Sharp1128 Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) I just listened to this kids interview and he seems to have a knack for addressing the media and a chip on his shoulder. Comes across as a real pro. 6'4" 1/2 237lbs, God Arm, Accurate, and may be there in Round 2. I know he comes from a spread system and the Big 12, but I would be on board with bringing in a vet and taking Rudolf & James Washington in Round 2. Use the 2 1st rounders to build up the front 7 instead of giving up a ton for one of the big 4. There is no Peyton Manning, Carson Wentz, or Andrew Luck in this draft. I am including the link to the interview, but pay attention to the look and body language at the 6:42 mark when asked about the Bills. I believe that Beane was at Oklahoma State 2x this year scouting him. Mason Rudolph Combine Interview: Scroll to 6:42 to see his reaction when asked about the Bills Edited March 3, 2018 by Sharp1128 Spelling 1
ghostwriter Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 I like him. I'd go as far to say that under the right scenario I'd take him at 21. I understand he is slotted as a RD2 guy, but I think he can be a good pro. 3
Sharp1128 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Posted March 3, 2018 I think he wouldn't make it past the Pats in all honesty. I am excited to see him at the combine tomorrow in comparison to the big 4 qbs, how does he stack up? There is always someone that becomes a riser after the combine, you may have to take him at 21 if he has a good performance and pro day.
ndirish1978 Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 He doesn't have a strong arm, which unfortunately is a need in BUF because of the field conditions and he comes from a spread offense where he wasn't required to go through progressions. I'd prefer someone who has a strong arm and has already spent years doing the things required of him at this level rather than trying to learn them on the fly.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I like him. I'd go as far to say that under the right scenario I'd take him at 21. I understand he is slotted as a RD2 guy, but I think he can be a good pro. I'm not as high on Rudolph after looking more closely at his games and considering the lack of good defenses he faced in the Big 12 Conference. 1
Augie Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Can't take anything too seriously if you and the link can’t spell his name correctly. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Can't take anything too seriously if you and the link can’t spell his name correctly. Maybe he's a secretly a Nazi.
ghostwriter Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'm not as high on Rudolph after looking more closely at his games and considering the lack of good defenses he faced in the Big 12 Conference. Same could be said about Allen and (Mayfield?). I'm not a pro scout, I am not a college guru and I am far from an expert, but Rudolph comes from an offense where the ball was constantly in his hands, he is also very accurate. I've liked Rudolph for a long time, it wouldn't upset me if he was the guy, let me put it that way. 2
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: Same could be said about Allen and (Mayfield?). I'm not a pro scout, I am not a college guru and I am far from an expert, but Rudolph comes from an offense where the ball was constantly in his hands, he is also very accurate. I've liked Rudolph for a long time, it wouldn't upset me if he was the guy, let me put it that way. I think he's okay, but nothing makes me say wow about him and he's really not a guy who's going to make something happen when plays break down. 1
Sharp1128 Posted March 3, 2018 Author Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augie said: Can't take anything too seriously if you and the link can’t spell his name correctly. Fixed it for you Augie, now you can take it seriously! 1
ghostwriter Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I think he's okay, but nothing makes me say wow about him and he's really not a guy who's going to make something happen when plays break down. I understand that, but he is malleable, he can throw the ball. Allen and Jackson both have accuracy issues, but they get a free pass. Rudolph is one of the most accurate throwers in the draft and he is smart, he knows where to go with the ball. Allen and Jackson have big arms, but they don't know where to go with the ball. Rudolph is very accurate and smart, while he won't wow you away with arm talent, he can get it there. 1
PIZ Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 You might be onto something here. This guy has Beane / McDermott written all over him. He's their kind of guy. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I understand that, but he is malleable, he can throw the ball. Allen and Jackson both have accuracy issues, but they get a free pass. Rudolph is one of the most accurate throwers in the draft and he is smart, he knows where to go with the ball. Allen and Jackson have big arms, but they don't know where to go with the ball. Rudolph is very accurate and smart, while he won't wow you away with arm talent, he can get it there. He's okay, but he's last among the so called big six that most are talking about these days. I believe he greatly benefited from the talent surrounding him as well as from weaker defenses in the Big 12. Hasn't really grown his game while at Oklahoma State.
ghostwriter Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's okay, but he's last among the so called big six that most are talking about these days. I believe he greatly benefited from the talent surrounding him as well as from weaker defenses in the Big 12. Hasn't really grown his game while at Oklahoma State. Allen and Jackson are above him because of their ceiling IMO. Rudolph has a lower floor. But Allen and Jackson were both completing less than 60% (56% and 59%), Rudolph completed 63% and every year at Oklahoma St. his accuracy improved. Edited March 3, 2018 by NewDayBills 2
billspro Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Very impressive interview. The kid has the personality of a franchise QB for sure. 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's okay, but he's last among the so called big six that most are talking about these days. I believe he greatly benefited from the talent surrounding him as well as from weaker defenses in the Big 12. Hasn't really grown his game while at Oklahoma State. I would put him ahead of Allen and Jackson at this point, his game is much more developed. He was also a much better player as a senior compared to his Junior season so I would have to disagree. My only concerns with him are arm strength and mobility.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: Very impressive interview. The kid has the personality of a franchise QB for sure. I would put him ahead of Allen and Jackson at this point, his game is much more developed. He was also a much better player as a senior compared to his Junior season so I would have to disagree. My only concerns with him are arm strength and mobility. No way for me. His game looks like it has reached a plateau that isn't very impressive. He's just okay to my eye and that doesn't translate to a 1st round slection.
freester Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Many draft pundits compare him to Bryce Petty who came from a similar offense.
billspro Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No way for me. His game looks like it has reached a plateau that isn't very impressive. He's just okay to my eye and that doesn't translate to a 1st round slection. I don't think any of them are worth a first round pick. I will take the proven asset over potential every time. Accuracy issues almost never improve at the NFL level. I think Rudolph is a very similar prospect to Teddy Bridgewater.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: I don't think any of them are worth a first round pick. I will take the proven asset over potential every time. Accuracy issues almost never improve at the NFL level. I think Rudolph is a very similar prospect to Teddy Bridgewater. I don't. Bridgewater is a better short to intermediate passer while Rudolph is a better deep passer.
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