3rdnlng Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/26/lawsuit-100000-noncitizens-registered-vote-pa/ More than 100,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in Pennsylvania alone, according to testimony submitted Monday in a lawsuit demanding the state come clean about the extent of its problems. The Public Interest Legal Foundation, which has identified similar noncitizen voting problems in studies of Virginia and New Jersey, said Pennsylvania officials have admitted noncitizens have been registering and voting in the state “for decades.” But state officials have stonewalled PILF requests for access to the data that could expose the problem, the group says in a lawsuit filed in federal court in Harrisburg. “For months, Pennsylvania bureaucrats have concealed facts about noncitizens registering and voting — that ends today,” PILF President and General Counsel J. Christian Adams said. He said Pennsylvania had already admitted to a “glitch” dating back to the 1990s that had allowed noncitizens applying to renew driver’s licenses to be offered the chance to register to vote. Mr. Adams said he now wants to find out how bad the problem is overall. Pennsylvania officials wouldn’t respond to the lawsuit, nor to the 100,000 noncitizen number. “We’re not going to comment on anything related to litigation,” said Wanda Murren, director of communications and press at the Pennsylvania Department of State. The 100,000 number cited in the lawsuit comes from testimony given by Philadelphia Commissioner Al Schmidt, who revealed the glitch in the state motor vehicle bureau’s systems that prompted noncitizens to register to vote. Edited March 3, 2018 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 But, there is "no proof..." Meaning, the media will parrot that until 100s of illegal aliens are caught red handed on multiple occasions. We cast our ballot in secret which will make that direct proof kind of hard to come by. I think normal people with a lick of common sense are aware of the fact illegal aliens vote and are being encouraged to do so by some on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Paulus said: But, there is "no proof..." Meaning, the media will parrot that until 100s of illegal aliens are caught red handed on multiple occasions. We cast our ballot in secret which will make that direct proof kind of hard to come by. I think normal people with a lick of common sense are aware of the fact illegal aliens vote and are being encouraged to do so by some on the left. One doesn't have to see who an illegal voted for, but if they voted at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: One doesn't have to see who an illegal voted for, but if they voted at all. Good luck getting past the politics and the courts to prove it. I agree, but the left, and even some ont the right, will argue you cannot have one without risk to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 No wonder Trump carried PA and the GOP massively carried the congressional; races in 2016! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, baskin said: No wonder Trump carried PA and the GOP massively carried the congressional; races in 2016! Makes sense. People would obviously want to vote for the person who wants to kick them out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Doc said: Makes sense. People would obviously want to vote for the person who wants to kick them out of the country. You're missing the baskin logic which from everything I can tell is: "say nonsense". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, baskin said: No wonder Trump carried PA and the GOP massively carried the congressional; races in 2016! In truth, you figure 100,000 illegals vote for the woman who is going to let them stay and give them 'free' stuff because any thinking person knows they would never vote for Trump. Which makes you wonder just how embarrassing this loss was for the left. Trump spotted you 100,000 votes in PA...and she STILL got her ass kicked. SAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, baskin said: No wonder Trump carried PA and the GOP massively carried the congressional; races in 2016! If I were a wagering man, I would put my money on the illegal immigrant population in PA to be centered in Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, and Delaware counties with another enclave in Allegheny county Care to guess which counties are Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, Delaware and Allegheny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, /dev/null said: If I were a wagering man, I would put my money on the illegal immigrant population in PA to be centered in Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, and Delaware counties with another enclave in Allegheny county Care to guess which counties are Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, Delaware and Allegheny? Wow. I forgot how badly Hillary lost. How embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Gosh, without the illegal ones voting, Republicans could have won all 18 congressional districts, instead of just winning 13 of 18 in this battle ground state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, /dev/null said: If I were a wagering man, I would put my money on the illegal immigrant population in PA to be centered in Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, and Delaware counties with another enclave in Allegheny county Care to guess which counties are Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, Delaware and Allegheny? When a dem loses Erie County there's something terribly wrong with them. The day after the 2016 election I traveled through the county and was in the Wolf Road area, Chestnut Hill, Fairview, the City, Green Township, Harborcreek and North East. The Trump signs were all over. An estate in Wolf Road area even had a homemade but professional 8'x12' sign. I was actually looking for a Hillary sign and finally found one in Green Township. As I got closer I could read "Hillary For Prison". 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Gosh, without the illegal ones voting, Republicans could have won all 18 congressional districts, instead of just winning 13 of 18 in this battle ground state. Well dumbass: https://www.bing.com/search?q=philadelphia+voting+irregularities&form=PRHPR1&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=a8cd0b398b40482caa761b916b3ec35f&sp=1&qs=SC&pq=philadelphia+voting+irregularities+&sc=5-35&cvid=a8cd0b398b40482caa761b916b3ec35f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: When a dem loses Erie County there's something terribly wrong with them. The day after the 2016 election I traveled through the county and was in the Wolf Road area, Chestnut Hill, Fairview, the City, Green Township, Harborcreek and North East. The Trump signs were all over. An estate in Wolf Road area even had a homemade but professional 8'x12' sign. I was actually looking for a Hillary sign and finally found one in Green Township. As I got closer I could read "Hillary For Prison". I could understand the signs along Wolf Road, Fairview, and out in the suburbs. But the signs in the City and Harborcreek are surprising. When I was home for Thanksgiving in 2016 I was surprised how many leftover Trump signs I saw on my way home from the airport and in my neighborhood on the west side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: I could understand the signs along Wolf Road, Fairview, and out in the suburbs. But the signs in the City and Harborcreek are surprising. When I was home for Thanksgiving in 2016 I was surprised how many leftover Trump signs I saw on my way home from the airport and in my neighborhood on the west side. I still see them but mostly out in the country, and some of those are big wooden signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Lol, house signs! Well that settles that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, house signs! Well that settles that! signs that in the past were for the Democratic candidate Last time a Republican won Erie County was Reagan's landslide in 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 It's not uncommon for municipalities, counties, and states to register noncitizens to vote in local elections. And it's not entirely unreasonable, on the principle of "They live and pay taxes in this city/county, so they should get a say in how things are run." It's usually with the understanding, though, that they are still not permitted to vote in federal elections. Not that I think that last is religiously held to. But I want to see how many of those PA noncitizens voted in federal elections before I scream about election fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 3, 2018 Author Share Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's not uncommon for municipalities, counties, and states to register noncitizens to vote in local elections. And it's not entirely unreasonable, on the principle of "They live and pay taxes in this city/county, so they should get a say in how things are run." It's usually with the understanding, though, that they are still not permitted to vote in federal elections. Not that I think that last is religiously held to. But I want to see how many of those PA noncitizens voted in federal elections before I scream about election fraud. That is just what The Public Interest Legal Foundation is trying to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 They shouldn't vote period. If you want to vote, at any level, apply for citizenship and become one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 46 minutes ago, DC Tom said: It's not uncommon for municipalities, counties, and states to register noncitizens to vote in local elections. And it's not entirely unreasonable, on the principle of "They live and pay taxes in this city/county, so they should get a say in how things are run." It's usually with the understanding, though, that they are still not permitted to vote in federal elections. Not that I think that last is religiously held to. But I want to see how many of those PA noncitizens voted in federal elections before I scream about election fraud. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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