Jay_Fixit Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 8 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: So my last “Top 5” thread was panned badly by some for being too negative. Speaking of negative many have said Fullback is a “dead position” in the NFL. Let’s take a second and remember the good times...or the good ones. Here goes a new attempt at a fun thread and a question that’s not easy to answer. Who was the best Bills FB of all time?!?!? Here are my Top 5 fullbacks from my perspective: 5. Corey McIntyre - All jokes aside this guy was the prefect blocking fullback. The ideal player to run ahead of Fred Jackson. 4. Jerome Felton Spencer - He was signed to a deal that was not favorable to the team but the dude could play FB. A punishing blocker who also could catch when given the opportunity. 3. Carwell Gardiner - when Polian drafted him in Round 2, I’m sure he saw more of a Tom Rathman sort of role in the K-Gun. But Carwell made some huge blocks for Thurman and Kenneth Davis and also made the Pro Bowl. He could carry the ball if he had to as well. 2. San Gash - Tremendous blocker who opened up huge holes and made average RB’s like Antwan Smith and Johnathan Linton look great. 1. Larry Centers - only played 1 year in Buffalo but had an amazing impact. He caught 80 balls as a FB. Unreal. Unfortunately his team was bad, but Larry is #1 in my book. Honorable Mention: Jaime Mueller (not that good but memorable) Nate Turner (Too many injuries) Tim Tindale (Could have been used better) Frank Sommers (meh) Patrick DiMarco (Overpaid and Underperformed) Mike Tolbert (Never again) Centers played 2 years in Buffalo. Dude was great.
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 8 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Very very very good...not as good as Larry Centers I guess its a matter of preference. I loved Larry Centers gm watched him a ton in Arz but i prefer a FB that can knock your head off and no one was better then Gash at that. I used to love watching him play.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 13 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: So my last “Top 5” thread was panned badly by some for being too negative. Speaking of negative many have said Fullback is a “dead position” in the NFL. Let’s take a second and remember the good times...or the good ones. Here goes a new attempt at a fun thread and a question that’s not easy to answer. Who was the best Bills FB of all time?!?!? Here are my Top 5 fullbacks from my perspective: 5. Corey McIntyre - All jokes aside this guy was the prefect blocking fullback. The ideal player to run ahead of Fred Jackson. 4. Jerome Felton Spencer - He was signed to a deal that was not favorable to the team but the dude could play FB. A punishing blocker who also could catch when given the opportunity. 3. Carwell Gardiner - when Polian drafted him in Round 2, I’m sure he saw more of a Tom Rathman sort of role in the K-Gun. But Carwell made some huge blocks for Thurman and Kenneth Davis and also made the Pro Bowl. He could carry the ball if he had to as well. 2. San Gash - Tremendous blocker who opened up huge holes and made average RB’s like Antwan Smith and Johnathan Linton look great. 1. Larry Centers - only played 1 year in Buffalo but had an amazing impact. He caught 80 balls as a FB. Unreal. Unfortunately his team was bad, but Larry is #1 in my book. Honorable Mention: Jaime Mueller (not that good but memorable) Nate Turner (Too many injuries) Tim Tindale (Could have been used better) Frank Sommers (meh) Patrick DiMarco (Overpaid and Underperformed) Mike Tolbert (Never again) No way, Larry was a pass catcher and not a real FB. Mueller was hammer and should be on the list.
row_33 Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 So rushing yards is the top consideration on the effectiveness of a FB. sad times indeed...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Nope Kinnebrew essentially played one season with the Bills. He rushed for 531 yards which is pretty good. But he does not make my list and was not better than my Top 5. Yeah..problem is I specified the time period. Braxton is not eligible for this Top 5 Kinnebrew was MILES better than McIntyre. Now, if you say that he wasn’t there long enough, fine. I’d ask what about Felton though? He was on the team for a season, got cut and came back, 2 seasons. If you want to say that Kinnebrew is more of a RB, fine. There isn’t a case to be made though that McIntyre was a better player. I’m not sure if Felton was really good or the scheme was but they put up massive YPC with him playing. I’d have him 3 behind Centers and Gash. 1. Centers 2. Gash 3. Felton 4. Kinnebrew (wasn’t here long enough to be higher) 5. Gardner Edited February 14, 2018 by Kirby Jackson
The Wiz Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 The last one I remember watching play was gash and he reminded me what it would look like if a TE played fullback. Just a monster both in size and play style. If centers was that good I need to see if I can find some film on the tubes. I don't remember watching him.
CommonCents Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 Carwell Gardner, mostly because he is the first FB I remember and times were much better then. All those guys get a bump in their batting average.
billieve420 Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 I hope we move away from needing a FB in the offense. Waste of spot in my opinion and we are paying DiMarco money for like what 20-30% of the offensive snaps.
row_33 Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 In 1977, when OJ was finally ruined after needlessly running the ball all game long for years, the Bills achieved 1 ***damn rushing TD, Joe the QB chalked up 2. So that's the worst year probably for FBing. but it's outside the 30 year window https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/1977.htm
BuffaloRush Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No way, Larry was a pass catcher and not a real FB. Mueller was hammer and should be on the list. Mueller was not that good. Take a look at his stats. He was just a guy on an offense of superstars. There’s a reason why the Bills cut him in 91 and why no other team signed him 13 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Kinnebrew was MILES better than McIntyre. Now, if you say that he wasn’t there long enough, fine. I’d ask what about Felton though? He was on the team for a season, got cut and came back, 2 seasons. If you want to say that Kinnebrew is more of a RB, fine. There isn’t a case to be made though that McIntyre was a better player. I’m not sure if Felton was really good or the scheme was but they put up massive YPC with him playing. I’d have him 3 behind Centers and Gash. 1. Centers 2. Gash 3. Felton 4. Kinnebrew (wasn’t here long enough to be higher) 5. Gardner I stand by my list 100% Kinnebrew wasn’t in Buffalo long enough to make the list. I do have to admit I was surprised to look back and see that he rushed for 500 yards. I don’t remember him being that big of a focal point in 1989 and he had a limited impact on a team that underachieved to a 9-7 record that year.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Mueller was not that good. Take a look at his stats. He was just a guy on an offense of superstars. There’s a reason why the Bills cut him in 91 and why no other team signed him I stand by my list 100% Kinnebrew wasn’t in Buffalo long enough to make the list. I do have to admit I was surprised to look back and see that he rushed for 500 yards. I don’t remember him being that big of a focal point in 1989 and he had a limited impact on a team that underachieved to a 9-7 record that year. He scored a ton of TDs too. He was a really good player but was basically a Bengal that came at the end of his career. He was more of a RB too. He was the best with the ball in his hands of any of them (with the possible exception of Centers who was a great receiver). We all have our lists and that’s fine. I am just struggling with an argument for McIntyre over him. There isn’t much supporting it.
Pete Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Carwell Gardner is one of my alltime favorite Bills. We had some heated games against the dolphins and Carwell was always in the thick of it. That dude could regulate Edited February 15, 2018 by Pete
vincec Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 2:51 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Cookie Gilchrist, Wayne Patrick, and Jim Braxton say hello. From a different era where the FB was a primo position and not getting phased out like now. But yeah, they were the best.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Mueller was not that good. Take a look at his stats. He was just a guy on an offense of superstars. There’s a reason why the Bills cut him in 91 and why no other team signed him Stats seriously?? Full Backs don't have good stats.
Domdab99 Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Might as well wonder who the best long-snapper was? I mean, who cares?
BakersBills Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 2Ktolbert or tolbert2k either way it’s not close
BuffaloRush Posted February 15, 2018 Author Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: Might as well wonder who the best long-snapper was? I mean, who cares? Because everyone has an opinion and these lists are a lot of fun
Bookie Man Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 3 of the 5 candidates names are spelled wrong. I'm guessing on purpose?
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