Royale with Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 8:49 PM, Reed83HOF said: And the new update: Mike RodakVerified account @mikerodak FollowingFollowing @mikerodak More Mike Rodak Retweeted Mike Rodak Since 2015, the Bills have scored (FG or TD) on 28% of fourth-quarter drives when trailing by eight or fewer points. That ranks 30th. Meanwhile, 40% of such drives have ended 3-and-out, second-worst in NFL. Expand So 30th and 31st in two important categories....yikes. 1
Reed83HOF Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 8:52 PM, Royale with Cheese said: So 30th and 31st in two important categories....yikes. Expand None of any of this is surprising if you watch the games... 2
Royale with Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 8:53 PM, Reed83HOF said: None of any of this is surprising if you watch the games... Expand It's not. Pretty much every time we're down in the 4th, I expect a loss. I know we've had a few comebacks but the majority of the time the outcome is disappointing. I view Taylor as Nicholas Cage....he's had some good films but most of them leave you disappointed. 1
K-9 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 8:56 PM, Royale with Cheese said: It's not. Pretty much every time we're down in the 4th, I expect a loss. I know we've had a few comebacks but the majority of the time the outcome is disappointing. I view Taylor as Nicholas Cage....he's had some good films but most of them leave you disappointed. Expand What’s the NFL QB equivalent of winning the Oscar for best actor? Because until TT achieves that, he is rungs below Nicolas Cage.
BADOLBILZ Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 The two most critical games of Tyrod's career: 1) at Miami this year.........which he won 2) At home against Miami in 2016 with playoffs on the line......where he twice lead the Bills back from 14 point deficits......including a long TD drive to go up 3 with just over a minute left........and the subsequent long OT drive where Carpenter missed the chip shot FG. There are some good and some bad aspects with Tyrod late in games...........but then again last season we were also treated to the stat about Aaron Rodgers abysmal track record against winning teams when trailing by even ONE POINT in the 4th quarter that made him look like utter garbage too. Small stat samples don't necessarily tell the story. 1 1
ColoradoBills Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 The most interesting stat I want to see from TT will be on another teams game log. I want a new QB, please.
elroy16 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I really want to shove these stats into Evan Silva's face, but it's not worth the effort. He said he hoped Buffalo didn't get into the playoffs because McD put himself above the team when he played Peterman against the Chargers. Per him, Bills fans are narrow minded and myopic and can't see the league landscape, therefore we blew the QB situation. We put our fanboy feel over facts.
Teddy KGB Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) On 2/27/2018 at 9:09 PM, BADOLBILZ said: The two most critical games of Tyrod's career: 1) at Miami this year.........which he won 2) At home against Miami in 2016 with playoffs on the line......where he twice lead the Bills back from 14 point deficits......including a long TD drive to go up 3 with just over a minute left........and the subsequent long OT drive where Carpenter missed the chip shot FG. There are some good and some bad aspects with Tyrod late in games...........but then again last season we were also treated to the stat about Aaron Rodgers abysmal track record against winning teams when trailing by even ONE POINT in the 4th quarter that made him look like utter garbage too. Small stat samples don't necessarily tell the story. Expand Why is Miami more critical than Jacksonville ? What about Philly, Washington, Steelers, Raiders, Pats, Saints, Panthers, Bengals, Ravens, etc ? Beating David Fales is his Mona Lisa ? Edited February 27, 2018 by Teddy KGB 2
John from Riverside Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:17 PM, Teddy KGB said: Why is Miami more critical than Jacksonville ? What about Philly, Washington, Steelers, Raiders, Pats, Saints, etc ? Cot runs deep Expand As does the hate Ryan
Teddy KGB Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:19 PM, John from Hemet said: As does the hate Ryan Expand This gets funnier after the 20th time ? Just pm him if you miss him so much. Maybe he can become your pen pal.
Royale with Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:02 PM, K-9 said: What’s the NFL QB equivalent of winning the Oscar for best actor? Because until TT achieves that, he is rungs below Nicolas Cage. Expand You know what....I completely forgot Cage won an Oscar. Completely forgot.
John from Riverside Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:26 PM, Teddy KGB said: This gets funnier after the 20th time ? Just pm him if you miss him so much. Maybe he can become your pen pal. Expand Your not fooling anybody Ryan
YattaOkasan Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 Tried to replicate this with Pro Football Reference (OMFG that site). I added OT cause you know its pretty critical. I get sorta different numbers. Puts TT clearly in bottom 3rd but not really dead last. I would like to see how he gathered his data. But seriously that PFR tool seems cray cray. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/play_finder.cgi?request=1&match=summary_all&year_min=2015&year_max=2017&game_type=R&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&quarter[]=4&quarter[]=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=0&down[]=0&down[]=1&down[]=2&down[]=3&down[]=4&field_pos_min_field=team&field_pos_max_field=team&end_field_pos_min_field=team&end_field_pos_max_field=team&type[]=PASS&type[]=2PCP&include_kneels=N&no_play=N&turnover_type[]=interception&turnover_type[]=fumble&score_type[]=touchdown&score_type[]=field_goal&score_type[]=safety&margin_min=-8&margin_max=0&rush_direction[]=LE&rush_direction[]=LT&rush_direction[]=LG&rush_direction[]=M&rush_direction[]=RG&rush_direction[]=RT&rush_direction[]=RE&pass_location[]=SL&pass_location[]=SM&pass_location[]=SR&pass_location[]=DL&pass_location[]=DM&pass_location[]=DR&order_by=yards#offense::none
John from Riverside Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:43 PM, YattaOkasan said: Tried to replicate this with Pro Football Reference (OMFG that site). I added OT cause you know its pretty critical. I get sorta different numbers. Puts TT clearly in bottom 3rd but not really dead last. I would like to see how he gathered his data. But seriously that PFR tool seems cray cray. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/play_finder.cgi?request=1&match=summary_all&year_min=2015&year_max=2017&game_type=R&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&quarter[]=4&quarter[]=5&tr_gtlt=lt&minutes=15&seconds=0&down[]=0&down[]=1&down[]=2&down[]=3&down[]=4&field_pos_min_field=team&field_pos_max_field=team&end_field_pos_min_field=team&end_field_pos_max_field=team&type[]=PASS&type[]=2PCP&include_kneels=N&no_play=N&turnover_type[]=interception&turnover_type[]=fumble&score_type[]=touchdown&score_type[]=field_goal&score_type[]=safety&margin_min=-8&margin_max=0&rush_direction[]=LE&rush_direction[]=LT&rush_direction[]=LG&rush_direction[]=M&rush_direction[]=RG&rush_direction[]=RT&rush_direction[]=RE&pass_location[]=SL&pass_location[]=SM&pass_location[]=SR&pass_location[]=DL&pass_location[]=DM&pass_location[]=DR&order_by=yards#offense::none Expand I personally do appreciate the attempts to come up with data to reflect what our eyes are actually seeing A lot of variables.....but bottom line is TT has hit his ceiling....the question is his his ceiling good enough to get us through a year so a talented 1st round draft pick QB can not be thrown to the wolves?
Big Turk Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 8:14 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: I think I've got it reverse engineered at this point. When the Bills are trailing by 8 or fewer points in the 4th Quarter, Tyrod is: 38/71 for 455 yards, 3 TDs and 5 INTs. He's taken 7 sacks, and he's converted 19 1st downs. Expand Werent a couple of those meaningless throws late in games where he is trying to force something when we have been down big?
YattaOkasan Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:47 PM, John from Hemet said: I personally do appreciate the attempts to come up with data to reflect what our eyes are actually seeing A lot of variables.....but bottom line is TT has hit his ceiling....the question is his his ceiling good enough to get us through a year so a talented 1st round draft pick QB can not be thrown to the wolves? Expand So its definitely adding OT that changed things. Adds 4 not good QBs to the list. TT didnt really have a lot of attempts in OT. Could probably change the qualifying from 50+ passes to 60+ passes.
BuffaloBill Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 5:25 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: Not Pizza but she's eyeing that sub Expand Bunch of horny pervs hijacking this thread
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I just know when the chips are down and we are behind I don't want to see Tyrod on the field for us. I know we were spoiled as fans with Kelly and even Reich being able to come from behind and win. Heck I remember thinking Kelly wasn't even getting going until the second half. Now with Tyrod I know when we are behind by anything more than a FG I feel like the game is over in the second half.
John from Riverside Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/27/2018 at 9:52 PM, BuffaloBill said: Bunch of horny pervs hijacking this thread Expand She is a keeper
YattaOkasan Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) On 2/27/2018 at 9:51 PM, matter2003 said: Werent a couple of those meaningless throws late in games where he is trying to force something when we have been down big? Expand Hes actually relatively small sample size relative to other QBs. Including the OT (so 4 lowest included) hes 27 out 36 qualifying. Edited February 27, 2018 by YattaOkasan added ranking for pass attempts
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