thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, LA Grant said: Mm, not quite. Sure, the sentiment of the right accusing the left of being disingenuous is "consistent" but that doesn't mean stealing the phrasing and structure isn't "plagiarism." Look, it's not like I'm expecting you're going to admit that you've been merely parroting the NRA's position. You couldn't admit that your argument was dismantled. Hell, you can't even admit to yourself what your own position is. It's funny: the only things that bother you are the things that directly, personally affect you. You're more horrified at being called names than mass shootings because one affects you and the other doesn't. I know the word "libertarianism" sounds cool & smart but that's the core of your dumbass beliefs. Back to the plagiarism thing, the issue that's really got you bothered. Go ahead & show me "one whit" of evidence of that quote, that you passed off as your own thought, being used before LaPierre said it. "Sources or GTFO." Oh it’s from the “handbook” for sure. 1
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, LA Grant said: You realize that not all people who own guns oppose restrictions, right? Gun restrictions clearly work. See: a mountain of evidence, already posted in this thread by me, multiple times, data that's been established and available for years. You. Just. Don't. Want. To. Hear. It. Another common & very lame excuse. The same stupid logic works the other way. If AR-15s can be bought as long as you're 18 w/ no convictions, why can't the same kid also buy a grenade launcher or a land mine? Why can't I bear those arms? I need them for hunting and to protect my family. See above. There's a million reasons this is incredibly stupid — go ahead and list all of the mass killings perpetrated with ice picks. Also, those other tools have other utility besides murder. Guns can't open your mail. Well, not efficiently, anyway. No they don't.
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: No they don't. Doesn’t work in Canada? How about Australia? 1
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: No they don't. Grant's "mountain of evidence " is repeating the same **** over and over. He thinks that if you are louder than the other person you naturally win the battle.
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Grant's "mountain of evidence " is repeating the same **** over and over. He thinks that if you are louder than the other person you naturally win the battle. It is definitely tiring repeating myself, but what can I do? Your learning disability necessitates it. The majority supports stronger control measures: https://morningconsult.com/2018/02/22/support-gun-control-following-florida-shooting-matches-las-vegas-aftermath/ https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/voters-support-tougher-gun-control-after-florida-shooting-quinnipiac-poll.html https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/11/gun-control-vegas-polls-243647 Because there's tons of data https://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/9444417/gun-violence-united-states-america https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/15/so-america-this-is-how-you-do-gun-control And we've known it for decades https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3591&context=uclrev But 'round and 'round we go on the carousel of needless gun violence, because people like yourself simply refuse to consider the NRA maybe doesn't actually have society's best interests in mind. Maybe — juuuust maybe — they're advocates for loose gun laws for a selfish reason?? Nah. Couldn't be!
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, LA Grant said: Mm, not quite. Sure, the sentiment of the right accusing the left of being disingenuous is "consistent" but that doesn't mean stealing the phrasing and structure isn't "plagiarism." Look, it's not like I'm expecting you're going to admit that you've been merely parroting the NRA's position. You couldn't admit that your argument was dismantled. Hell, you can't even admit to yourself what your own position is. It's funny: the only things that bother you are the things that directly, personally affect you. You're more horrified at being called names than mass shootings because one affects you and the other doesn't. I know the word "libertarianism" sounds cool & smart but that's the core of your dumbass beliefs. Back to the plagiarism thing, the issue that's really got you bothered. Go ahead & show me "one whit" of evidence of that quote, that you passed off as your own thought, being used before LaPierre said it. "Sources or GTFO." You are truly an idiot. Tasker is a thoughtful poster. I don't always agree with him and we've taken a swing or two at each other over the years, but he's real and doesn't need to plagiarize anyone. Did you actually think that you, with your obvious mental shortcomings could come in here and even take a rook? You've been shut out, in chess, and I think that may be the first time that it has ever happened. Anywhere. In this world. Even if they played chess on Mars.
4merper4mer Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, thebug said: Once again, you don’t get it. Canadians can't afford apostrophes? 1
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: You are truly an idiot. Tasker is a thoughtful poster. I don't always agree with him and we've taken a swing or two at each other over the years, but he's real and doesn't need to plagiarize anyone. Did you actually think that you, with your obvious mental shortcomings could come in here and even take a rook? You've been shut out, in chess, and I think that may be the first time that it has ever happened. Anywhere. In this world. Even if they played chess on Mars. You are such a douche. You preach about calling people names yet you do it to anyone who disagrees with you, under the false pretences of them being stupid. Maybe it’s you? 1
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You are truly an idiot. Tasker is a thoughtful poster. I don't always agree with him and we've taken a swing or two at each other over the years, but he's real and doesn't need to plagiarize anyone. Did you actually think that you, with your obvious mental shortcomings could come in here and even take a rook? You've been shut out, in chess, and I think that may be the first time that it has ever happened. Anywhere. In this world. Even if they played chess on Mars. I'm sorry your friend was embarrassed but it doesn't make his argument work better. Post count might beat logic in the other PPP threads, so my apologies for not falling in line. BS is BS, plain and simple. 1
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Canadians can't afford apostrophes? !@#$ you clowns are stupid. Follow along morons! Read the previous posts and get the joke.
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, thebug said: You are such a douche. You preach about calling people names yet you do it to anyone who disagrees with you, under the false pretences of them being stupid. Maybe it’s you? No, it's you acting as an idiot. I don't call people names until they have proven that they deserve those names. Sometimes those names are complimentary, because they have proven themselves worthy of those names.
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: No, it's you acting as an idiot. I don't call people names until they have proven that they deserve those names. Sometimes those names are complimentary, because they have proven themselves worthy of those names. Ok, cool, you are a !@#$tard. I have proof. 1
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, thebug said: !@#$ you clowns are stupid. Follow along morons! Read the previous posts and get the joke. Haha don't sweat 'im. The right doesn't really "get" jokes; you have to first have a basic understanding of logic before you can play with it, and the entire "conservative philosophy," if you can even call it a philosophy, is so full of holes and contradictions that it's clear logic isn't their strong suit. It's why there's no funny Republicans and the best attempts at conservative humor are the horrible memes B-Man posts in other threads, Mike Huckabee's nonsensical twitter, and LABillzFan randomly saying "Hillary." 1
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, thebug said: Doesn’t work in Canada? How about Australia? How does Australia differ from the US in geography? How does Australia differ from the US in guns per capita? How does Australia differ from the US in illegal gun numbers? This is why the gun ban arguments suck. Well, that and the pesky thing called the Second Amendment! 14 minutes ago, LA Grant said: It is definitely tiring repeating myself, but what can I do? Your learning disability necessitates it. The majority supports stronger control measures: https://morningconsult.com/2018/02/22/support-gun-control-following-florida-shooting-matches-las-vegas-aftermath/ https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/voters-support-tougher-gun-control-after-florida-shooting-quinnipiac-poll.html https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/11/gun-control-vegas-polls-243647 Because there's tons of data https://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/9444417/gun-violence-united-states-america https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/15/so-america-this-is-how-you-do-gun-control And we've known it for decades https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3591&context=uclrev But 'round and 'round we go on the carousel of needless gun violence, because people like yourself simply refuse to consider the NRA maybe doesn't actually have society's best interests in mind. Maybe — juuuust maybe — they're advocates for loose gun laws for a selfish reason?? Nah. Couldn't be! Does the majority know the meaning of "Shall not be infringed?"
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: How does Australia differ from the US in geography? How does Australia differ from the US in guns per capita? How does Australia differ from the US in illegal gun numbers? This is why the gun ban arguments suck. Well, that and the pesky thing called the Second Amendment! Does the majority know the meaning of "Shall not be infringed?" The difference is way less people die. I see see no mention of Canada? Edited February 25, 2018 by thebug
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, thebug said: Ok, cool, you are a !@#$tard. I have proof. 1 minute ago, LA Grant said: Haha don't sweat 'im. The right doesn't really "get" jokes; you have to first have a basic understanding of logic before you can play with it, and the entire "conservative philosophy," if you can even call it a philosophy, is so full of holes and contradictions that it's clear logic isn't their strong suit. It's why there's no funny Republicans and the best attempts at conservative humor are the horrible memes B-Man posts in other threads, Mike Huckabee's nonsensical twitter, and LABillzFan randomly saying "Hillary." Is the $75 a week that the Russians are paying you for this sh it really worth it? You do know that if you moved in together those ramen noodles would last a lot longer.
BringBackOrton Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, thebug said: The difference is way less people die. That's not the only difference. Correlation does not equal causation.
thebug Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Is the $75 a week that the Russians are paying you for this sh it really worth it? You do know that if you moved in together those ramen noodles would last a lot longer. I charge 65.00 per hour so I had to turn down the Russians.
LA Grant Posted February 25, 2018 Author Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: How does Australia differ from the US in geography? How does Australia differ from the US in guns per capita? How does Australia differ from the US in illegal gun numbers? This is why the gun ban arguments suck. Well, that and the pesky thing called the Second Amendment! Does the majority know the meaning of "Shall not be infringed?" a) The reason the "gun control won't work in the US" doesn't fly is because it has literally never been tried. Not on a national level, not comparable to preventive measures similar to DMV, etc etc etc, I've said all this already. Page one. By the way, your response to this will be "What about Chicago" so let's save us both a step and refute you now: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/glanton/ct-met-gun-control-chicago-dahleen-glanton-20171003-story.html https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555580598/fact-check-is-chicago-proof-that-gun-laws-don-t-work b) The "shall not be infringed" does not work because it's already infringed. You can't own a land mine, which is an Arm. You can own a grenade launcher, but you need background checks, license, registration. If you agree that's a necessary limitation for grenade launchers, it should be easy to agree it's also a necessary limitation for all Arms, assuming that you agree mass shootings are a problem (I know you personally do not, you've already said that you consider those to be acceptable casualties, but if 'you' were reasonable, you might agree it's a problem). If you think there should be no limitations on any Amendments, then you also think there should be no limitations on the First Amendment. This would mean you disagree with the Supreme Court's decisions to ban all sorts of speech under 1A, including child pornography, libel, slander, etc. Therefore, your arguments that guns should not be restricted also means you are arguing that child pornography should not be restricted. If this is your belief, then you should state it as such. If it is not your belief, you should try to untangle this contradiction in your mind and figure out what it is that you actually believe. Try to do better than "i like guns, they keep me free, don't tread on me." Understand? Of course you don't. You're just parroting catch phrases. I'm arguing with a parrot. Edited February 25, 2018 by LA Grant
3rdnlng Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, thebug said: I charge 65.00 per hour so I had to turn down the Russians. From what I've heard, they come like really quick, so you might want to reconsider. I can see a lot of $1000 days in your future.
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