Bocephuz Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) I watched 3 games each of the top 6 prospects. See chart below for my rankings. My scoring system is weighted... for example... decision making has a weighting of 3x... under center experience has a 1.5x weighting My 3 general takeaways are this - Mayfield and Rosen are on their own elite level - Darnold is not worth a top 10 pick - Rudolph could be a serviceable starter.. not a high ceiling.. but could be Tannehill Flame away:) Click on the image below to bring up the chart in viewable size. Edited February 17, 2018 by Bocephuz 9 4
H2o Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Thanks for taking the time to do this. Good work my friend 1
Bocephuz Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, H2o said: Thanks for taking the time to do this. Good work my friend my pleasure 1
KGun12TD Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Great stuff...love these posts. Thank you, Kind Sir!
Bocephuz Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, KGun12TD said: Great stuff...love these posts. Thank you, Kind Sir! certainly.. haven't been able to post much as my new job is a time suck.. but this was too important to not dig into 1
Teddy KGB Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Why isn’t Darnold a top 10 pick ? What’s he lacking from your research?
Bocephuz Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) - POSITIVES - excellent athlete, surprisingly good runner, strong arm, good in red zone NEGATIVES sloppy footwork.. mechanics.. relies on natural arm strenght too much makes several poor decisions per game. Saw multiple bad INTS.. trying to make too much happen ( Rosen and Mayfield had very few poor decisions) At times he throws on time and rhythm .... but not anywhere close to as smooth as Mayfield and Rosen 7 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Why isn’t Darnold a top 10 pick ? What’s he lacking from your research? - POSITIVES - excellent athlete, surprisingly good runner, strong arm, good in red zone NEGATIVES sloppy footwork.. mechanics.. relies on natural arm strenght too much makes several poor decisions per game. Saw multiple bad INTS.. trying to make too much happen ( Rosen and Mayfield had very few poor decisions) At times he throws on time and rhythm .... but not anywhere close to as smooth as Mayfield and Rosen Edited February 17, 2018 by Bocephuz 1
SouthNYfan Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 3 games is a pretty low sample size. Darnold has less experience than the others, so he's less polished. Darnold could be great, or could be another USC flameout. 1
HappyDays Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Maybe it's just the height comparison but Baker Mayfield really reminds me of Drew Brees 4
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bocephuz said: certainly.. haven't been able to post much as my new job is a time suck.. but this was too important to not dig into ....great work......just curious........what surprises did you encounter as a result of the in-depth analysis that you weren't aware of?..........any key results that you may have anticipated including final ranking after work was complete?....thanks again...........
Bocephuz Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: 3 games is a pretty low sample size. Darnold has less experience than the others, so he's less polished. Darnold could be great, or could be another USC flameout. 3 games is all i have time for .. Darnold has great potential no doubt... IMO he needs a lot of coaching up to get to be an above average NFL qb. Whereas Mayfield and Rosen are much more polished 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Maybe it's just the height comparison but Baker Mayfield really reminds me of Drew Brees i can see that... much more mobile though 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....great work......just curious........what surprises did you encounter as a result of the in-depth analysis that you weren't aware of?..........any key results that you may have anticipated including final ranking after work was complete?....thanks again........... surprises - Mayfield’s height was almost a non factor. Very few if any batted down balls - Allen is much more mobile than what I expected for a guy that big. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bocephuz said: 3 games is all i have time for .. Darnold has great potential no doubt... IMO he needs a lot of coaching up to get to be an above average NFL qb. Whereas Mayfield and Rosen are much more polished i can see that... much more mobile though surprises - Mayfield’s height was almost a non factor. Very few if any batted down balls - Allen is much more mobile than what I expected for a guy that big. .....why has the Falk kid virtually disappeared from the radar?.......moving up would require some significant draft capital......what is your opinion if McBeane takes Rudolph at 21/22?....
JaCrispy Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Bocephuz said: I watched 3 games each of the top 6 prospects. See chart below for my rankings. My scoring system is weighted... for example... decision making has a weighting of 3x... under center experience has a 1.5x weighting My 3 general takeaways are this - Mayfield and Rosen are on their own elite level - Darnold is not worth a top 10 pick - Rudolph could be a serviceable starter.. not a high ceiling.. but could be Tannehill Flame away:) Click on the image below to bring up the chart in viewable size. This actually sounds about right from what I’ve seen from my untrained eye...of course I wouldn’t mind Darnold...but I definitely think he is over hyped. Edited February 17, 2018 by JaCrispy
Bakin Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Falk before Darnold. Wow and Baker is 6’1”? Must have hit the inversion table. Edited February 17, 2018 by Bakin
JaCrispy Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Maybe it's just the height comparison but Baker Mayfield really reminds me of Drew Brees Agree 100%...he has become my top choice...I think he has the greatest potential for success in the NFL based on the chip on his shoulder, his drive and determination, and his competitiveness, and accuracy...all these attributes outweigh what the other prospects bring to the table imo...and I am a recent convert too...initially I was NOT a Mayfield fan...but he is just too good in so many ways to deny him imo. 1
ALF Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Thank you Bocephuz for such thorough research on such a critical draft. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 We would have to give up everything to move up to get the QB that we like,I don't see Beanie doing that. The more I watch Luke Falk the more I like him, he may take a year or 2 to develop but with his accuracy and anticipation I think he could become a very good QB. His film study is top notch, this kids whole life is a devotion to football. With good coaching I can see Luke Falk being a good starting QB.
Elite Poster Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 How did you decide the top 6? I would have Lamar before Falk. 1
DCOrange Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Pretty cool breakdown. There's just no way that Allen and Mayfield should have the same arm strength though.
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