $219b is closer to negative $100b than it is to $695b, and to make matters worse, doesn't even consider factoring in opportunity cost. Spoilsport ! C'mon.............he started a new thread and everything....................why did you have to "clutter it up" with common sense ?? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Spoilsport ! C'mon.............he started a new thread and everything....................why did you have to "clutter it up" with common sense ?? Obfuscation with facts and details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, B-Man said: Spoilsport ! C'mon.............he started a new thread and everything....................why did you have to "clutter it up" with common sense ?? . Nonsense, not common sense. He's basically arguing that there is too much clean air. He is doing his best D.C.-D-Bag impression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The environmentalists are the !@#$s who allowed Obama through wotus to take over more land in this country than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: The environmentalists are the !@#$s who allowed Obama through wotus to take over more land in this country than anyone else. More than Lincoln took? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: More than Lincoln took? Lincoln's was a war crime Obama's was a theft and inconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Not responding to threads started by gatorman benefits Americans, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Not responding to threads started by gatorman benefits Americans, too. You nincompoop. You just did. Why do you hate America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Not responding to threads started by gatorman benefits Americans, too. you know who never responded to gatorman posts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: This is incredibly dumb. Anyone citing "data" which "pinpoints" a nebulous figure somewhere in between $219b and $695b is a useless knob. Anyone citing a direct knowledge gap that wide as evidentiary should be summarily fired. $219b is closer to negative $100b than it is to $695b, and to make matters worse, doesn't even consider factoring in opportunity cost. He's on to you TYTT ! Pointing out the obvious flaws in his beloved "narrative confirming article , is the same as arguing that there is too much clean air. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, B-Man said: i just snorted CocaCola out my nose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: This is incredibly dumb. Anyone citing "data" which "pinpoints" a nebulous figure somewhere in between $219b and $695b is a useless knob. Anyone citing a direct knowledge gap that wide as evidentiary should be summarily fired. $219b is closer to negative $100b than it is to $695b, and to make matters worse, doesn't even consider factoring in opportunity cost. Whose opportunity costs? The victims of air pollution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: i just snorted CocaCola out my nose Coke goes in your nose, you idiot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I don't understand the blanket argument against environmental regulations. In a specific case if a regulation is onerous or doesn't make sense fine make the case to gut it. But to think that rules designed to protect the place where we live from being polluted are inherently bad because some giant corporation can't exploit that land for short-term economic gain is beyond my comprehension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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