Chicken Boo Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, FearLess Price said: Mayfield > Rosen based on overall talent, our current OL, and intangibles. Hahahaha! You Mayfield supporters never disappoint.
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: No way in hell Bills get to #2 spot.....No way Giants would Never trade that far down and there are way too many teams to leap ✍️
3rdand12 Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ✍️ ? cant find my specs to see the symbol. age and all. whats it mean? yay or nay?
Doc Brown Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Yea, I'm with you on the Mayfield bus. Think he's going to be a great player. Here's the thing with Bridgewater in general. If the knee is good and he's a franchise guy...why in the world would the Vikings let him go? They have the option to franchise him, the can resign him over Bradford/Keenum if he's a franchise guy. If the Vikings let him go...there's a reason. Shurmur would likely have some firsthand knowledge of where his knee is at and where he is as a player. True, but there could be dissenting opinions between Shurmur and the Vikings personnel/coaches on Bridgewater. I wouldn't be shocked if the Vikings take a run at Cousins as they are in a win now mode. Just a thought.
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: ? cant find my specs to see the symbol. age and all. whats it mean? yay or nay? filing away the definitive take for @freezingcoldtakes 1
Thurman#1 Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said: No way in hell Bills get to #2 spot.....No way Giants would Never trade that far down and there are way too many teams to leap It could easily happen, especially if they throw in Cordy Glenn as Galko suggests they might.
Dkollidas Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: It could easily happen, especially if they throw in Cordy Glenn as Galko suggests they might. I don’t know. Kind of seems like Galko is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks. His evidence of their interest was, 1) that he’s heard from people (although no one in the organization), that the Bills like him. 2) they’ve scouted him multiple times my reply would be 1) who is “they”, is it just a regional scout of something? Or is it someone like Beane. These scouting staffs aren’t small, they have groups of people who have varying interest in different players. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people in the organization who had each of the top guys at the top of their own personal list. 2) Beane has scouted Rudolph multiple times himself this season. Does that mean they’re in love with him? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove anything either.
PIZ Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) The quote "to the Bills" seems to imply that this is a done deal. How likely is it that the two teams actually agreed on a deal? (assuming Darnold hoes 1). 'Josh Rosen to the Bills is what I've heard repeatedly,' says Eric Galko. http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/josh_rosen_to_the_buffalo_bills_is_what_ive_heard_repeatedly_says_eric_galko.html Edited February 15, 2018 by PIZ
MAJBobby Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 This is the QB I have wanted to the Bills all season. Just make it happen 1
NickelCity Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 If we make the trade up, Rosen or Mayfield is who I'm hoping for. Sometimes I like Darnold and other times I'm unconvinced. Just can't quite get a read on him.
YoloinOhio Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, PIZ said: The quote "to the Bills" seems to imply that this is a done deal. How likely is it that the two teams actually agreed on a deal? (assuming Darnold hoes 1). 'Josh Rosen to the Bills is what I've heard repeatedly,' says Eric Galko. http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/josh_rosen_to_the_buffalo_bills_is_what_ive_heard_repeatedly_says_eric_galko.html I think it’s possible the Bills and Giants have discussed some preliminary parameters on a deal. I think it’s possible Rosen is #1 or 2 on their board based on what they know today. But keep in mind they have not met or interviewed him at all yet. They will in 2 weeks. 1 1
MAJBobby Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Beane and McD. If you can make this happen I swear I will not call you out for One Calender year over Teflon Juan still being employed here The earlier the Deal can become official the cheaper it will be IMO. As they get closer and closer to draft and more teams start calling price might go up. Edited February 15, 2018 by MAJBobby
Nihilarian Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Not sure that can be emphasized enough. It actually gets less dangerous for QB's when they reach the NFL. And fwiw........Aaron Rodgers was on his 3rd or 4th bad concussion in 2010........and on his way out of the league.........when Goodell decided you couldn't hit QB's......or WR's in the middle of the field.....and began bludgeoning the Steelers defense with fines to emphasize the point. 7 years later concussions are no longer much of an issue for him. While this is all true, it was a rubber matt that ended Kevin Kolb's NFL career. NFL players are bigger, stronger and more importantly much, much faster. It's not just the concussions that have me worried about Allen as much as his recurring shoulder injuries and his struggles with free rushers. Makes risky decisions under pressure, throws off his back foot when hurried. Makes dangerous throwaways while being sacked instead of holding the ball. When he takes hits he is prone to get knocked out of a game. Other than all that a really good college football QB. My personal opinion is that the Bills have far too many holes on the roster to give up so much for a QB with serious questions. I prefer the Bills back up the Brinks truck for Cousins and spend all those draft picks on filling those holes.
MAJBobby Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, Nihilarian said: While this is all true, it was a rubber matt that ended Kevin Kolb's NFL career. NFL players are bigger, stronger and more importantly much, much faster. It's not just the concussions that have me worried about Allen as much as his recurring shoulder injuries and his struggles with free rushers. Makes risky decisions under pressure, throws off his back foot when hurried. Makes dangerous throwaways while being sacked instead of holding the ball. When he takes hits he is prone to get knocked out of a game. Other than all that a really good college football QB. My personal opinion is that the Bills have far too many holes on the roster to give up so much for a QB with serious questions. I prefer the Bills back up the Brinks truck for Cousins and spend all those draft picks on filling those holes. And Cousins take a big shot and gets a concussion and ends his career. See you cant predict that soooo
Nihilarian Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And Cousins take a big shot and gets a concussion and ends his career. See you cant predict that soooo Apples can fall from a tree.
njbuff Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 I will bet you the Giants would want the Bills to take on Apple in part of the deal.
Thurman#1 Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I don’t know. Kind of seems like Galko is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks. His evidence of their interest was, 1) that he’s heard from people (although no one in the organization), that the Bills like him. 2) they’ve scouted him multiple times my reply would be 1) who is “they”, is it just a regional scout of something? Or is it someone like Beane. These scouting staffs aren’t small, they have groups of people who have varying interest in different players. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people in the organization who had each of the top guys at the top of their own personal list. 2) Beane has scouted Rudolph multiple times himself this season. Does that mean they’re in love with him? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove anything either. I'm not saying I know they are interested, though it certainly seems reasonable, and it should count that Galko correctly had the Bills after Trubisky last year. Anyway, I was replying to someone who said that the Bills wouldn't be able to trade up that far. And there's definitely a solid chance they could. If they want to. As to who his source is, that's not generally how sources work. It's reasonable to have doubts, though. Could be a smoke screen. But IMHO the fact that the same people said Trubisky last year makes it more credible. Edited February 15, 2018 by Thurman#1
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Rosen suffered not one but 2 concussions last season. I think its absolutely insane to trade the house for him. Rosen also an often injured QB dating back to High school. I really hope this is smoke. 1 1
Thurman#1 Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: not real. fun to spin though. i will honestly fall off my chair if Bills go up into the top five. Top fifteen maybe . But Bills trading away the ability to fill ALL the holes upcoming decently means they likely need all their picks. And us a couple to trade out of ? sure. But not multiples to get the QB. Not this season. IMHO. Thicken up the the roster a good bit this year and when the dead money falls off ? Go for it. If they go for it?I am cool with that. Just seems out of character and too soon in the McBeanes career. First clean draft by them and all. Not sure what you mean by "clean draft." But GMs getting their franchise QB in their first draft are actually a fairly common thing. Makes perfect sense, really, and seems very likely that it's why McD acquired the extra picks in the first place. Whether the guy they want will be available is another question, of course, as is how far we'll be able to trade up.
BobbyC81 Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I know a franchise QB is one of the most important things to have but I cant see it being worth giving up all the picks we would need to help fill all our other needs with C’mon. Rams did it for Goff and won the division in his 2nd season. Iggles did it for Wentz and won Super Bowl. Sometimes you gotta pay what the market demands to get what you want/need. 9 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Ironically he also said that Whaley was a fan of Money Mitch Trubisky. There goes the DeShaun Watson narrative for Whaley supporters And McDermott overruled Whaley because he was all in on Tyrod? Sigh! Edited February 15, 2018 by LittleJoeCartwright
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