Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Well, some astronauts claim space is the blackest black one can see with absolutely no visible stars other than the earth n the sun. While others say its so beautiful to see all the stars in space.which is it? How can there possibly be a different view from space? Also, google all the different "supposed" pictures of Earth from space. From 40 years ago to current. Not ONE are identical. In fact, not even really close I agree with that! Im not evolved from apes! I was created by "God". Proud to say? Do you have kids?
BuffAlone Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 10 hours ago, DC Tom said: How do you figure? That's about 100 years after Pythagoras first pitched it, and after the Phoenecians reported it to the Egyptian Pharoah. And there's compelling evidence that the Egyptians had measured the circumference of the Earth as early as 1500 BCE. The Neo-Babylonians postulated a spherical earth by 700BC for several reasons - not least among them, and shared with other cultures, being that you can't have a Geocentric Universe without the Earth being a sphere (a flat Earth places the Earth below the cosmos, not giving it primacy, so a spherical Earth eventually becomes a theological requirement.) By 500BCE, it was basically backwards hicks like the Etruscans or Scythians that thought the Earth was flat. Trump and Putin? Thats odd then because mariners right up untill the 15-1600's feared falling off the edge of the Earth... 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Do you have kids? Indeed I do. They were pro-Created! Not pro-EVOLVED
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Indeed I do. They were pro-Created! Not pro-EVOLVED Yikes.
Coach Tuesday Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I agree with that! Im not evolved from apes! I was created by "God". Proud to say? I'm not sure how proud God is...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I can’t believe there isn’t one recorded evidence of someone falling off the earth going too far. Geno, be the first....just keep walking. 2
BuffAlone Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I'm not sure how proud God is... Well, if we are talking God know this, the Lord said let there be a firmament above the Earth, to seperate the waters of the Earth from the waters above the Earth....so there's that?
Royale with Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Thats odd then because mariners right up untill the 15-1600's feared falling off the edge of the Earth... Indeed I do. They were pro-Created! Not pro-EVOLVED Education and science took a major step back in the dark ages....
BuffAlone Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Education and science took a major step back in the dark ages.... Lol...agreed
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Bad Things said: I honestly can't believe people actually believe this crap. How about the different time zones? I live in New Zealand, where it's daylight right now. (8:00 pm) In New York, it's now 2 in the morning and dark. How would this be possible if the earth wasn't round? because the Sun runs it's course then zips back to the other side like a carriage return on an old typewriter duh What does Donald T think?
Coach Tuesday Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Well, some astronauts claim space is the blackest black one can see with absolutely no visible stars other than the earth n the sun. While others say its so beautiful to see all the stars in space.which is it? How can there possibly be a different view from space? Also, google all the different "supposed" pictures of Earth from space. From 40 years ago to current. Not ONE are identical. In fact, not even really close I'm sorry but... this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read, anywhere, ever, in my entire life. I'm trying hard not to attack you personally. I am hoping you don't actually believe in this "argument."
Royale with Cheese Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 13 hours ago, BuffAlone said: I'm aware this isn't the forum, but let me say...for 10's of thousands of years, thru ancient, and advanced technological societies, it was a well known fact that the earth was flat. For any christian or Muslim out there, read your texts. God created the "firmament" and the waters ABOVE AND BELOW. Van Allen asteroid belt? No true picture( all earth photos are "artist renderings")? All of the sudden, 500 years ago, after THOUSANDS OF YEARS of knowledge and technology, somebody comes along with a midel that 'works' for the church and everything changes? Who was more advanced? Us, today? Or Mayans.or Egyptians? Just food for thought. Carry on?? http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160126-how-we-know-earth-is-round Over 2,000 years ago, the Greek philosopher Aristotle had it all figured out. The fact that Earth is round has been common knowledge ever since In his book On the Heavens, he wrote: "Again, our observations of the stars make it evident, not only that the Earth is circular, but also that it is a circle of no great size. For quite a small change of position to south or north causes a manifest alteration of the horizon." In other words, you see different sets of stars in the night sky depending on where you are. The sky over the northern hemisphere is not the same as the sky over the southern hemisphere. If the Earth was flat, then at any given time we would all see the same stars, and we don't. Another Greek thinker and mathematician, Eratosthenes, went further and managed to measure the Earth's circumference. He discovered that at noon in one Egyptian city, the Sun was directly overhead, whereas in a different city the Sun did not rise quite so high. Eratosthenes knew the distance between the two cities, measured how high in the sky the Sun rose to in each at the same time, then did some trigonometry. His method was crude, but his answer was in the right ballpark. The fact that Earth is round has been common knowledge, at least among the educated and powerful, ever since. More recently, people have gone all the way round the Earth. The Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan famously circumnavigated the Earth from 1519 to 1522, which would have been even more difficult if it had had an edge. But long before Magellan, it was obvious to observant sailors that the Earth is round. If you sail towards something tall, like a mountain, you will see the top of it appearing over the horizon before the rest of it.
teef Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) What...in the holy hell...is going on here? Edited February 27, 2018 by teef 2
nucci Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Education and science took a major step back in the dark ages.... doesn't seem to be doing too well right now either 1 minute ago, teef said: What...in the holy hell...is going on here? I have no idea... 5 hours ago, Pilsner said: As much as I respect DC Tom, I will have to veer towards your viewpoint BuffAlone on this topic over what the majority is espousing. I am not a true earther (although I have been researching the subject) and I am not a globalist. I am in search of the truth. Since I now believe that God exists, why can't there be the possibility of a form of earth that does not fit the standard issue narrative? I don't believe we ever made it to the moon. I will not go into detail as to why I believe this at this time but anyone who puts some time into researching this should come to a similar conclusion as I have made. I often times look at the moon. If for example you were inclined to hold up a balloon in your living room with all lights turned off and have a family member shine a flashlight at said balloon, what would you see? Some light reflected off of the balloon obviously but it would be hard to ignore the brightest of the light being reflected off of the center. Now if the moon was a sphere, wouldn't it reflect the sun's light in the same manner? But it does not. The moon 'reflects' light as if it were a round, flat object. You might as well hold up a round piece of paper and shine light on it. This should cause any person who pays some attention to this to go... hmmm.... The next time you have a nice view of the moon, go take a gander. edit: Argh, it pains me to even for a split second think a similar thought to Geno. Argh! You don't believe we made it to the moon, you are not sure the earth is round yet you believe there is an invisible man living above us that created everything on earth?
Coach Tuesday Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, teef said: What...in the holy hell...is going on here? This is where we're at as a society in 2018. For decades we've underinvested in education, refused to fire underperforming teachers, and have permitted (through moral relativism and other questionable doctrines) unscientific "beliefs" to compete on an equal playing field against cold, hard, empirical evidence. Now we're saddled with millions of semi-literate voters who will believe anything they semi-read on the internet. The conditions were set up for external manipulation via fake news - whether or not that actually happened/caused a particular result, there is no question that America is, well, just plain stupid, and readily susceptible to "alternative facts" such as "the moon landing was faked" and "the Earth is flat." We've collectively gotten dumber as a society. Edited February 27, 2018 by Coach Tuesday 2
teef Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This is where we're at as a society in 2018. For decades we've underinvested in education, refused to fire underperforming teachers, and have permitted (through moral relativism and other questionable doctrines) unscientific "beliefs" to compete on an equal playing field against cold, hard, empirical evidence. Now we're saddled millions of semi-literate voters who will believe anything they semi-read on the internet. The conditions were set up for external manipulation via fake news - whether or not that actually happened/caused a particular result, there is no question that America is, well, just plain stupid, and readily susceptible to "alternative facts" such as "the moon landing was faked" and "the Earth is flat." We've collectively gotten dumber as a society. This is a pretty badass post.
BuffAlone Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I'm sorry but... this is one of the dumbest things I've ever read, anywhere, ever, in my entire life. I'm trying hard not to attack you personally. I am hoping you don't actually believe in this "argument." I do. Its true. The varying accounts are very easily found on google or youtube. Straight from the horse's mouth. Why should I not take them for their word? You can attack me all ya want, Im just speaking the truth of what I've seen with my own eyes 2 minutes ago, teef said: This is a pretty badass post. Coach, I am an educated man. Unlike most people who read their history books as absolute truth, I prefer to take ALL available information to make an educated and informed opinion of things. I didnt just see some random clip on youtube and buy into it lmao 1 1
Coach Tuesday Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I do. Its true. The varying accounts are very easily found on google or youtube. Straight from the horse's mouth. Why should I not take them for their word? You can attack me all ya want, Im just speaking the truth of what I've seen with my own eyes Coach, I am an educated man. Unlike most people who read their history books as absolute truth, I prefer to take ALL available information to make an educated and informed opinion of things. I didnt just see some random clip on youtube and buy into it lmao You've "seen with your own eyes" pictures of the Earth taken from outer space, and you've concluded that they must be "artist renditions" because they don't look similar to one another? And you've sprung from that (flawed) conclusion to even flimsier ones, i.e., that the Earth might be flat and the moon landing was phony? Do I have that right? If I do, if you're indeed "educated," our education system is a disaster.
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffAlone said: Thats odd then because mariners right up untill the 15-1600's feared falling off the edge of the Earth... No, they didn't. Your second-grade teacher lied to you. 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Education and science took a major step back in the dark ages.... Only in Europe. 2
DC Tom Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 50 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I do. Its true. The varying accounts are very easily found on google or youtube. Straight from the horse's mouth. Why should I not take them for their word? You can attack me all ya want, Im just speaking the truth of what I've seen with my own eyes Coach, I am an educated man. Unlike most people who read their history books as absolute truth, I prefer to take ALL available information to make an educated and informed opinion of things. I didnt just see some random clip on youtube and buy into it lmao Yes, you're very open-minded. The problem is that you're an idiot, which makes open-mindedness problematic, since you end up believing the dumbest !@#$ing things you hear. 2
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