Doc Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: For sure. Availability and demand are the two dominant market forces, and they're both influenced primarily by the pharmaceutical industry. The demand is primarily from patients who are in pain, for whatever. And restricting them will probably only lead to more street-drug use because the demand will still be there (if not great since they're not getting prescription pain meds anymore) and they're more readily available from the street.
boyst Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: No dude, you're the one being either purposely obtuse or downright clueless. There is an opioid epidemic going on. You're talking about it being ok to "execute" drug dealers - you need to follow that argument to its (more) extreme conclusions. So, we should execute big pharma? You're as ridiculous and clueless as they come here. I'm awaiting a hashtag. Your excusal of drug dealers because of a legit opiod crisis creating demand is the most foolish argument I've seen on this board including Tiberius level debates. This argument that drug dealers are bad has nothing to do with big pharma or even drug users. That you cannot see that is tragic. Drug dealers should be drug in the streets, shot and thrown in bottomless pits. I'll pull the trigger.
Coach Tuesday Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: So, we should execute big pharma? You're as ridiculous and clueless as they come here. I'm awaiting a hashtag. Your excusal of drug dealers because of a legit opiod crisis creating demand is the most foolish argument I've seen on this board including Tiberius level debates. This argument that drug dealers are bad has nothing to do with big pharma or even drug users. That you cannot see that is tragic. Drug dealers should be drug in the streets, shot and thrown in bottomless pits. I'll pull the trigger.
GoBills808 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: You need to learn to construct an argument. This is the laziest and most I'll formed argument possibly ever made. Drug dealers are acceptable and should be tolerated because they were bred by big pharma. That's a level of ridiculousness I hope no one should ever make an attempt to understand. Sorry, this is just terrible. It's not even an argument at this point my man, it's simply fact. The opioid epidemic is a direct result of overzealous prescriptions and a glut in supply, both of which are the purview of big pharma. Now I certainly never said drug dealers are acceptable or should be tolerated. I don't know where you got that from. My point was that a cursory understanding of economic forces makes it very apparent where this crises originated. 2 minutes ago, Doc said: The demand is primarily from patients who are in pain, for whatever. And restricting them will probably only lead to more street-drug use because the demand will still be there (if not great since they're not getting prescription pain meds anymore) and they're more readily available from the street. Yep, and those who have developed dependencies and are no longer able to get prescriptions, and those who simply developed a painkiller addiction due to their previous widespread availability. 1
LABILLBACKER Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Why would it? Drug dealers deserve no luxuries, benefits of doubt or slack. There is absolutely no political statement about that. I'd be fine if they were all eliminated because the dealers have no excuse for their choice. Drug users and most every other criminal can claim reasons for their choices including mentally handicapped, severe poverty, etc. Drug dealers are slime. But, yeah, I'm 100% the same in person as I am here. A complete merciless !@#$. you gotta love B62. Calls it how he sees it.
Misterbluesky Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Amazing the things people will say on a message board. Odds are Eddins most likely eliminated a guy or two during his drug lord days.what goes around,comes around.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Leave it to the Bills board to make drug dealers being murdered into an issue of morality. Its like now we can't talk politics, abortion, religion. or drug trafficking...'or is Tyrod really the problem?'.
boyst Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It's not even an argument at this point my man, it's simply fact. The opioid epidemic is a direct result of overzealous prescriptions and a glut in supply, both of which are the purview of big pharma. Now I certainly never said drug dealers are acceptable or should be tolerated. I don't know where you got that from. My point was that a cursory understanding of economic forces makes it very apparent where this crises originated. Yep, and those who have developed dependencies and are no longer able to get prescriptions, and those who simply developed a painkiller addiction due to their previous widespread availability. Okay... What you're saying is apples and oranges, I can't help it neither one of you have the intellect to understand that. By making these type of a sortation that you attempt to make you're excusing a drug dealers action.
Mr. WEO Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Doc said: The demand is primarily from patients who are in pain, for whatever. And restricting them will probably only lead to more street-drug use because the demand will still be there (if not great since they're not getting prescription pain meds anymore) and they're more readily available from the street. This is true. "Big pharma" doesn't hand out narcotics. They are prescribed to patients by medical providers. As prescription narcotics become harder to come by, people are OD'ing on heroin.
GoBills808 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: Okay... What you're saying is apples and oranges, I can't help it neither one of you have the intellect to understand that. By making these type of a sortation that you attempt to make you're excusing a drug dealers action. You're misunderstanding me. My first comment was in response to you questioning what big pharma had to do with street drug dealers. I answered, 'everything'. Nowhere in any of the subsequent posts was an excuse for a drug dealer's actions made...don't confuse explaining with condoning. I don't, at all. This is a pretty good paper on the origins of the opioid epidemic in North America: http://www.painphysicianjournal.com/current/pdf?article=MTcwNA==&journal=68 Drug dealers=bad.
boyst Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You're misunderstanding me. My first comment was in response to you questioning what big pharma had to do with street drug dealers. I answered, 'everything'. Nowhere in any of the subsequent posts was an excuse for a drug dealer's actions made...don't confuse explaining with condoning. I don't, at all. This is a pretty good paper on the origins of the opioid epidemic in North America: http://www.painphysicianjournal.com/current/pdf?article=MTcwNA==&journal=68 Drug dealers=bad. I honestly don't give a **** about pharmaceuticals. They're not doing anything illegal nor they doing anything else but simply being a capitalist. What someone chooses to do by abusing whatever they want to abused... You should understand my point from there. Drug dealers have nothing to do with big Pharmaceuticals. Coach Tuesday was upset because I simply said that drug dealers deserve no mercy, fear does not exist in this dojo. For that reason I am perfectly fine if we execute drug dealers on the the side of the road to feed the birds
GoBills808 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Boyst62 said: I honestly don't give a **** about pharmaceuticals. They're not doing anything illegal nor they doing anything else but simply being a capitalist. What someone chooses to do by abusing whatever they want to abused... You should understand my point from there. Drug dealers have nothing to do with big Pharmaceuticals. Coach Tuesday was upset because I simply said that drug dealers deserve no mercy, fear does not exist in this dojo. For that reason I am perfectly fine if we execute drug dealers on the the side of the road to feed the birds Oooooo you wanna take this to PPP??? Two men enter...and then write comments back and forth!!!!!!! LETS DO THIS MAKE IT SO 1
Royale with Cheese Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, ddaryl said: I'd buy myself some cocaine FA combine and the draft can not get here fast enogh if this board is going ot be littered with these posts "Some" cocaine? 1
NewEra Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Someone who breaks the law as a predator to exploit another person's illness is ok by you and deserves tolerance? How is that rational? You said someone who sells a dime bag of weed deserves to die. Weed is legal in many states. It’s going to be legal in many more. Someone who buys weed isn’t “ill”. This is just an unbelievable conversation.. I respect your knowledge of the Bills and football......but man, that’s just insane. Literally, “someone who sells a dime bag of weed deserves to die”.- Boyst
GoBills808 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: "Some" cocaine? 'All the cocaine'.
boyst Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: You said someone who sells a dime bag of weed deserves to die. Weed is legal in many states. It’s going to be legal in many more. Someone who buys weed isn’t “ill”. This is just an unbelievable conversation.. I respect your knowledge of the Bills and football......but man, that’s just insane. Literally, “someone who sells a dime bag of weed deserves to die”.- Boyst If it must be made clear than I am speaking of a drug dealer when regarding selling weed. And as far as I know, it is still illegal. It is still a multibillion-dollar criminal activity across this country whether you like it or not. And I am all for legalization of all drugs. But that does not take away from the fact that drug dealers deserve nothing. 15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Oooooo you wanna take this to PPP??? Two men enter...and then write comments back and forth!!!!!!! LETS DO THIS MAKE IT SO Go ahead, I would just repeat the same things I'm saying here with more colorful verbiage
BigBuff423 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Why would it? Drug dealers deserve no luxuries, benefits of doubt or slack. There is absolutely no political statement about that. I'd be fine if they were all eliminated because the dealers have no excuse for their choice. Drug users and most every other criminal can claim reasons for their choices including mentally handicapped, severe poverty, etc. Drug dealers are slime. But, yeah, I'm 100% the same in person as I am here. A complete merciless !@#$. I know it won’t change your mind, or influence your thought process, but just as an added piece of information. Without getting into how I know or where my insight comes from, at least in Central New York (Syracuse-Utica-Herkimer corridor) a large majority of those people pushing narcotics and marijuana at a felony level are also using a narcotic. What they do is sell enough to cover the cost of their addiction. Additionally most property related offenses that bring defendants into a drug related diversion program are due to a substance abuse problem.
NewEra Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: If it must be made clear than I am speaking of a drug dealer when regarding selling weed. And as far as I know, it is still illegal. It is still a multibillion-dollar criminal activity across this country whether you like it or not. And I am all for legalization of all drugs. But that does not take away from the fact that drug dealers deserve nothing. Go ahead, I would just repeat the same things I'm saying here with more colorful verbiage Lots of things are illegal. That’s why there are fines, jails, prisons, probation etc.... not death. Pretty sure you’ve done SOMETHING illegal and didn’t deserve to be executed for it. I take exception to the remark that someone who sells a dime bag deserves to be killed. You did say that. No, I’ve never sold a dime bag. 1
BuffAlone Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyst62 said: So, we should execute big pharma? You're as ridiculous and clueless as they come here. I'm awaiting a hashtag. Your excusal of drug dealers because of a legit opiod crisis creating demand is the most foolish argument I've seen on this board including Tiberius level debates. This argument that drug dealers are bad has nothing to do with big pharma or even drug users. That you cannot see that is tragic. Drug dealers should be drug in the streets, shot and thrown in bottomless pits. I'll pull the trigger. Yeah, better to be a Killer than sell some weed to acquaintances. Lmfao. You are EXACTLY the mindset of what "drug" this nation down.
boyst Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Yeah, better to be a Killer than sell some weed to acquaintances. Lmfao. You are EXACTLY the mindset of what "drug" this nation down. Your argument is They are mutually inclusive? Interesting. And stupid. 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Lots of things are illegal. That’s why there are fines, jails, prisons, probation etc.... not death. Pretty sure you’ve done SOMETHING illegal and didn’t deserve to be executed for it. I take exception to the remark that someone who sells a dime bag deserves to be killed. You did say that. No, I’ve never sold a dime bag. I am far from perfect. I'm just handsome, smart, charming, funny, humble, charismatic. But, it takes a special kind of !@#$ to sell drugs to an addict.
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