Buff808 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 I will guarantee the Bill will do the wrong thing, they always do. They should keep Taylor. If they can get Bridgewater, forget these dam rookies, if you didn't learn from the last fifteen years you will never learn. Use the picks to build a team around these QBs play to win now before your good players all have to retire. We may get. QB in the 3rd round. He may be just as good without the risk of putting our future in one pick, if he is a flop we lose big time. 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: MIN is the perfect scenario for Cousins: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-rumors-vikings-have-mutual-interest-looking-at-a-possible-broncos-deal/ The Vikings are in a fascinating situation, because they have a trio of free-agent quarterbacks in Case Keenum, Sam Bradford and Teddy Bridgewater. In other words, they have three quarterbacks, but they don't really have any quarterbacks. And it sounds like they may ultimately decide not to place the franchise tag on Keenum. Which would put them squarely in the Cousins sweepstakes. And, unlike anyone else, the Vikings can offer Cousins what few other NFL teams can: a viable chance to win a Super Bowl. The Broncos can be contenders if they land Cousins and if they are able to retain the offensive and defensive pieces necessary to compete. The Vikings don't need to do anything. They have Stefon Diggs, Adam Thielen, Kyle Rudolph and Dalvin Cook in place on offense. The defense is built to be dominant for the next few years. The Vikings will compete for the Super Bowl with a decent quarterback, and Cousins would give them a top-tier options. Benefiting Minnesota -- and Denver -- is the notion that Cousins already made a lot of money and stands to make a lot of money moving forward regardless of where he plays. Cousins has pointed out it's important for him to be happy and to win. It might mean he ends up taking a little bit less to try and push Minnesota over the top. After reading this book over vacation I have changed my tune on this subject, spending that much on a QB will leave too little and I wouldn't do it. Caponomics: Building Super Bowl Champions It is almost absurd to spend 17% of your cap on a QB who isn't truly elite. So it may just be me, and the Vikings will jump right on the Bandwagon and go after him. They will have Diggs, Barr, Kendricks etc. coming up at the end of 2018 too. Again, I could be wrong, they have weapons and a defense. IAnd, they have cap space right now. Maybe they structure the deal some other way. I'm not doing it. I actually think its good for the Bills. Edited February 26, 2018 by horned dogs 1
Alphadawg7 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 Anyone wondering if the Vikes might just forego any of their own QB's and target drafting one? I guess Cousins and AJ could also be in play here, but are they really going to let all 3 guys walk without knowing if they can land Cousins (or someone else like AJ they might like)? Maybe they are just prepared to focus on drafting a guy realizing Bradford and Teddy are major injury liabilities, and Keenum is still just Keenum.
NewEra Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 44 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would the lose Keenum for McCarron? I don't get the McCarron.... $$ i don’t get McCarron,, but I REALLY don’t get Case getting paid 20+ mill.
GunnerBill Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Anyone wondering if the Vikes might just forego any of their own QB's and target drafting one? I guess Cousins and AJ could also be in play here, but are they really going to let all 3 guys walk without knowing if they can land Cousins (or someone else like AJ they might like)? Maybe they are just prepared to focus on drafting a guy realizing Bradford and Teddy are major injury liabilities, and Keenum is still just Keenum. I think they just love Teddy. Wouldn't be at all surprised if they roll with him and take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Alphadawg7 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think they just love Teddy. Wouldn't be at all surprised if they roll with him and take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. Ah, is there speculation now they will resign Teddy? I guess that makes sense if they maybe plan to grab a guy like Mason, Falk or White at some point in the 2nd or 3rd. I dont really blame them for not committing to Keenum, he has all the makings of a mediocre starter at best IMO. Dont take anything away from his time in Minny this year, but I feel like there is some fools gold built into his luster. Could be wrong, but he isn't a guy I personally would be comfortable giving a decent size contract to.
TheFunPolice Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 I don't think Keenum is very good. He strikes me as a Matt Schaub type, who you sign to big contract then draft your QB once you realize your mistake a few years later.
gobills1212 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I don't see Minnesota in the QB market, they have 3 QBs, one of them had to go. They probably figured Keenum was a flash in the pan or think Bridgewater will get back to normal and keep Bradford as the backup. You understand their contract situations right? Just bc they had 3 qbs last year doesn't mean they have 3 qbs NEXT year. Generally, when contracts expire the player isn't expected to come right back the next year with out a contract. Thank R.C.Owens for that. Teddys status is still up in the air, but since neither of these other qbs are named Drew Brees and a guy like Cousins is out there it makes sense for the time being, MAYBE, they have 1 qb. I'd imagine that's prob pretty convient if they want to get skinny in the roster at that position for someone they deem special.
TheFunPolice Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 I don't get the Bridgewater hype either... He never struck me as great, and that was before he missed almost 2 years with a horrific injury. If Bradford could stay healthy he would be top 10 but he constantly gets hurt as soon as things start going well for him. But he is by far the best of the Vikings 3 QBs in my book.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They have already been rumored to be interested in McCarron, and I think it makes a lot of sense. ...so Cleveland's luvfest must be over........
Ittakestime Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 I know most won't agree, but I would take Keenum on the this team and would pay him 20 or so million. The guy isn't much different than Foles. Look at what Foles did in the right offense. I actually really like the Daboll hire and think he will adapt to his QB better than the previous OCs we had.
Saxum Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 4 hours ago, 8-8 Forever? said: paying 20-25+ mil for a Case or a Foles just seems kind of crazy to me, when you can get an above average talent in the draft this year for $5m .. football revolves around the Qb, but i not sure about the old "QB carrying an otherwise average team" anymore... things seem to be evolving the other way, where a great roster can carry an above average QB at least to the conference title games. what say you? I say a great "Rest of the Roster" + Nate Peterman + rookie QB picked at 21 makes the playoff run 3 out of the next 5 years. what say you? No unless we are tanking for next year. 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I say no to any equation with Peterman in it. I agree. There should be a minus sign ('-') not a plus sign ('+') in that equation. 1
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 was garbage without Shurmur, no thanks. But I will spend s 5th on Bridgewater.
gobills1212 Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Buff808 said: I will guarantee the Bill will do the wrong thing, they always do. They should keep Taylor. If they can get Bridgewater, forget these dam rookies, if you didn't learn from the last fifteen years you will never learn. Use the picks to build a team around these QBs play to win now before your good players all have to retire. We may get. QB in the 3rd round. He may be just as good without the risk of putting our future in one pick, if he is a flop we lose big time. You must be an absolute pleasure to watch a game with;) 1
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2018 Author Posted February 27, 2018 Why would the Vikings choose not to franchise tag Case Keenum? - 1500 ESPN Twin Cities NFL Network’s Ian Rapaport is reporting that the Vikings are not expected to tag Keenum before the March 6 deadline. The team will still have several weeks to work out a long-term contract with Keenum if they please, but it would now come as a surprise if the Vikings were willing to pay the highest price on the market with several other teams reported to be interested. Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller noted that the Broncos could be a top landing spot. If Keenum’s run as a Viking is over, what went into the decision?
OldTimer1960 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Keenum would be a good signing for Cleveland or NYJ Why do you think that? i see Cleveland as a soon-to- be-very-good team. They have the 1st and 4th picks, why would they be interested in signing Keenum, who likely (IMHO) will regress to his “mean” which is not very good?
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2018 Author Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why would the Vikings choose not to franchise tag Case Keenum? - 1500 ESPN Twin Cities NFL Network’s Ian Rapaport is reporting that the Vikings are not expected to tag Keenum before the March 6 deadline. The team will still have several weeks to work out a long-term contract with Keenum if they please, but it would now come as a surprise if the Vikings were willing to pay the highest price on the market with several other teams reported to be interested. Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller noted that the Broncos could be a top landing spot. If Keenum’s run as a Viking is over, what went into the decision?
BillsFan4 Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) I've said for a while now that I thought Minnesota could be the perfect landing spot for Cousins, and that they very well could decide to take a run at him instead of signing Keenum. my guess is still that they could be Cousins 1st choice. They have the cap cap space and team to surround him with. There's lots of talent on both sides of the ball and Cousins can step right in and compete for a Super Bowl. Seems like a no brainer for Cousins IMO. 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Let some other team overpay for him. Oh boy, I just hope it's not Buffalo who gives Keenum that big pay day. One good season in an otherwise mediocre top poor career scares me. I am far from convinced that Keenum can repeat his success from last season, especially on another (weaker) team. Edited February 27, 2018 by BillsFan4
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 Keenum is fools good. Please do not sign him. 3
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