AJ McCarron wins grievance vs Bengals, is UFA

[PolishDave]

12 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Not sure--if I were McCarron, I'm guessing that I'm not going to get the contract this offseason based upon my NFL body of work, so what I'm looking to do is put myself in the best situation to produce.

 

If I can play for a coach where I know the offense, and put myself in a position where I can potentially be on the UFA market again next offseason, that's pretty much ideal.

 

Yeah.   I would think he gets offered a "prove it" contract by one or more teams where he has to prove he is a franchise guy.   Bills could be one of those teams.   McCarron might see the Bills as a better opportunity also being that they were a playoff team this year compared to winless Browns.

[DrDawkinstein]

McCarron + Rookie >>>>>>> TT and Peterman

[zevo]

Having another horse in this qb race is nothing but an excellent thing for the Bills.....I even would look into singing AJ as our qb moving forward. Solid college qb with a national Championship....

[thebandit27]

1 minute ago, PolishDave said:

 

Yeah.   I would think he gets offered a "prove it" contract by one or more teams where he has to prove he is a franchise guy.   Bills could be one of those teams.   McCarron might see the Bills as a better opportunity also being that they were a playoff team this year compared to winless Browns.

 

The best situation for him would be either Denver or Arizona IMO.  Denver has a top-5 pick to beef up their OL or run game and two very productive WRs; Arizona has David Johnson,  Larry Fitzgerald, and a GM that's willing to spend on talent.

[ddaryl]

3 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

having moved to florida a while ago, i saw him play.  all he did was win.  if i am not mistaken the new o.c. was his o.c. at bama.  he reminds me of flutie.  they both just win.

 

 

LMAO at the fallicy that somehow Flutie just wins.. His NFL career was bolstered by stint with Buffalo's #1 Defense after that barley average in the W L column.. Flutie is the most over rated QB Buffalo fans make up...  I throw up every time someone mentions him as some sort of delusional positive QB reference

 

 

As for considering McCarron.. thats one of the nuttiest ideas this offseason.  He's no better than teir 2 rookie in regards ot our best options IMO

Edited February 16, 2018 by ddaryl

[Mat68]

He is an above average back up.  I would feel more comfortable with Taylor over Mccarron.  I could see him as mid level option if Buffalo couldnt land a better option and dont want to pick up Taylors option.  My money would be on him going to Cleveland.  They were willing to trade a 2nd and 3rd for him so I expect if Jackson has any pull left there they will over pay for him.  Imo Cleveland is a place where he could get a Glennon/ Oswieller type deal.

[ALF]

Just don't make a mistake like the Brock Osweiler deal.

[PolishDave]

11 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

The best situation for him would be either Denver or Arizona IMO.  Denver has a top-5 pick to beef up their OL or run game and two very productive WRs; Arizona has David Johnson,  Larry Fitzgerald, and a GM that's willing to spend on talent.

 

Could be.   Can't see how Buffalo looks any worse than those though.    Especially when Buffalo has a successful running game already and actually made the playoffs.

[Sky Diver]

9 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

LMAO at the fallicy that somehow Flutie just wins.. His NFL career was bolstered by stint with Buffalo's #1 Defense after that barley average in the W L column.. Flutie is the most over rated QB Buffalo fans make up...  I throw up every time someone mentions him as some sort of delusional positive QB reference

 

 

As for considering McCarron.. thats one of the nuttiest ideas this offseason.  He's no better than teir 2 rookie in regards ot our best options IMO

 

If that's true, why did RJ have such a poor record with the same D? Your assessment of both Flutie and McCarron is comical.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

McCarron has  better college stats, better back up stats and he will have better starter numbers than Taylor. 

 

If if we don't upgrade the QB position with all the options available to us somebody will need to be fired. 

 

I cannot not believe that after watching the Jacksonville game that anyone would want to keep Taylor for 18 mil.

 

If you watched  the Super Bowl you had to come to the realization that Taylor will never have a chance in a offensive game like that. 

 

I also have no idea why anyone would want Taylor mentoring a rookie QB when he still has major problems with audible's, reading defense's and passing the football. I really don't want my rookie QB leaning anything from a guy who is close to dead last in passing yards every season.

 

If Taylor is not released McD, Beanie and Daboll will be on the hot seat which will most likely lead to them being fired in 2019.

 

 

[apuszczalowski]

2 hours ago, NewEraBills said:

Signing him to a big contract is very risky.  There's no body of work to look at.  I'd be overly cautious.

Well in todays NFL, less than half a seasons worth of starts is enough to make you the highest paid player in the NFL

41 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Conversely, if his offer is low (or non-existent) from Cleveland it says a lot to me. Have to figure Hue has the most familiarity with him of anyone in the league outside of maybe some of Cincy's current staff.

Well I think trying to trade for him at the deadline should say that they think highly enough of him and willing to give up more then SF paid for JG

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

28 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

The best situation for him would be either Denver or Arizona IMO.  Denver has a top-5 pick to beef up their OL or run game and two very productive WRs; Arizona has David Johnson,  Larry Fitzgerald, and a GM that's willing to spend on talent.

The Rams, Seahawks and 49ers are all trending up. Arizona is going to have more than a few top 10 picks in the next few years. If Taylor goes to Arizona his time as a starter will end there. 

[thebandit27]

Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The Rams, Seahawks and 49ers are all trending up. Arizona is going to have more than a few top 10 picks in the next few years. If Taylor goes to Arizona his time as a starter will end there. 

 

Well, that post you quoted was in reference to McCarron.

 

But since you mentioned it, I think Arizona would be a good fit for Tyrod, since they may want a veteran that won't kill them for a year or two.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Well, that post you quoted was in reference to McCarron.

 

But since you mentioned it, I think Arizona would be a good fit for Tyrod, since they may want a veteran that won't kill them for a year or two.

I can't see Taylor outplaying Goff, Jimmy G or Wilson to have a chance at that division. 3 young QB's that will be the future super star faces of the NFL. No way is going to Arizona high on my list if I'm a QB.

[thebandit27]

Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I can't see Taylor outplaying Goff, Jimmy G or Wilson to have a chance at that division. 3 young QB's that will be the future super star faces of the NFL. No way is going to Arizona high on my list if I'm a QB.

 

I didn't say that Taylor would want to go there; you brought that up.  Again though, since you did, I'll opine: if you're Taylor, and a team that wants to pay you as a low-end starter or bridge option, then you probably go there instead of signing for less money as a backup.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Players like familiarity, and he played for Hue Jackson for 2 seasons in Cincinnati.

 

Cleveland also has a ridiculous amount of cap room, and can afford to give him a front-loaded deal that doesn't hurt them down the road if they cut ties with him.

 

Plus, he'd have a great opportunity to start.

 

Can you imagine hooking your future as a QB to Hue Jackson?

 

No doubt we will soon here about how Jackson was "blown away" by McCarron.

 

Hue get's blown away more often than an Oklahoma trailer park.

[apuszczalowski]

51 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Additionally, adding McCarron lets them do something like draft Barkley 1 and Chubb or Nelson at 4. Now you are getting two elite blue chip prospects. They have a really good offensive line as well. They also have Kizer to develop in the background who they seem to like. 

 

Now that team doesn't look so bad. Sign a receiver like Sammy Watkins or Jarvis Landry and some defensive players in free agency and they are in business. 

 

Drafting a young quarterback pretty much guarantees Hue Jackson loses his job in two years. I think he will be banging the table for McCarron and Dorsey will go for it because it allows them to get two top 5 position players in this draft. 

Lol, so i know the browns are a joke, but you think after all they have been through, they are going to pass on a franchise QB (by the way people talk about the top QBs around here im surprised generational talent isnt used more) and go with someone with less than a handful of career starts to go along with 2 other wasted pick and that many think have been ruined by them?

 

The Browns are not passing on the top QB in the draft again. If McCaron signs there it's to fill the role of bridge QB for whomever they draft 1st overall. I doubt he signs there knowing this if he has other options. If the browns sign a QB not named Cousins, its to fill the catetaker/bridge/backup role.

 

A player like McCaron could be intriguing to the Bills because it's an opening he could go to where he would have the chance to potentially become the starter/franchise QB without a top 10 pick breathing down his neck, and by not giving up the draft to move up, the Bills could use all their picks to fill holes on the roster. They can wait til their picks to take a QB they may like if available also. His contract shouldn't break the bank, Osweilers deal probably won't be made again, but he did have some game tape to go off of. It's even possible the Bills could trade one of their firsts to a team for one next year that they can use for a QB then if McCaron doesn't look good this year and they do t take another one early.

 

Denver is going to possibly draft someone early or get Cousins, doubt they take a chance on McCaron, and Arizona is most likely to go the proven veteran route also with Cousins or maybe Keenum or Foles maybe taking one in the 1st if a guy falls to them.

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Can you imagine hooking your future as a QB to Hue Jackson?

 

No doubt we will soon here about how Jackson was "blown away" by McCarron.

 

Hue get's blown away more often than an Oklahoma trailer park.

Could you imagine wanting to establish your career as a player with the Browns? Just looking at their track record, why as a QB would you consider them unless you either had no choice OR where so sure of your talent and huge Ego you think your God and could raise them from the ashes?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

48 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

He is an above average back up.  I would feel more comfortable with Taylor over Mccarron.  I could see him as mid level option if Buffalo couldnt land a better option and dont want to pick up Taylors option.  My money would be on him going to Cleveland.  They were willing to trade a 2nd and 3rd for him so I expect if Jackson has any pull left there they will over pay for him.  Imo Cleveland is a place where he could get a Glennon/ Oswieller type deal.

 

Agree.  They do get the small victory of not having to trade anything to acquire him though.

[BuffaloRebound]

I think best situation for Tyrod is Cleveland.  They need to learn to walk before they can run.  Tyrod doesn't turn it over, can make some plays, and is a positive in the locker room.  He'd be perfect Bridge QB for them.  I think McCarron will have more suitors and get more money than Tyrod in open market.  

[PolishDave]

5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

A player like McCaron could be intriguing to the Bills because it's an opening he could go to where he would have the chance to potentially become the starter/franchise QB without a top 10 pick breathing down his neck, and by not giving up the draft to move up, the Bills could use all their picks to fill holes on the roster. They can wait til their picks to take a QB they may like if available also. His contract shouldn't break the bank, Osweilers deal probably won't be made again, but he did have some game tape to go off of. It's even possible the Bills could trade one of their firsts to a team for one next year that they can use for a QB then if McCaron doesn't look good this year and they do t take another one early.

 

 

This is pretty much what I am thinking.      

 

But assuming McCarron doesn't get a high dollar offer for more than a couple years, I would think he is going to want to go to whichever team he thinks he can showcase himself the best with while actually winning games next year.     That might be the Bills.   It might be some other team.   He will want to look great so he can get that big contract with somebody - anybody - in another year.