B-Man Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) So the Left went from “How is resource supposed to even stop these things” to “it doesn’t matter that there was a resource officer.” Just incredible Quote Liz WheelerVerified account @Liz_Wheeler 4h4 hours ago Remember that time liberals told us raising the age to 21 to purchase a gun would stop mass shooters? The Maryland school shooter was 17yo. He got a gun. The age limit didn't stop him. Know what stopped him? A good guy with a gun. . Edited March 21, 2018 by B-Man
B-Man Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 The Parkland Students Just Learned What Asking for More Safety Means, and They Naturally Don’t Like It Living free doesn’t necessarily mean living safe. That’s the trade-off for living in a society where liberty is the dominant structure. People sometimes forget that liberty and chaos are cousins, and that sometimes the two get together. The results can be wonderful. Sometimes they’re tragic. From the very founding of our nation, we learned that order and safety can be just as devastating — if not more so — than chaos. Just as liberty and chaos are closely related, so is tyranny and order. You might live in a more safe world where danger is kept at bay, but there’s a good chance you won’t like how the powers that be go about it. And the Parkland students just learned that lesson. Needless to say, the freedom they just gave up to get safety isn’t sitting well with them. According to the DailyWire, the Superintendent of the Broward County School System issued an order that all students must have their student ID on them at all times. Furthermore, the students may only have clear backpacks, that the school will issue free of cost, that display their contents for everyone to see. Naturally, the students are not happy about their breach of privacy. (multiple examples at the link) One student, who has now deleted her tweet, nailed it on the head before she understood what she was saying. “So, we’re giving up all illusions of normalcy. okay. why should 3300 students be penalized for the failure of security to do their job?” asked MSDHS student @Nikta04. Indeed. Why should others be punished with things they like taken away from them due to the failures of security? The high school students are now being introduced to the bed they made, and must now sleep in. They demanded better security, more oversight. What they got was better security and more oversight, but it wasn’t what they intended. They wanted OTHERS to have to change in response to their demands, not themselves. The students opened the door for tyranny with their highly public demands for safety. They invited nonsensical solutions for problems the moment they rejected the route that offered danger to be utilized to protect them. The clear backpacks won’t make them more safe, but in an effort to “DO SOMETHING!!!1!” as the students demanded, they pretty much rolled out the welcome mat for ridiculous safety measures brought on by ridiculous people, who feel their ridiculous actions are helping simply because they’re acting. And this kind of tyranny is the worst kind. This was best pointed out by author C.S. Lewis when he wrote of this kind of tyrannical rule bent of safety. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” I hope the students think critically, and learn a lesson from this development. If you ask for safety, be ready to give up a freedom. https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/03/23/parkland-students-just-learned-asking-safety-means-naturally-dont-like/ 1
B-Man Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Like I needed another reason to dislike the Patriots............ Parkland students flown to DC on Patriots planehttp://thehill.com Edited March 24, 2018 by B-Man
B-Man Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Quote Cuffy @CuffyMeh 26m26 minutes ago "You guys! Stop calling the #MarchForOurLives gun control rally a gun control rally!" they tweeted, hoping that gun control rally won't stick especially if you don't tweet the words gun control rally over and over and over. PS: Gun control rally. Quote Sam SteinVerified account @samstein FollowFollow @samstein Curious for peoples thoughts on why there wasn’t mass protests/rallies like this after Sandy Hook? Quote Stephen MillerVerified account @redsteeze26m26 minutes ago More Stephen Miller Retweeted Sam SSSssSame reason none of the marches from 2009-2016 magically never made it to the White House lawn. Edited March 24, 2018 by B-Man
B-Man Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 The #MarchForOurLives has brought out a whole lot of anti-NRA signs (as well as Democrat politicians taking part in the totally “nonpartisan” protest), but few sum up the calls for civil gun debate in the wake of the Parkland shooting more than this one about Florda Senator Marco Rubio: ...This #MarchForOurLives attacks Marco Rubio for his Catholic faith and draws a blood cross on his forehead. Remember when you were told about the march’s organizers saying this “is not a political issue”? ...That was a lie. I guess we've moved looooooong past the media lectures about civil and responsible rhetoric. No concerns about the dangers being created by this rhetoric? #MarchForOurLives kids chant, ‘NRA, how many kids did you kill today' Here's the answer........... . 1
Warren Zevon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just got back from the rally downtown. Absolutely fantastic. The way those kids and the ones this morning in Washington DC spoke was way beyond their years. Props to them for speaking up and dealing with constant crap slung at them. 1
B-Man Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 It is always difficult for people to be unbiased about this type of subject, One can admire the passion and sincerity of these 'students' and still point out the falsehoods of their arguments. One can mourn for the loss of innocents and still discuss that NONE of the march proposals are feasible. BUT MOSTLY, one can expect the projection of "crap slingers' like GB, when you demonstrate the painfully obvious fact that these children ARE BEING USED. Look behind the platform, and who do you see? The facts: I deliberately picked sources that wouldn't "distract" Despite Heightened Fear Of School Shootings, It's Not A Growing - NPR https://www.npr.org/.../the-disconnect-between-perceived-danger-in-u-s-schools-and-rea... There Is No 'Epidemic of Mass School Shootings' - NYMag nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/.../there-is-no-epidemic-of-mass-school-shootings.html Schools are safer than they were in the 90s, and school shootings are ... https://news.northeastern.edu/.../schools-are-still-one-of-the-safest-places-for-children-... Fake school shooting stats make solutions harder to find - USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/...school-shooting-no...school-shootings.../343100002/ School shootings are still not the new normal - USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/...school-shootings-not.../349380002/
Koko78 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, garybusey said: The way those kids and the ones this morning in Washington DC spoke was way beyond their years. Speech writers help.
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, garybusey said: Just got back from the rally downtown. Absolutely fantastic. The way those kids and the ones this morning in Washington DC spoke was way beyond their years. Props to them for speaking up and dealing with constant crap slung at them. What constant crap are you alluding to? Its the same **** as any other generation had to deal with except that social media now gives everyone a platform to air their grievances.
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Kind of appalling the way most of the media frame this so called discussion on guns. The way many make it seem is if you support gun rights or the second amendment you are on the same level of a mass murderer. Not a conversation I want to be a part of. Edited March 25, 2018 by Leonhart2017
bbb Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Leonhart2017 said: Kind of appalling the way most of the media frame this so called discussion on guns. The way many make it seem is if you support gun rights or the second amendment you are on the same level of a mass murderer. Not a conversation I want to be a part of. Like this that showed up on my FB timeline: They staged a coup and changed the NRA from a marksman organization to the political one we know today that lobbies to get guns into the hands of everyone with zero regulations or penalties for shooting people. 2 minutes ago, Just Jack said: I don't watch TV news enough to know what he says - other than a few short clips, but he annoys me just looking at him.
/dev/null Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Hogg is an upstart amateur. He has a long way to contend for the title Edited March 25, 2018 by /dev/null
TH3 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Should gun owners be responsible and accountable for their weapons?
Tiberius Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Jennifer Rubin: By the hundreds of thousands, they came. They gave impassioned and articulate speeches. The shared their experiences in Chicago, South Los Angeles and Florida. They gave one TV interview after another, displaying remarkable poise and heart-breaking sincerity. Adults decades older watched with awe. These are teenagers. How did these kids learn to do this? The sense of amazement among adults, including jaded members of the media, was palpable — both because supposedly sophisticated adults had not pulled off this kind of change in attitudes about guns in the decades they’d been trying and because the teenagers shredded the talking points, the lies, the cynicism and the indifference that we’ve become accustomed to in our politics. If this was a movie, you’d think it was inauthentic. However, it may be our image of our fellow Americans and teenagers that has been wildly inaccurate and unfairly negative. Too many of us have bought into the notion that teenagers are passive, addicted to their phones and lacking civic awareness. Too many have been guilted into accepting that “real Americans” are the Trump voters, and that the rest of us are pretenders, pawns of “elites.” The crowd reminded us of the country’s enormous geographic, racial, gender and age diversity. (Plenty of teachers, parents and grandparents turned out.) And in the case of guns, these people are far more representative of the views of the country than the proverbial guy in the Rust Belt diner. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/03/24/they-came-they-marched-they-inspired/?utm_term=.7df37ad96802
4merper4mer Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Jennifer Rubin: By the hundreds of thousands, they came. They gave impassioned and articulate speeches. The shared their experiences in Chicago, South Los Angeles and Florida. They gave one TV interview after another, displaying remarkable poise and heart-breaking sincerity. Adults decades older watched with awe. These are teenagers. How did these kids learn to do this? The sense of amazement among adults, including jaded members of the media, was palpable — both because supposedly sophisticated adults had not pulled off this kind of change in attitudes about guns in the decades they’d been trying and because the teenagers shredded the talking points, the lies, the cynicism and the indifference that we’ve become accustomed to in our politics. If this was a movie, you’d think it was inauthentic. However, it may be our image of our fellow Americans and teenagers that has been wildly inaccurate and unfairly negative. Too many of us have bought into the notion that teenagers are passive, addicted to their phones and lacking civic awareness. Too many have been guilted into accepting that “real Americans” are the Trump voters, and that the rest of us are pretenders, pawns of “elites.” The crowd reminded us of the country’s enormous geographic, racial, gender and age diversity. (Plenty of teachers, parents and grandparents turned out.) And in the case of guns, these people are far more representative of the views of the country than the proverbial guy in the Rust Belt diner. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/03/24/they-came-they-marched-they-inspired/?utm_term=.7df37ad96802 Did she write that before or after the event?
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