MrEpsYtown Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, horned dogs said: I find it interesting how much of the early chatter (pre-combine), may turn out to be true. We heard Rosen to Bills, Mayfield to Jets, Barkley to Giants, Darnold to Browns etc.. Then after that in March everyone was connected with every team LOL! I really think there is truth to the Darnold-Rosen Bills love. Those reports came out so early, way before the combine. There was a report of us loving Darnold in December. To me, that is not a smokescreen. I feel and hope that Rosen will be our guy. 2
MJS Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Any scenario where we end up with Rosen makes me happy. I just wish the Jets ended up with Allen instead of Mayfield. I think Mayfield could be good, but I have little faith in Allen. Interesting if Darnold AND Rosen fall out of the top 3 picks. I'd take either one. That's a dream scenario for the Bills. I kinda doubt that. If the Browns take Allen over Darnold #1 overall they deserve to suffer for the rest of time. 1
BillsFan17 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 The funny part is Rosen "personality" will turn some teams off, and it's almost 100% to our benefit. Had their not been that "concern" there is no way we would have a shot at the best passer to come out in a long time. 2
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: The funny part is Rosen "personality" will turn some teams off, and it's almost 100% to our benefit. Had their not been that "concern" there is no way we would have a shot at the best passer to come out in a long time. Boy, I'll say. We may end up getting the best QB/Player in the draft at something less than number 1 because he isn't an institutional guy.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Just blitz his face off and draft really tall defensive lineman like 6-6 Trent Murphy. I have no link, but pretty sure he was the best QB in the county versus the blitz.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Fine with the Jets getting Mayfield if it means we get Rosen. The Patriots reign needs to be over and it will be fun having meaningful divisional games again. That being said if they take Josh Allen I'm going to celebrate it like a playoff win. 1 1
billspro Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: That's how I see it, although I'm not ruling out the Browns taking Allen. Even if that did happen, I think it just shuffles some names around with the same general premise. Then the Colts / Bucs / Bears really hoping someone gives up a ransom to come get the last QB. I think 4 feels like a natural spot for us to move up, not risking Denver taking a QB at 5. The part that gets lost on people who say "Cleveland would have too many picks" is they know they can get an elite prospect at 12 and they could easily move up from 22 to get 2 high level prospects, basically making 4 vs the Bills package a 1 vs 2 proposition. 12 / 22 / 65 feels like a fair price, we overpay, but not criminally and we still have 2 2nds and don't touch next year. That seems likely the most likely scenario. The Browns have no reason to stay at 4 with Barkley off the board. A player like Davenport fits their D much better than Chubb. 1 hour ago, section122 said: That makes me really really sad. Not only will the Bills not end up with him but the Jets will? Mayfield is a good prospect, but it is not like he doesn't have bust potential. I would be fine with the Jets getting Mayfield if the Bills got Rosen. We just have to hope the Bills get the better QB. This draft will decide the next good team in the AFCE.
BigBuff423 Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, horned dogs said: Rivalry of the futute Rosen(Bills) vs Mayfield(Jets). Just like Kelly vs Marino, and we won most of them! !@#$ the Patriots and Dolphins! Now, I realize I'm in the minority....but intercourse with a Dolphin, let alone multiples, is not my idea of fun.... 1
Rico Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I do not want to face Mayfield twice a year. At all. Give me Rosen and I’m not afraid of anyone. 2
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rico said: Give me Rosen and I’m not afraid of anyone. Gotta say that a Rosen-led Bills vs. Mayfield-led Jets division rivalry (where we both consistently finish top 2 in the division) would be pretty fun and a nice change-of-pace. 4
MrEpsYtown Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Now, I realize I'm in the minority....but intercourse with a Dolphin, let alone multiples, is not my idea of fun.... I believe that the legend of mermaids actually comes from sailors having intercourse with manatees or something like that and justifying it.
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End The Drought Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: How reputable is this allbright guy? Never even heard of him until a few weeks ago
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 Beane's balls will go up on the wall if he gets Rosen outside of the top 5. 1
SouthNYfan Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/11/2018 at 10:08 AM, section122 said: That makes me really really sad. Not only will the Bills not end up with him but the Jets will? On 4/11/2018 at 10:09 AM, JohnBonhamRocks said: I do not want to face Mayfield twice a year. At all. Well they are getting Mayfield or Rosen. Either way it's tough to stomach. It'll be much easier to stomach when we get the other one. It'll be even harder to stomach if we get neither of them. I almost wish they take Rosen, leaving us Baker, and him putting the Jets on his "list" for passing on him.
HappyDays Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 God I hope the Browns draft Allen 1st overall. I don't want to be nervous that we'll trade up for him. 4
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2018 Author Posted April 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Well they are getting Mayfield or Rosen. Either way it's tough to stomach. It'll be much easier to stomach when we get the other one. It'll be even harder to stomach if we get neither of them. I almost wish they take Rosen, leaving us Baker, and him putting the Jets on his "list" for passing on him. 2
JohnC Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: God I hope the Browns draft Allen 1st overall. I don't want to be nervous that we'll trade up for him. If the Bills trade up for Allen will you change your moniker from HappyDays to UnhappyDays? Just curious?
HappyDays Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, JohnC said: If the Bills trade up for Allen will you change your moniker from HappyDays to UnhappyDays? Just curious? I will honestly feel like the next 2 years of Bills football are a huge waste if we trade up for Allen. If we somehow stayed at 12 and took him I would still hate it but it would be a salvageable mistake. I am really hoping we take literally anyone else. That being said if we draft him I won't B word about it all summer, I'll just silently stew in my misery 2
K D Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 I just watched Darnold and Rosen film back to back today. It's not even close. Rosen is so far superior it's a joke that this is even a discussion. Darnold dances around and jump passes it to get it in the playmakers hands. It's effective but it's not something you see at the NFL level. His footwork is horrible, he's falling away from the throw, all of his momentum is going backwards instead of stepping into the throw. It works on those short quick passes in that offense because it's basically a long handoff, just trying to get it into the receiver's hands to let them run with it. You never see him stand tall in the pocket and deliver a strike. If anything he will do that while scrambling or again while falling away from the pressure. I don't know if he lacks the arm strength on some of these throws or if it's just because he's falling backwards and doesn't have the momentum behind his throw because of his poor mechanics. Josh Rosen is next level. On multiple throws he is set up to deliver the throw to a receiver but at the last second checks it down mid throw. You can see him going through the progression and he changes his release at the last second to throw it underneath. Because of his mechanics he can do that without resetting his feet. It's absolutely brilliant to see. Perfect base, good footwork in the pocket, momentum going forward, nice follow through. Just so impressive. Ask any QB to watch the film and it's not even a contest between these guys. So what I think is happening is there's too many cooks in the kitchen. A scout watches the film and sees Darnold as a solid "football player" who is big and strong and effective. He can escape pressure and get the ball to the playmaker. But it's soooo ugly to watch. It's not what you are taught to do at all. We used to have a RB in high school that would do a sweep play with the option to throw and he would basically flip the ball to the wr. He wouldn't even try and grip the ball and throw a spiral he would just kind of flop the ball out there. That's what Darnold reminds me of. No mechanics. Any scout that has Darnold rated high is because they are not a QB, don't understand the position, and do not know what proper mechanics look like. Ask any QB to watch the tape and it would be unanimous. Rosen is the best QB in this draft. 1
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