jrober38 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Makes sense. Foles plus two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd would be the makings of a pretty good team.
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, H2o said: Aaaaand they will shoot themselves in the foot doing it. Take the highest you can get, but don't be delusional about what you actually have. He's a journeyman QB who got hot at the right time. Good for Foles, but I hope we don't overpay for him. agreed. I don't want to overpay in the Draft either, but we shall see.
Socal-805 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: No. That would mean that the Bills would not be using a 1st on a QB in the draft, ans I would much rather take a shot on a QB in the draft than give up a 1st for Foles. To be perfectly honest, I'm not even that crazy about the idea of giving up a 2nd for him. Again, my worry is if they gave up a 2nd for Foles it might mean that there is less of a chance that they go QB in the 1st. Maybe one would have nothing to do with the other though, I don't know. I guess Im not convinced that Foles will be a successful QB on another team. And As I've said in other threads, I don't know that he is really much more than a bridge QB anyway. I am more ore than ok with the Bills acquiring him, but a 2nd is the absolute most I would pay and im not even crazy about that. ... But He may be a BRIDGE QB who can win a couple playoff games?? We all saw what TYrod did in the playoffs.
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: he just signed a 4 year deal. it is not like he is going to retire anytime soon I saw this trade and smiled at the Folly of it. Those guys are distinctly idiots. he will never make it four years.
Socal-805 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Is IB the evil twin of Dunkirk Don? No... You might be thinking of constipated Carl.
Don't stop billievein Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Don’t have to over think this. 1. Is he better than Tyrod? I would say yes. 2. Does he fit the mold the bills are looking for? I would say yes. 3. Can he make the throws that are needed to be successful? Yes 4. Has he won a Super Bowl? Check! In all honesty I really want one of the top guys in the draft but the fact is we are not in a good position this year to get one of them regardless of the draft picks we have. We can only trade up if another team is willing to do so and I don’t see it happening. If Barkley goes first overall like they are speculating, we are beyond screwed. 1
ColoradoBills Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Socal-805 said: ... But He may be a BRIDGE QB who can win a couple playoff games?? We all saw what TYrod did in the playoffs. True. I got to admit I am bias on Foles. I wanted him in 2016 when he went to KC for 1.75 million. As a rookie he came in after Vick went down. Philly was bad for the 2nd year and everyone knew Reid was gone after the season. Foles went 1-5 but played pretty good for a rookie. Philly went 4-12 and Reid was fired. If you take away Foles rookie season his record is 21-12. That's not counting his playoff games we just seen him in. Those numbers include his stint with the hapless Rams (4-7).
Doc Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 I don't know much about IB, but this is pretty much what I said in the other thread so I believe him. Offer a 2nd, sit and wait, and sweeten it with another later pick, or even toss them 21 or 22.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Me too. I want the Bills to go up and get Rosen, or if not him Darnold/Mayfield. If it came down to Foles for a 2nd or Rudolph in the 2nd, I honestly don't know which I'd pick. But I think I'd lean towards Rudolph. Just comparing college stats (since we can't compare NFL stats...), Rudolph's seem quite superior... https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/mason-rudolph-1.html https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nick-foles-1.html There is more of that unknown factor with Rudolph obviously. I feel like at 29 Foles probably is what he is at this point. Rudolph has the potential to be better, or worse. If Beane vets him and feels he has the potential to be better, then I'd rather take the gamble on Rudolph reaching that higher ceiling. Plus weve played around round with other teams backups long enough. Im of the thinking that it's long past time to draft and develop our own. Not a big fan of Rudolph as I think he has a low ceiling because of a lack of elite arm talent, was trained in a Mickey Mouse system, and Big 12 Defenses . I could be wrong of course, but I prefer Foles who has done it at the highest level.
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: they should regardless. should not affect them getting their guy. If the trade to Philly would sincerely limit Bills ability to stretch out ? have to say no to Foles. But as far as Vet QBs He is my pick and i will be happy if he becomes a Bill. Methinks you guys who doubt his current ability to run an Offense and make good decisions is flawed. imho 3rd he had a great 2013 and a really good 3 game stretch in the playoffs. The other 5 years he was very, very average....34 TDs, 27INTs. Heck he has only cracked 60% once in the last four years for completion percentage. What has he been doing the last 5 years? I understand he had a great playoff, but so didn't Flacco. This is no where near a sure thing if we get him.
Roundybout Posted March 6, 2018 Author Posted March 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Any word from BuffaloFanatics? Him, SaviorPeterman, Dunkirk Don and IB are all at a high level business meeting. 1 3
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: they could have traded a 2 and stuff and got Alex Smith Don't forget the difference in Cap Hit ..has to be something like 15M
Cripple Creek Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, McBean said: I’m just not sold on Nick Foles. I think it was a fluke and more coaching than him. So in your opinion coaching trumps talent? I'm not sure why folks want to either minimize the achievements of certain players while others are continually pumping them up. Anyhoo...for me...it's either he or Keenum. Cousins isn't going to happen and it will take a king's ransom to move up into the top 10 of the draft.
H2o Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Him, SaviorPeterman, Dunkirk Don and IB are all at a high level business meeting. "We" are busy shoveling to level out what will be the parking lot of the new stadium in BFNY. 1
Jay_Fixit Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Trying to remember if I’ve ever seen this clown ever get anything right.. Nope. He’s still Incarcerated Bob.
Green Lightning Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: His Playoff run has Flacco written all over it. 22 wins in 6 years, very average stats minus the one good year. Grab the QB they want in the draft and be done with it. This would seem like settling. This. Let's trade up and draft us a QB.
BuffaloRush Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Does anyone even know who Incarcerated Bob is? I noticed that he isn't verified on Twitter LOL
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 After a couple more you can add Bills Fanatics to the list 29 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Him, SaviorPeterman, Dunkirk Don and IB are all at a high level business meeting.
sven233 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Look....I have followed this guy on Twitter for years. What I have learned is that like many so-called insiders, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. However, I will say that I have seen him nail more than one story he has put out. Now, don't ask me to sight examples because I can't remember everything, but I know there have been occasions I just had to shake my head and give the guy some credit. He has hit on some things at least, unlike SaviorPeterman, Dunkirk Don, or many others on here that have claimed to have "sources deep within." That said, he definitely misses a bunch as well. But for some to come on here and say he has never been right is wrong. He has been right in the past on several things, but as I said, he has a ton of misses as well. So, I would take this "report" with a grain of salt as always. That said, it's something for people to talk about because the Draft is way too far away to be sitting here talking about the same things over and over again. Edited March 6, 2018 by sven233
BillsFan4 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: I don't feel they are exclusive. Bills might be looking to the guy who drops out of the top ten picks. Ideally they do both !! I'd be totally good with them giving up a 2nd for Foles and still drafting a rookie high in the draft. The only thing id worry about in that scenario is that it may make it harder to re-sign Foles (if he had a good season and the Bills wanted him back). There's always the franchise tag in that scenario though. But I wouldn't really want to give up a 2nd for Foles and have the Bills think they could punt on drafting a QB because of it.
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