FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Commonsense said: Vander Esch 98 percentile for height 95 for weight 96 for wingspan 3 cone under 7 seconds 4.66 40 yard dash 2 best shuttle This kid is a beast! KVE and Taven Bryan are beasts
SouthNYfan Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 15 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....funny how people drool or puke over 40 times....when the hell does a guy get to run 40 yds unimpeded during the real deal?......Jesus, Slo Mo Jerry Rice ran a 4.73 and yes, he eventually "sucked"..... Jerry rice running a 4.73 is a pretty well known myth. Bill Walsh was quoted as Jerry running a 4.59 in the 40, and rice himself has always said he was not above 4.6. He wasn't the fastest wr, but he was not a 4.73 either. Here's a good link btw, with some excerpts from Walsh regarding the draft, rice, 40 times, etc http://www.sportsxchange.com/DS97/walsh/walsh3.htm
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Commonsense said: Vander Esch 98 percentile for height 95 for weight 96 for wingspan 3 cone under 7 seconds 4.66 40 yard dash 2 best shuttle This kid is a beast! Mike Mamula LIVES!
CommonCents Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Mike Mamula LIVES! Haha BC, that one hurts.
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Not surprised. He’s been timed as the fastest guy on the team since he showed up on campus.
BuffaloRebound Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Any reason Gesicki not getting more buzz around here? Guy blew up the combine and was hugely productive at Penn State. Carolina had an elite TE in Olsen when McBeane was there.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Commonsense said: That's a tough question to answer because he is a junior! Hilarious one year starter and you know what I mean.
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Any reason Gesicki not getting more buzz around here? Guy blew up the combine and was hugely productive at Penn State. Carolina had an elite TE in Olsen when McBeane was there. There is a Gesicki thread on college forum. He’s a hybrid TE i think. More of a big WR. Can’t block. Great contested catch guy. Just throw it up to him. Been watching him since HS. I like him in the 3rd or later. Edited March 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) MMQB: • Top 10? Asked several GMs/scouts/coaches for their top 10 in the draft as of today. Here’s the consensus, in an order close to this: Barkley, USC QB Sam Darnold, North Carolina State pass-rusher Bradley Chubb, Allen, Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield, UCLA QB Josh Rosen, Notre Dame G Quenton Nelson Alabama DB Minkah Fitzpatrick Ohio State CB Denzel Ward Georgia LB Roquan Smith https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/05/nfl-combine-2018-news-josh-rosen-shaquem-griffin-mmqb-peter-king Edited March 5, 2018 by Reed83HOF
HappyDays Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Any reason Gesicki not getting more buzz around here? Guy blew up the combine and was hugely productive at Penn State. Carolina had an elite TE in Olsen when McBeane was there. I like him, and I've seen some scouts compare him to Gronk. Another Penn State guy to keep an eye on is Christian Campbell, 6th or 7th round CB with really long arms and better playing off-man/zone. I think McDermott will draft one of these Penn State guys.
Pete Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Mike Mamula LIVES! Mike Mamula scored a 49 on the Wonderlic
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pete said: Mike Mamula scored a 49 on the Wonderlic He was also a DE. Don't need a 49 as a DE. DO as a QB.
Pete Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: He was also a DE. Don't need a 49 as a DE. DO as a QB. 49 on the wonderlic is damn impressive. And Mamula used his brains to outsmart Eagles. He knew there was an emphasis on the combine results, so he specifically trained all year for the underwear olympics and got paid. BTW he played 6 years and was pretty good
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: Jerry rice running a 4.73 is a pretty well known myth. Bill Walsh was quoted as Jerry running a 4.59 in the 40, and rice himself has always said he was not above 4.6. He wasn't the fastest wr, but he was not a 4.73 either. Here's a good link btw, with some excerpts from Walsh regarding the draft, rice, 40 times, etc http://www.sportsxchange.com/DS97/walsh/walsh3.htm ...thanks.......appreciate clarification.......
wppete Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Commonsense said: Vander Esch 98 percentile for height 95 for weight 96 for wingspan 3 cone under 7 seconds 4.66 40 yard dash 2 best shuttle This kid is a beast! Id Take McCray from Michigan over him anytime.
SouthNYfan Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...thanks.......appreciate clarification....... No problem By the way I agree with you commitment about 40 times being overblown Rice was a great example of that, his 4.59 dash was #13 for wr in his draft class The Walsh article I linked goes into great detail about how combine times aren't as important, but the drills/events are still very good at determining things, such as a OL or DL running the 40, they look at his running mechanics, how his balance looks, etc
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Id Take McCray from Michigan over him anytime. He slow
wppete Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He slow 4.67 40 time. Looks faster on tape and moves great and afressive. I like him if we can get him in the 4th or 5th rounds.
thebandit27 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Posted March 5, 2018 Derwin James with a great set of numbers: 21 reps, 40" vertical, 11' broad
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