Misterbluesky Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm pretty sure a medical evaluation will be enough to hold him longer, but this isn't over by a long shot.... Oh I know,it's not over.Sadly,people in his state of mind usually end up doing what they intended to do.My sister got very,very sad and she had a great life..we lost her to suicide..all of the help in the world couldn't get her to keep living. 3
BillsFan130 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The !@#$ this have to do with the NFL? he's been out of the league for 3 years It’s still tied to the NFL because he was an ex NFL player and he’s calling out ex teammates. Its front topic right now on profootballtalk
Reed83HOF Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Oh I know,it's not over.Sadly,people in his state of mind usually end up doing what they intended to do.My sister got very,very sad and she had a great life..we lost her to suicide..all of the help in the world couldn't get her to keep living. I'm sorry to hear that...
boyst Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I almost think he's saying that he ISNT a coward, because only cowards take the suicide or mass shooting route. And he has not. I think he was trying to say, "I was bullied from high school all the way through the NFL. I also have a gun. But I'd never use it". But damn, that is NOT the way it comes across. Horrible execution. The imagery is just too strong. I think he's feeling as if he is a coward because you didn't stand up for himself and all of this initially began and he is feeling as if he should have done more to protect himself. I hope this guy gets help, it's been clear for a while that he needs it 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Oh I know,it's not over.Sadly,people in his state of mind usually end up doing what they intended to do.My sister got very,very sad and she had a great life..we lost her to suicide..all of the help in the world couldn't get her to keep living. I've lost many great friends to Suicide, there's nothing you can do for the ones that truly wish to end their life I'm sorry for your loss in the loss of so many with mental illnesses
Process Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Imo, if someone posts something like this, they are Extremely mentally I'll Wants someone to stop then from doing a terrible thing they are about to do He is very troubled and hope he gets the help he needs
YoloinOhio Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I almost think he's saying that he ISNT a coward, because only cowards take the suicide or mass shooting route. And he has not. I think he was trying to say, "I was bullied from high school all the way through the NFL. I also have a gun. But I'd never use it". But damn, that is NOT the way it comes across. Horrible execution. The imagery is just too strong. Oh, yeah I can see that now. It’s definitely hard to interpret
Royale with Cheese Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Process said: Imo, if someone posts something like this, they are Extremely mentally I'll Wants someone to stop then from doing a terrible thing they are about to do He is very troubled and hope he gets the help he needs I'm thinking he did it on purpose to get help. When you go to the social media with this type of post...it will go viral. Maybe this is his cry for help. 1
Misterbluesky Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, DC Grid said: Richie may be a bit of a handful, but context clues are starting to add up. It’s telling none of his Fins teammates ever stood up for Martin....heck one stood up for Hernandez. It’s further telling that Martin seems to have a clear complex where everyone is a bully to him. I’m sure it’s disturbing for Richie to see his name next to a gun like that....but hopefully he sees this post for what it is, vindication...as clearly Martin is crazy. To call him crazy is wrong.obviously he is crying out for help...don't try to judge a person that suffers from depression/mental illness without knowing all the facts..which you don't. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh, yeah I can see that now. It’s definitely hard to interpret Yeah, regardless of his intent, the fact that its so unclear is almost even more troubling. If you can't make a clear statement on something like this, there is a big problem in cognitive ability.
Jauronimo Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, regardless of his intent, the fact that its so unclear is almost even more troubling. If you can't make a clear statement on something like this, there is a big problem in cognitive ability. He said there are two ways out: suicide or revenge. Either way looks like he intends to use that gun. I don't see any ambiguity or reluctance to use that gun. Looks like the only question left is who its pointed at.
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Conservative thinking: "Let's give all these NFL players guns now to protect themselves from other retired/bullied players." LOL Edited February 23, 2018 by QuoteTheRaven83 3
DrDawkinstein Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Jauronimo said: He said there are two ways out: suicide or revenge. Either way looks like he intends to use that gun. I don't see any ambiguity or reluctance to use that gun. Looks like the only question left is who its pointed at. Read the whole sentence, not just the last part. The qualifiers are important. "When you are a bully victim AND A COWARD, your options are suicide or revenge". That's a hard AND statement. If he just said "When you are a bully victim, your options are suicide or revenge" that would be different. But who knows. I'm just trying to figure out this puzzle.
Kmart128 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: To call him crazy is wrong.obviously he is crying out for help...don't try to judge a person that suffers from depression/mental illness without knowing all the facts..which you don't. He threatened the lives of his teammates and children... He is crazy.
Royale with Cheese Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Read the whole sentence, not just the last part. The qualifiers are important. "When you are a bully victim AND A COWARD, your options are suicide or revenge". That's a hard AND statement. If he just said "When you are a bully victim, your options are suicide or revenge" that would be different. But who knows. I'm just trying to figure out this puzzle. The fact that the post leaves the audience debating the message means the execution was just awful. Shouldn't be left to interpret. The message should have been like the instant replay overturn rules.....clear and obvious. 1
Kwai San Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 I dunno - something doesn't ring right about this whole thing. At least he has someone looking after him now. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes now. In this day and age threatening a school directly or indirectly will NOT be looked upon kindly. AT. ALL. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: To call him crazy is wrong.obviously he is crying out for help...don't try to judge a person that suffers from depression/mental illness without knowing all the facts..which you don't. We know one fact. He posted a pic of a gun with words "suicide" and "revenge" in it. I think he might be crying for help as well but there are more sane ways of doing it.
Kmart128 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said: Conservative thinking: "Let's give all these NFL players guns now to protect themselves from other retired/bullied players." LOL Liberal thinking: "Let's just ban retired/bullied players from getting a shotgun and hope they don't get their hands on one." LOL 4 1 1
Steptide Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, KDS73 said: An obvious cry for help. Yes and obviously his issues run deep. I understand incognito may have been at fault when that whole thing went down, but it's starting to look like this guy is all out of whack. You don't do this kind of thing as a full grown adult and not have a few screws loose
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