PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 So some are worried or scared that Lamar Jackson will turn out to be another Tyrod Taylor.. So i Thought I would post both stats and let you decide. Tyrod Taylor PASSING Stats YEAR CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 2007 72 134 53.7 927 6.9 5 59 3 119.7 2008 99 173 57.2 1036 6.0 2 40 7 103.2 2009 136 243 56.0 2311 9.5 13 81 5 149.4 2010 188 315 59.7 2743 8.7 24 69 5 154.8 RUSHING Stats YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD 2007 102 420 4.1 52 6 2008 147 738 5.0 73 7 2009 106 370 3.5 46 5 2010 146 659 4.5 72 5 Lamar Jackson PASSING Stats YEAR CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 2017 254 430 59.1 3660 8.5 27 78 10 146.6 2016 230 409 56.2 3543 8.7 30 74 9 148.8 2015 135 247 54.7 1840 7.4 12 56 8 126.8 RUSHING Stats YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD 2017 232 1601 6.9 75 18 2016 260 1571 6.0 72 21 2015 163 960 5.9 73 11 Notes 1. Jackson is coming out 1 year early but played as starting QB in college 1 year more so thus Jackson comes out more experienced. 2. Jackson best year Passing + Rushing yard total is 5,602 Yards total. Tyrods Total yards on his best year? 3,402 yards. Yes different conference different system but damn. 3. Taylor best year he threw the ball 315 times and 5 INT. Jackson best year threw the ball 430 times with 10 INT. 4. Taylor best year in TD's he had a total of 29 TD's. Jackson total TD's on his best year was 51. 5. Taylor was drafted in 6th round. Jackson is picked to be drafted in round 1 or 2. So with this info in mind I ask you.. Is Lamar Jackson another Vic, Taylor? Or do you think he will be much better? Thoughts 2
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Jackson actually throws people open and takes chances unlike TT and unlike Vick he’s more than comfortable sitting in the pocket than bailing. I’d be really happy if we drafted him. Special talent and he’s a special kid too. 4 3
Boatdrinks Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Not a sure thing, but who is? I'd take a shot at him in the right spot. To me, that's outside of the top 20. I'm pretty sure he's a LOT better than Taylor ever was.
ghostwriter Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 If we did draft Jackson, I'd want to take advantage of him as a runner, I think it'd be a mistake not to. Run option, spread offense and of course sprinkles of a pro style offense. I do think he'll be way better than Taylor, but I don't think he'll ever be a 4,000 yard passer, he may get you 4,000 yards rushing/passing combined, maybe he could grow as a passer as time goes on, but forcing him to be a pocket QB early in his career is a really bad idea.
jr1 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 I like this clip because it shows his escapability and arm strength 2
PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Another Vick. Might work, might not. That's what I am wondering. 50 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Not a sure thing, but who is? I'd take a shot at him in the right spot. To me, that's outside of the top 20. I'm pretty sure he's a LOT better than Taylor ever was. I agree its a crap shoot. What would be your "spot" 43 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: If we did draft Jackson, I'd want to take advantage of him as a runner, I think it'd be a mistake not to. Run option, spread offense and of course sprinkles of a pro style offense. I do think he'll be way better than Taylor, but I don't think he'll ever be a 4,000 yard passer, he may get you 4,000 yards rushing/passing combined, maybe he could grow as a passer as time goes on, but forcing him to be a pocket QB early in his career is a really bad idea. You mean like taking advantage of Tyrods running abilities? how that working out? 24 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: TT threw less interceptions though! Tyrod came out a bit more accurate yes. 7 minutes ago, jr1 said: I like this clip because it shows his escapability and arm strength I can show you a few Tyrod whipped down field also. watch both.
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Another Vick. Might work, might not. Just like every qb in this draft Vick (young Vick) carried his teams.....the slam on TT is that he is a game manager that is incapable of doing that. 1
ndirish1978 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) I don't dislike Jackson, my view on him is the same as it is on Allen, Rudolph and to a lesser extent Darnold: there are a lot of things to like, but there are a bunch of issues that are directly related to how they play, be it inaccurate passing or a tendency to turn the ball over. IMO Rosen and Mayfield are a cut above the rest in terms of accuracy and have all the tools that translate to being a good QB in general. That said, Rosen's 2 concussions worry me and there's always the question of whether Mayfield's height will affect him at the next level. There's no surefire way to predict future success, the only thing you can do to maximize the chance you find a franchise QB is to pick someone with as little risk on the field as possible. For that reason and that reason only I think Rosen and Mayfield are the two best QBs in the draft. The other 4 could all be successful, but I would feel most comfortable with someone who I know can play the position at a high level and who I'm not depending on massive growth in order for them to be successful. I think those two have the highest floors. Unlike other years where the safer pick may not have the same ceiling as other QBs, I think Rosen and Mayfield have the same potential as the other four but with less risk. Edited March 4, 2018 by ndirish1978 2
#34fan Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Call it a hunch, but the more I think about Jackson, the more I feel like he'll be wearing aqua and orange come May...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: I don't dislike Jackson, my view on him is the same as it is on Allen, Rudolph and to a lesser extent Darnold: there are a lot of things to like, but there are a bunch of issues that are directly related to how they play, be it inaccurate passing or a tendency to turn the ball over. IMO Rosen and Mayfield are a cut above the rest in terms of accuracy and have all the tools that translate to being a good QB in general. That said, Rosen's 2 concussions worry me and there's always the question of whether Mayfield's height will affect him at the next level. There's no surefire way to predict future success, the only thing you can do to maximize the chance you find a franchise QB is to pick someone with as little risk on the field as possible. For that reason and that reason only I think Rosen and Mayfield are the two best QBs in the draft. The other 4 could all be successful, but I would feel most comfortable with someone who I know can play the position at a high level and who I'm not depending on massive growth in order for them to be successful. I think those two have the highest floors. Fair Observation 1 minute ago, #34fan said: Call it a hunch, but the more I think about Jackson, the more I feel like he'll be wearing aqua and orange come May... Miami huh? lol
simool Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Another Vick. This is such a lazy statement. No he is not another Vick. There was one Michael Vick. Damn good quarterback who let his personal life kill any chance of sustained NFL success. Well that and playing for/in Atlanta By all accounts Jackson seems to have some character to him. 1 1
PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, simool said: This is such a lazy statement. No he is not another Vick. There was one Michael Vick. Damn good quarterback who let his personal life kill any chance of sustained NFL success. Well that and playing for/in Atlanta By all accounts Jackson seems to have some character to him. so you know we are talking about on the field not off right?
simool Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: so you know we are talking about on the field not off right? I do. Still a lazy statement. Thats like saying Allen is another Ryan Leaf. You never hear that crap uttered about white qb's. 1
PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, simool said: I do. Still a lazy statement. Thats like saying Allen is another Ryan Leaf. You never hear that crap uttered about white qb's. I think you need to read up to op. Original Question is he another Tyrod/Vic or not? he said Vic. I think you need to skip the drama. he only answered my question and the question at hand was concerning ON field. Everyone knows he is not another Vic off the field. please skip the drama. Edited March 4, 2018 by PrimeTime101
simool Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think you need to read up to op. Original Question is he another Tyrod/Vic or not? he said Vic. I think you need to skip the drama. he only answered my question So I quoted the wrong post. You are the one with lazy correlations. I think you need to skip the correlations ace. You suck at it.
PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, simool said: So I quoted the wrong post. You are the one with lazy correlations. I think you need to skip the correlations ace. You suck at it. Stop being a drama boy please. I have no time for it.
simool Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: Stop being a drama boy please. I have no time for it. You posted back at me Sally. I don't have time to banter with tools.
PrimeTime101 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, simool said: You posted back at me Sally. I don't have time to banter with tools. Sally? lol give it a rest
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