DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, xRUSHx said: Allen, Jackson this 1
DCOrange Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, billspro said: Why would you not want Calvin Ridley? There has never been a WR that tested as unathletic as him that has gone on to be more than a fringe NFL roster player. I'd be fine taking him on Day 2 based on his tape, but I'm not using a 1st on that. In general I don't think this WR class is worth using a 1st round pick on; the guys that you get in the 3rd or 4th round will probably be just as good. Edit: As unathletic AND OLD as Ridley. Edited March 5, 2018 by DCOrange 1
Blokestradamus Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: There has never been a WR that tested as unathletic as him that has gone on to be more than a fringe NFL roster player. I'd be fine taking him on Day 2 based on his tape, but I'm not using a 1st on that. In general I don't think this WR class is worth using a 1st round pick on; the guys that you get in the 3rd or 4th round will probably be just as good. There is also the age concerns with Ridley. His developmental curve probably doesn't last as long as most of the class as a professional. 1
DCOrange Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Blokestradamus said: There is also the age concerns with Ridley. His developmental curve probably doesn't last as long as most of the class as a professional. Yeah, sorry, that's actually one of the factors in the athleticism comment I made. Nobody at his age and athleticism level has ever panned out. I think it's basically 3 7th round picks and Ridley. 1
rodneykm Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Sam Darnold and Lamar Jackson Edited March 5, 2018 by rodneykm
billspro Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, DCOrange said: There has never been a WR that tested as unathletic as him that has gone on to be more than a fringe NFL roster player. I'd be fine taking him on Day 2 based on his tape, but I'm not using a 1st on that. In general I don't think this WR class is worth using a 1st round pick on; the guys that you get in the 3rd or 4th round will probably be just as good. He ran a 4.43, I wouldn't call that unathletic. He is a great route runner as well. 1
BigBuff423 Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Baker Mayfield Any TE No to Hurst with new heart condition info - probably nothing, but not taking the risk, IMO Any RB not named Barkley - position is just so deep this year, 2nd Round / 3rd Round is the sweet spot
DCOrange Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, billspro said: He ran a 4.43, I wouldn't call that unathletic. He is a great route runner as well. Edited March 5, 2018 by DCOrange
corta765 Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Josh Allen. Dude screams of every red flag scouts have, yet everyone only looks at his physical attributes. Matt Stafford is the only QB recently who has succeeded despite a completion % in college that was sub 60%. He is the only QB of the potential 1st round guys I would feel was a failure by drafting him without him playing a down yet. Edited March 5, 2018 by corta765
Kirby Jackson Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Good topic!! It has to be Orlando Brown. Concerns about his tape, strength, athleticism, and effort are all out there. There were questions on him entering this week and he had, arguably, the worst combine ANY player has ever had. I would say that DB has to be off the board for the Bills because they have too many other holes than to take a guy in their strongest area. I am also not a big fan of Rudolph but I don’t see him going in the 1st. Not a fan of taking any interior OL (except Nelson) in the 1st. Obviously that isn’t an option so you can put the rest of them in that group. It’s just not good value IMO.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: No question as his erratic throwing with one good pass and the next is a bad pass will have him rivaling Geno Smith for turnovers in the NFL. He might be a greatly talented athlete but that doesn't always equate to a franchise pocket passer. Except of course, with throw-aways and spikes included, he can't possibly be that erratic as one good/one bad and have completed 59% of his passes for 3660 yds his Jr year with 12% drops. He does have poor mechanics that affect his accuracy at times but so does Allen (in spades) and to lesser degrees, Darnold, Mayfield and Rudolph. The real question with Jackson IMO is the same as with any QB who doesn't play effectively in a pro-style offense against top defenses: will he successfully adjust to the complexity and skill level of NFL defenses and the complexity of offense/increased accuracy needed to succeed against them? 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: I find it funny most fans are begging for another QB but according to this thread most are extremely skeptical of the ones in this draft. I think fans don't accept that finding a QB is a process. They want Magical Franchise Guy to ride in with "Franchise Man" embroidered on his fancy hat, vs understanding that we may not be able to get into the top 2 picks in a year with a good QB crop, therefore we're going to have to do what most other teams do: work at it, take shots, and recognize that the initial goal is adequate QB play to win with, then constantly work to improve from there. 1
McBean Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Easy for me. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. I’ve never been so sure of two busts in my life.
707BillsFan Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, 947 said: Josh Allen, aka Ryan Leaf 2.0. So he's going to fail in the NFL, get addicted to drugs and do a 5yr stint in prison after breaking into someone's house? That escalated quickly.
KD in CA Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 -Any QB whose top 3 attributes include “makes plays with his legs” -Any RB or WR 2 1
DocLawless Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 I will end up becoming a fan of whoever they select, but I would really like them to stay away from Rosen and Mayfield. Not a big fan of their attitudes, just my opinion. Plus they would most likely need to trade up to get either one and I would prefer they stay put and get two first round talents.
CamDMC Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, McBean said: Easy for me. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. I’ve never been so sure of two busts in my life. What makes you so sure on Jackson?
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