LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, McBean said: I’m just not sold on Nick Foles. I think it was a fluke and more coaching than him. His Playoff run has Flacco written all over it. 22 wins in 6 years, very average stats minus the one good year. Grab the QB they want in the draft and be done with it. This would seem like settling.
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFan4 said: No. That would mean that the Bills would not be using a 1st on a QB in the draft, ans I would much rather take a shot on a QB in the draft than give up a 1st for Foles. To be perfectly honest, I'm not even that crazy about the idea of giving up a 2nd for him. Again, my worry is if they gave up a 2nd for Foles it might mean that there is less of a chance that they go QB in the 1st. Maybe one would have nothing to do with the other though, I don't know. I guess Im not convinced that Foles will be a successful QB on another team. And As I've said in other threads, I don't see him as much more than a bridge QB anyway. I don't feel they are exclusive. Bills might be looking to the guy who drops out of the top ten picks. Ideally they do both !! 1
Iamkrgr Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Foles isn't that good imo. Not worth a 1st or 2nd. This guy got hot at the right time with an incredibly deep football team. The Eagles coaching staff deserves a lot of the credit for that superbowl run. 4 1
Don’t be THAT guy! Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Was it Foles or was it the play calling. That being said, Foles called the “Philly Special.”
Chilly Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) A second-rounder for Foles feels dead on to me from a buyer's point of view. These are the scenarios I see for Foles: 1.) We re-sign him immediately, he's everything we hope for, and while awesome, our cap structure has instantly become the same as teams with Star QBs. 2.) We re-sign him immediately, he doesn't repeat last season, and our cap is totally screwed for a few years. 3.) We trade for him, start him, he's awesome, and now we risk him being a 1-year rental or having to franchise him and our cap structure is again the same as teams with Star QBs. 4.) We trade for him, start him, he sucks and we let him go, losing our compensation for nothing. That's a lot of risk for the buyer to take on. Compare that to one of the potential 6 first-round options at QB, where they are either awful and you let them go, or solid and cost-controlled for 5 years to use the $$$$ to build the team around them. Plus, Foles will give you 5-8 years, while a first-round QB could potentially give you 10-15. I get that Foles had a great playoff year, but he hasn't exactly proven it outside of that situation and I'd rather take my shot on a rookie unless the price is right on Foles. If I was the Eagles, I'd probably just keep him over a 2nd rounder, so I'm not sure a deal will realistically get done. Edited March 6, 2018 by Chilly 1
Steptide Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 If the bills were to get him, I would think he's a bridge qb. Still think the bills would draft a qb in 1st round
KollegeStudnet Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 As much as I say the Bills are the team, I strongly consider this was leaked from the Eagles to get the bidding war going. I honestly wouldn't mind a Super Bowl MVP, who has ties to Shady and McDermott. Still think they really want a QB that is drafted. But, this could be our guy. Eagles need cap space and picks. Bills could help them.
ganesh Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Iamkrgr said: Foles isn't that good imo. Not worth a 1st or 2nd. This guy got hot at the right time with an incredibly deep football team. The Eagles coaching staff deserves a lot of the credit for that superbowl run. And him too...Yoy don't become super bowl MVP just by good coaching. The guy played lights out against the best dynasty in Football. 2
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: If the bills were to get him, I would think he's a bridge qb. Still think the bills would draft a qb in 1st round they should regardless. should not affect them getting their guy. If the trade to Philly would sincerely limit Bills ability to stretch out ? have to say no to Foles. But as far as Vet QBs He is my pick and i will be happy if he becomes a Bill. Methinks you guys who doubt his current ability to run an Offense and make good decisions is flawed. imho 1
Logic Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 It's amazing to me that IncarceratedBob is even KIND OF still a thing. He is so clearly, obviously, without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt a total fraud. It's not even a question.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 they could have traded a 2 and stuff and got Alex Smith
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: they could have traded a 2 and stuff and got Alex Smith How old is Alex again ?
Socal-805 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: The next time I believe anything incontinent Bob says would be the first time. Oh MY JEEZ!!!! I just about choked on my Wheaties!!! 1
ColoradoBills Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: How old is Alex again ? 33
H2o Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Even if this were true, the Eagles will want a lot more than a 2nd round pick for Foles. The Eagles hold all the cards in this situation. They will command a king's ransom for Foles. Aaaaand they will shoot themselves in the foot doing it. Take the highest you can get, but don't be delusional about what you actually have. He's a journeyman QB who got hot at the right time. Good for Foles, but I hope we don't overpay for him.
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: 33 Foles does not have that Mileage on his body. I respect Smith and what he does.
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: How old is Alex again ? he just signed a 4 year deal. it is not like he is going to retire anytime soon
BillsFan4 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 32 minutes ago, horned dogs said: I'm more in favor of going up to get Rosen. But, If that doesn't work I think the idea of Foles instead of say Rudolph is intriguing. Me too. I want the Bills to go up and get Rosen, or if not him Darnold/Mayfield. If it came down to Foles for a 2nd or Rudolph in the 2nd, I honestly don't know which I'd pick. But I think I'd lean towards Rudolph. Just comparing college stats (since we can't compare NFL stats...), Rudolph's seem quite superior... https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/mason-rudolph-1.html https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/nick-foles-1.html There is more of that unknown factor with Rudolph obviously. I feel like at 29 Foles probably is what he is at this point. Rudolph has the potential to be better, or worse. If Beane vets him and feels he has the potential to be better, then I'd rather take the gamble on Rudolph reaching that higher ceiling. Plus weve played around round with other teams backups long enough. Im of the thinking that it's long past time to draft and develop our own.
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