Reed83HOF Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, mrags said: I’d definately go with the 900f over the 900e too. The problem is the 900f is $3999 for the 75” and the 900e is $2499 for the 75”. The 900f is replacing the 940e. So yeah, I’d rather have the F but for the price, I just don’t know how. The updates for only the apps and not the inputs is an issue. And that brings me back to the Samsung Q7 now because the separate box for all their inputs can be replaced in the future. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!! This is a never ending revolving door or crap now. Which tv are you talking about in regards to playing around with the black levels compared to the LED? The Samsung? Yaah, I know the 900e isn’t close to the Z9 but for that price I just don’t think I can do it The Sony's beat the sh!t out of the Samsung honestly. I had $1200 worth of Samsung gift cert's for TVs as well, bought a $600 55" for my bedroom and gave the other $600 to my sister. My original intent was to just get a Sammy, but as I researched and went to see. I couldn't pull the trigger for it to be my main TV. Going down this rabbit hole resulted in me only wanting to spend about $1500 of my own money to spending $3499 + $300 tax for the Z9 and the Oppo... I agree with Alaska, the Android Operating system needs some love, but I am used to it now, so not a big issue. Black Levels: "Outside these challenging if infrequent examples, the Bravia KD-65ZD9 put up a credible fight against OLED in the black level department. Helped by 648-zone local dimming and exemplary halo suppression, the Sony managed to hold its own in this shot containing a bright logo surrounded by black backdrop: Where the ZD9 edged ahead of the OLED was in the area just above black. As Sandra Bullock was hurling through space in Gravity, her silhouette appeared more distinct against the night sky, even if the LG OLED rendered the stars brighter and the blacks deeper. To reveal similar amounts of shadow detail, the LG’s [Brightness] and gamma would have to be adjusted to such an extent that the 0 cd/m2 blacks were ruined, or near-black artefacts were harshly exposed. The Sony 65ZD9 also handled above-black region in a cleaner fashion than the LG OLED. In Skyfall (one of the best Blu-ray transfers of all time), the LG delivered the sequence where Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem) approached the chapel with more depth and dimensionality, but we could see the pixels dancing away in the night sky, whereas it looked more stable and less noisy on the Sony." http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kd65zd9-201610164372.htm Btw - not trying to steer you one way or the other, just trying to share what I went through and my thoughts at that time... Edited February 28, 2018 by Reed83HOF
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrags said: I’d definately go with the 900f over the 900e too. The problem is the 900f is $3999 for the 75” and the 900e is $2499 for the 75”. The 900f is replacing the 940e. So yeah, I’d rather have the F but for the price, I just don’t know how. The updates for only the apps and not the inputs is an issue. And that brings me back to the Samsung Q7 now because the separate box for all their inputs can be replaced in the future. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!! This is a never ending revolving door or crap now. Which tv are you talking about in regards to playing around with the black levels compared to the LED? The Samsung? Yaah, I know the 900e isn’t close to the Z9 but for that price I just don’t think I can do it Wow. That's a massive difference in price. I just can't justify spending that on a tv, especially when new technology is constantly coming out (which is another reason I'm looking at smaller tv sizes - more bang for your buck). Honestly, if you're deadset on the 75" I'd just get that 900e. I've read a lot of articles saying that was one of the best LED TVs of 2017 and I've read a lot of great reviews by people who own them. It will still have HDR through the HDMI inputs (inputs 2 and 3 IIRC), just not Dolby vision (I doubt it'll be that big of a difference, I want it more to future proof myself is all). They are getting, or already got, an update to upgrade to HDR10, so I'm sure they're still going to have kick ass HDR. As as I mentioned in my other post, I've owned Sony TVs for well over a decade. I bought one of their first flat screen crt TVs (Sony Bravia) and I've been a Sony guy ever since. Currently i I have the Sony Bravia XBR6 55" 1080p tv and I swear to you that it looks as good or better than most of the 1080p TVs I see in the store today, and I think it actually looks better than some of the cheaper 4K TVs too TBH. My XBR6 came out in 2008 IIRC. So about 10 years old now, and it's gotten tons of use gaming, watching tv, movies, blue ray etc. and it still kicks ass. Edit - was just thinking about what you mentioned about the Samsung. wanted to mention that the Dolby vision thing doesn't really have anything to do with the actual HDMI inputs on the Sony tv's. They still support hdr. The 900e's chip just doesn't support Dolby vision. And the 900f will receive a firmware update with Dolby vision. The only thing off hand that that I can think of that the Samsung hdmi box would be good for is hdmi 2.1. But the thing is that q7 wouldn't support all the features hdmi 2.1 has anyway. 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: So what you are saying about the 900f, is exactly why I went with the Z9d. There will be a software update for Dolby Vision to work on the Z9d via HDMI & USB, but as of now it looks like it will rely on the 3rd pparty hardware manufacturers to help. Thankfully Oppo (which is an amazing player btw.) is all on top of this and as of now Dolby Vision isn't a huge problem at all... " “In January 2018, Sony will release a software update enabling Dolby Vision on select TV models (U.S. model series: Z9D, A1E, X930E, X940E). After the Sony TV receives the software update, devices with Dolby Vision playback (such as streaming media players and UHD Blu-Ray players) that are connected to the Sony TV by HDMI will also require a software update to support Dolby Vision playback through the device. For more information on the timing of a software update for your device, please contact the player device manufacturer.” " Finally, let’s turn to Oppo’s succinct but fortunately promising response: “OPPO is working with Dolby and [chip maker] MTK to overcome this issue. We do not have a timescale as to when we will have a fix, but it is a priority.” So the good news here is that Oppo is clearly committed to delivering the necessary update to make its 4K Blu-ray players compatible with Sony’s DV TVs. The bad news is that it’s a collaborative process that appears to still be in its relatively early stages, with no ‘end date’ in sight. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2018/01/24/sony-tv-dolby-vision-problem-update-sony-and-oppo-respond/#17449a25498a You are a smart person and entirely correct. I would be itching for anything over 75" inches next time and those friggin TVs get crazy expensive at that point.... Yeah it sounds like Sony did a horrible job rolling out their Dolby vision update. It makes me just a little hesitant to buy one right now. Sounds like they still don't have it worked out even on the new 2018 models that will be released in a couple weeks. Im not even sure how many things I'd watch, or games I'd play, that have Dolby vision yet anyway. As long as I can still run my Xbox with hdr Iim sure I'd be happy. Im not going to lie, I'm a bit jealous you got that z9d. That's been the tv I wanted for a while now. I just can't bring myself to spend almost $4k for a 55" tv. It is an absolutely amazing tv though. Edited February 28, 2018 by BillsFan4
Reed83HOF Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Wow. That's a massive difference in price. I just can't justify spending that on a tv, especially when new technology is constantly coming out (which is another reason I'm looking at smaller tv sizes - more bang for your buck). Honestly, if you're deadset on the 75" I'd just get that 900e. I've read a lot of articles saying that was one of the best LED TVs of 2017 and I've read a lot of great reviews by people who own them. It will still have HDR through the HDMI inputs (inputs 2 and 3 IIRC), just not Dolby vision (I doubt it'll be that big of a difference, I want it more to future proof myself is all). They are getting, or already got, an update to upgrade to HDR10, so I'm sure they're still going to have kick ass HDR. As as I mentioned in my other post, I've owned Sony TVs for well over a decade. I bought one of their first flat screen crt TVs (Sony Bravia) and I've been a Sony guy ever since. Currently i I have the Sony Bravia XBR6 55" 1080p tv and I swear to you that it looks as good or better than most of the 1080p TVs I see in the store today, and I think it actually looks better than some of the cheaper 4K TVs too TBH. My XBR6 came out in 2008 IIRC. So about 10 years old now, and it's gotten tons of use gaming, watching tv, movies, blue ray etc. and it still kicks ass. Yeah it sounds like Sony did a horrible job rolling out their Dolby vision update. It makes me just a little hesitant to buy one right now. Sounds like they still don't have it worked out even on the new 2018 models that will be released in a couple weeks. Im not even sure how many things I'd watch, or games I'd play, that have Dolby vision yet anyway. As long as I can still run my Xbox with hdr Iim sure I'd be happy. Im not going to lie, I'm a bit jealous you got that z9d. That's been the tv I wanted for a while now. I just can't bring myself to spend almost $4k for a 55" tv. It is an absolutely amazing tv though. I upgraded from a Sony KDL-55hx800 which honestly was a great TV, but I just felt it was time. I still can't believe I spent what I did on this TV (it is 65" btw), but it is the most amazing piece of technology I have ever bought. Video Games are amazing (even madden looks amazing), 4K movies (especially Deadpool & The Revanent), 3D is the best I have ever seen. I'm actually glad I didn't cheap out for once and got what I really wanted. (Not saying you are - just finally said F' it and lets do it). My rationalization was based on keeping it for 5 years and I was all in for about $3900, which over 5 years works out to about $65/ month or about $2.13/day. I might be an idiot, but that is how I sold it to the misses and myself! Edited February 28, 2018 by Reed83HOF
mrags Posted February 28, 2018 Author Posted February 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Wow. That's a massive difference in price. I just can't justify spending that on a tv, especially when new technology is constantly coming out (which is another reason I'm looking at smaller tv sizes - more bang for your buck). Honestly, if you're deadset on the 75" I'd just get that 900e. I've read a lot of articles saying that was one of the best LED TVs of 2017 and I've read a lot of great reviews by people who own them. It will still have HDR through the HDMI inputs (inputs 2 and 3 IIRC), just not Dolby vision (I doubt it'll be that big of a difference, I want it more to future proof myself is all). They are getting, or already got, an update to upgrade to HDR10, so I'm sure they're still going to have kick ass HDR. As as I mentioned in my other post, I've owned Sony TVs for well over a decade. I bought one of their first flat screen crt TVs (Sony Bravia) and I've been a Sony guy ever since. Currently i I have the Sony Bravia XBR6 55" 1080p tv and I swear to you that it looks as good or better than most of the 1080p TVs I see in the store today, and I think it actually looks better than some of the cheaper 4K TVs too TBH. My XBR6 came out in 2008 IIRC. So about 10 years old now, and it's gotten tons of use gaming, watching tv, movies, blue ray etc. and it still kicks ass. Edit - was just thinking about what you mentioned about the Samsung. wanted to mention that the Dolby vision thing doesn't really have anything to do with the actual HDMI inputs on the Sony tv's. They still support hdr. The 900e's chip just doesn't support Dolby vision. And the 900f will receive a firmware update with Dolby vision. The only thing off hand that that I can think of that the Samsung hdmi box would be good for is hdmi 2.1. But the thing is that q7 wouldn't support all the features hdmi 2.1 has anyway. Yeah it sounds like Sony did a horrible job rolling out their Dolby vision update. It makes me just a little hesitant to buy one right now. Sounds like they still don't have it worked out even on the new 2018 models that will be released in a couple weeks. Im not even sure how many things I'd watch, or games I'd play, that have Dolby vision yet anyway. As long as I can still run my Xbox with hdr Iim sure I'd be happy. Im not going to lie, I'm a bit jealous you got that z9d. That's been the tv I wanted for a while now. I just can't bring myself to spend almost $4k for a 55" tv. It is an absolutely amazing tv though. That damn Reed83 is really making me feel like I need the Z9D. It’s a huge difference in price especially considering it’s the 65” vs the 75”. But after looking at it, $3499 isn’t that terrible. I just don’t know when I’ll be able to afford it. So I may hold off a little bit. End of March or beginning of April might be in the cards for me. In the end, I’ll get a chance to view the new 900F if I wait anyway. 26 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I upgraded from a Sony KDL-55hx800 which honestly was a great TV, but I just felt it was time. I still can't believe I spent what I did on this TV (it is 65" btw), but it is the most amazing piece of technology I have ever bought. Video Games are amazing (even madden looks amazing), 4K movies (especially Deadpool & The Revanent), 3D is the best I have ever seen. I'm actually glad I didn't cheap out for once and got what I really wanted. (Not saying you are - just finally said F' it and lets do it). My rationalization was based on keeping it for 5 years and I was all in for about $3900, which over 5 years works out to about $65/ month or about $2.13/day. I might be an idiot, but that is how I sold it to the misses and myself! Just stop. You sold me. Lol. Im sure my mind will change more times in the next coming days and everything but I feel like I’m gonna hold out for the Z9D and if that doesn’t actually happen, not emoney in my TV pot will have been collected and I’ll make the decision when it comes. 2
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Was just looking through info on the new technology release that this year's CES. Check this out - https://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/ces-2018-sony-showcases-next-gen-x1-ultimate-processor-for-use-in-future-lcd-oled-tvs-39022.html Quote Sony showcased its next generation pictures processors for it TVs at CES 2018. Called the X1 Ultimate, the company claims that the new processor will offer twice the real-time processing power of the X1 Extreme being using in its current lineup of TVs. The new processor will work with LCD and OLED displays, and is currently only in the prototype stage. The biggest difference between the Sony’s X1 Extreme and the X1 Ultimate processor is how both process the image. The X1 Extreme processes any content frame-by-frame. However, the X1 Ultimate is object-based. So it will render each object separately in any given frame. Doesn't sound like it'll be out until 2019 though. I'm not sure if I can wait that long. I just know I'll be pissed if I buy a tv now and then I see the same model a year later with this x1 ultimate chip that just blows my tv out of the water. lol Eh, it's kind of like that every year though. I would drive myself nuts if I always looked at the next "latest and greatest" thing to come out. Although that new chip does sound like a huge upgrade. Twice the processing power is quite a huge step up. 6 minutes ago, mrags said: That damn Reed83 is really making me feel like I need the Z9D. It’s a huge difference in price especially considering it’s the 65” vs the 75”. But after looking at it, $3499 isn’t that terrible. I just don’t know when I’ll be able to afford it. So I may hold off a little bit. End of March or beginning of April might be in the cards for me. In the end, I’ll get a chance to view the new 900F if I wait anyway. Never a bad idea to just wait if you're unsure of a purchase. There's nothing I hate more than regretting an expensive purchase, and/or feeling like I made the wrong choice. I really want that z9d too, but I just can't get over that price. Not when I can get the 55" model 1 step down for a little over $2000 less (as the z9 isn't available in 55") when all is said and done. Maybe when more content is available in 4K and HDR I'll step up to the z9. But by then OLED and/or MicroLED will probably have taken over. Although id be lying if I said I wasn't at least considering that z9d a little bit... lol. Wonder if they'll have any clearance models when the 2018 sets come out? Doubt it since I don't believe anything changed on that set for 2018.
Reed83HOF Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, mrags said: That damn Reed83 is really making me feel like I need the Z9D. It’s a huge difference in price especially considering it’s the 65” vs the 75”. But after looking at it, $3499 isn’t that terrible. I just don’t know when I’ll be able to afford it. So I may hold off a little bit. End of March or beginning of April might be in the cards for me. In the end, I’ll get a chance to view the new 900F if I wait anyway. Just stop. You sold me. Lol. Im sure my mind will change more times in the next coming days and everything but I feel like I’m gonna hold out for the Z9D and if that doesn’t actually happen, not emoney in my TV pot will have been collected and I’ll make the decision when it comes. Ha! Wasn't trying to influence you that much; I just know I drove myself and my wife nuts for a month or so. I finally realized that it just really depends on the features that mean the most to you and in the end - they are all pretty close. The side by side comparisons at best buy and AVS Forum sold me the most (Rtings didn't even review the damn TV until after I bought it...). It came down to picture quality between the Sony's and the brightness over the LG OLED; the Samsung was entirely out of the question at that point. I figured I could live without the deepest of all blacks, since you don't see total black all of the time and that is where this TV had the edge. I looked at Sony's website for authorized retailers and went through all of them for the best price, when I found Value Electronics, I called to see what they could do; and found that you can negotiate with them a bit. What worked well for me was that even though they are NYC based and I am in LA, they had the Sony distributor out here send me mine, so I had it in 2 days. Also, and I was skeptical on this, I did save extra money when I paid them by doing a straight up deposit into their bank account instead of a CC transaction...very painless. 14 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Eh, it's kind of like that every year though. I would drive myself nuts if I always looked at the next "latest and greatest" thing to come out. And that is the problem, it changes every year. In the end 4K isn't a native signal for anyone yet, so what does the latest and greatest really do for you as far as processing power? It comes down to motion handling, color output, brightness, Blacks, Halo effects etc. The small incremental changes between now and then I don't think will be huge game changers since most of the 4k standards are set and pretty much everything from z9 chipset on will handle it. The next big upgrade in about 5 years or so will be 8K, bigger screen sizes, even thinner and be somewhat like this I imagine https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-unveils-the-wall-the-worlds-first-modular-microled-146-inch-tv
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Ha! Wasn't trying to influence you that much; I just know I drove myself and my wife nuts for a month or so. I finally realized that it just really depends on the features that mean the most to you and in the end - they are all pretty close. The side by side comparisons at best buy and AVS Forum sold me the most (Rtings didn't even review the damn TV until after I bought it...). It came down to picture quality between the Sony's and the brightness over the LG OLED; the Samsung was entirely out of the question at that point. I figured I could live without the deepest of all blacks, since you don't see total black all of the time and that is where this TV had the edge. I looked at Sony's website for authorized retailers and went through all of them for the best price, when I found Value Electronics, I called to see what they could do; and found that you can negotiate with them a bit. What worked well for me was that even though they are NYC based and I am in LA, they had the Sony distributor out here send me mine, so I had it in 2 days. Also, and I was skeptical on this, I did save extra money when I paid them by doing a straight up deposit into their bank account instead of a CC transaction...very painless. And that is the problem, it changes every year. In the end 4K isn't a native signal for anyone yet, so what does the latest and greatest really do for you as far as processing power? It comes down to motion handling, color output, brightness, Blacks, Halo effects etc. The small incremental changes between now and then I don't think will be huge game changers since most of the 4k standards are set and pretty much everything from z9 chipset on will handle it. The next big upgrade in about 5 years or so will be 8K, bigger screen sizes, even thinner and be somewhat like this I imagine https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-unveils-the-wall-the-worlds-first-modular-microled-146-inch-tv The chip is what processes all of your image content, as well as what upscale to 4K. It also handles things like frame rate, and provides the processing power for numerous other processes. So I'd imagine the new chip will create a noticeable difference. Edit - I just found an article with a short little section on the x1 ultimate image compared to the current gen. chips. There's not much info out yet. https://www.techradar.com/news/sony-x1-ultimate ultimately though, I don't think I can wait till 2019. I'm driving myself nuts enough already... I've been thinking about buying one, ans reading all sorts of stuff for months now.
Reed83HOF Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: The chip is what processes all of your image content, as well as what upscale to 4K. It also handles things like frame rate, and provides the processing power for numerous other processes. So I'd imagine the new chip will create a noticeable difference. Edit - I just found an article with a short little section on the x1 ultimate image compared to the current gen. chips. There's not much info out yet. https://www.techradar.com/news/sony-x1-ultimate ultimately though, I don't think I can wait till 2019. I'm driving myself nuts enough already... I've been thinking about buying one, ans reading all sorts of stuff for months now. Shhhh...don't say that you'll make me want to upgrade again! 1
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Shhhh...don't say that you'll make me want to upgrade again! Wanna sell your z9d? ? 1
mrags Posted February 28, 2018 Author Posted February 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Wanna sell your z9d? ? Lol. Beat me to it
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) https://tvevaluate.com/sony-x900f-vs-x930e/ found an interesring article discussing the differnces between the x930e and the x900f. Sounds like the 930 might possibly be the better tv for hdr. I just looked it up - Peak brightness also also looks much brighter on the 930 vs the 900f (1400+ for the 930, and only 950 ish for the new 900). Edited February 28, 2018 by BillsFan4
eball Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 TVs are now commodities...I really think it's foolish to overspend for the "latest and greatest." Go to Costco and get whatever they're selling at the biggest size you want, download the THX Tune Up app, and you're likely to be very happy.
mrags Posted February 28, 2018 Author Posted February 28, 2018 Just pulled the trigger on the 900e. Honestly, side by side with the oled it looked better than the OLED. The blacks weren’t as dark but the brights were off the charts better. The Z9D was better. But it wasn’t clear cut from where the TVs were sitting. I was about 10-12 ft away from each tv playing the same movie and it was very close. I know side by side it’s not comparable. But if it’s hard to tell in the store with low light in the Magnolia rooms, it’s going to be hard to tell in my living room. You could see it the most in the black levels and edging. At the end end of the day I saved some money. Bought a 4K player, a few movies, new HDMI cables. Etc. 2
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Nice! For that price you couldn't go wrong. I am am sure you will love the tv. I know I told you how much I love my current Sony. Happy for you man! Did you get it at Best Buy? Which one, if you don't mind me asking? How knowledgeable were the salesmen there?
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Not sure if you're going to pay to have a professional calibration done. But Here's some different professional calibration setting I found on the x900e - https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e/settings http://best-tv-settings.com/tv-settings-sony-x900e-xe90/ https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/sony-xbr-65x900e-basic-picture-settings-and-hdr-notes/ There's plenty of videos on YouTube too.
Reed83HOF Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Congrats Dude - best thing to do is what you did! Enjoy the new set!
mrags Posted March 1, 2018 Author Posted March 1, 2018 17 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: https://tvevaluate.com/sony-x900f-vs-x930e/ found an interesring article discussing the differnces between the x930e and the x900f. Sounds like the 930 might possibly be the better tv for hdr. I just looked it up - Peak brightness also also looks much brighter on the 930 vs the 900f (1400+ for the 930, and only 950 ish for the new 900). I’m gonna say this.... now that this thing is at home I’m my living room, I feel like I need suntanning goggles to look at it. You don’t need to spend all the extra cake on the brighter 930. Just saying. Save some money and get the 900 home. Worst case, if you don’t like it you could always trade up 4 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Nice! For that price you couldn't go wrong. I am am sure you will love the tv. I know I told you how much I love my current Sony. Happy for you man! Did you get it at Best Buy? Which one, if you don't mind me asking? How knowledgeable were the salesmen there? I got it at the Best Buy at the Galleria. I went o line last night and saw there was a Z9D open box for 2399. I was intending to pull the trigger on it. Except when I got there they said they didn’t have any. Apparently it pulls up open box items to any store working 250 miles. There was one at a store about 110miles away. I kade the guy jump through hoops for me today. Had him open up a 50ft HDMI cable to compare the Z9D and the 900e on the same programming. It really was hard to tell the differences. I know the Z is much better but for the lack of absolute difference between the 2 TVs i couldn’t justify spending the extra $1k. I ended up getting a Samsung 4k player cheap and then some other stuff. Gonna upgrade my PlayStation to the pro this week or in the coming weeks with the money I saved. 2
mead107 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Congrats, can't wait for fergy, gugny, Cletus and Me to fall asleep on the couch watching it after spending hours drinking your beer in the hot tub. ???? Edited March 1, 2018 by mead107
BillsFan4 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, mrags said: I’m gonna say this.... now that this thing is at home I’m my living room, I feel like I need suntanning goggles to look at it. You don’t need to spend all the extra cake on the brighter 930. Just saying. Save some money and get the 900 home. Worst case, if you don’t like it you could always trade up I got it at the Best Buy at the Galleria. I went o line last night and saw there was a Z9D open box for 2399. I was intending to pull the trigger on it. Except when I got there they said they didn’t have any. Apparently it pulls up open box items to any store working 250 miles. There was one at a store about 110miles away. I kade the guy jump through hoops for me today. Had him open up a 50ft HDMI cable to compare the Z9D and the 900e on the same programming. It really was hard to tell the differences. I know the Z is much better but for the lack of absolute difference between the 2 TVs i couldn’t justify spending the extra $1k. I ended up getting a Samsung 4k player cheap and then some other stuff. Gonna upgrade my PlayStation to the pro this week or in the coming weeks with the money I saved. Yeah I seen that z9d too. I was gonna tell you about it but then I seen it was 100+ miles away. lol Sounds like you made the right choice. Im going to go sometimes soon to look at them again. I'll definitely give the 900e strong consideration. I like your idea of using the money saved to upgrade the PS4. I have the Xbox one S which plays in 4K (although not in native 4K), but my PS4 is just the regular one. Let me know what thr games look like in 4K HDR!
mrags Posted March 1, 2018 Author Posted March 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yeah I seen that z9d too. I was gonna tell you about it but then I seen it was 100+ miles away. lol Sounds like you made the right choice. Im going to go sometimes soon to look at them again. I'll definitely give the 900e strong consideration. I like your idea of using the money saved to upgrade the PS4. I have the Xbox one S which plays in 4K (although not in native 4K), but my PS4 is just the regular one. Let me know what thr games look like in 4K HDR! I played a few minutes of Madden and it was awesome. No chance to play CoD yet 1
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