Cugalabanza Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 “The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.” - Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC. I expect some people will want to have some explanation on this.
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 6:57 PM, Cugalabanza said: “The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.” - Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC. I expect some people will want to have some explanation on this. Expand Well, let's start with the claim, and verify it's veracity: Is the office of Sheriff a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement?
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 6:57 PM, Cugalabanza said: “The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.” - Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC. I expect some people will want to have some explanation on this. Expand Because it is?
Cugalabanza Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:00 PM, 3rdnlng said: Because it is? Expand Session is not bright. He doesn't need the heat that he's gonna get over this. This smells racist to me. You can argue otherwise and say that his statement is technically accurate, but this is some loaded language.
3rdnlng Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:10 PM, Cugalabanza said: Session is not bright. He doesn't need the heat that he's gonna get over this. This smells racist to me. You can argue otherwise and say that his statement is technically accurate, but this is some loaded language. Expand It wouldn't even be loaded language if Robert Byrd had said it. It is manufactured "news".
IDBillzFan Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:10 PM, Cugalabanza said: This smells racist to me. Expand I'll take "Liberal Responses To Every Word Not Spoken By A Liberal" for $200, Alex. I haven't seen this much racism since the the coin flip at the Olympics. 4
Azalin Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 6:57 PM, Cugalabanza said: “The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.” - Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC. I expect some people will want to have some explanation on this. Expand People who are either uneducated or ignorant of etymology might presume that to be racist, but "anglo" doesn't properly define a race. It defines an ethnic heritage. The word "sheriff" derives from the old English "shire" "reeve", which was the local law authority under the crown. That's most likely what Sessions was referring to when he said that.
Koko78 Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) On 2/12/2018 at 7:10 PM, Cugalabanza said: Session is not bright. He doesn't need the heat that he's gonna get over this. This smells racist to me. You can argue otherwise and say that his statement is technically accurate, but this is some loaded language. Expand It's only racist to one who is a moron who has no understanding of the history of where the word 'Sheriff' came from. On 2/12/2018 at 7:35 PM, Azalin said: People who are either uneducated or ignorant of etymology might presume that to be racist, but "anglo" doesn't properly define a race. It defines an ethnic heritage. The word "sheriff" derives from the old English "shire" "reeve", which was the local law authority under the crown. That's most likely what Sessions was referring to when he said that. Expand Now, now. Sessions is a Republican who used the term 'anglo' during black history month. I agree with LA, this is the most racist thing to happen since the coin flip. Edited February 12, 2018 by Koko78
DC Tom Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 6:57 PM, Cugalabanza said: “The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.” - Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC. I expect some people will want to have some explanation on this. Expand I hope he's niggardly with his explanations. 1
Cugalabanza Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:45 PM, Koko78 said: It's only racist if one is a moron who has no understanding of the history of where the word 'Sheriff' came from. Expand I understand the history and the etymology. I still think it's coded. You're speaking to a bunch of sheriffs. Why all of a sudden bring up "Anglo-American heritage?" If you want to point out the origin of the notion of sheriff in England, you can talk about that, but the way he brought it up, that's skeevy. If you are a black sheriff listening to that speech, would you not find that offensive at all?
Azalin Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) On 2/12/2018 at 7:49 PM, Cugalabanza said: Why all of a sudden bring up "Anglo-American heritage?" Expand Because we used to be a British colony? Edited February 12, 2018 by Azalin
DC Tom Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:51 PM, Azalin said: Because we used to be a British colony? Expand And our legal system is based heavily on English common law? 1
Koko78 Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:49 PM, Cugalabanza said: I understand the history and the etymology. I still think it's coded. You're speaking to a bunch of sheriffs. Why all of a sudden bring up "Anglo-American heritage?" If you want to point out the origin of the notion of sheriff in England, you can talk about that, but the way he brought it up, that's skeevy. If you are a black sheriff listening to that speech, would you not find that offensive at all? Expand Pray tell, where did the word come from? (Here's a hint, the place it came from is actually named for the Germanic tribe known as the Angles.) If a black Sheriff is offended by being reminded that the origin of his title came from England, he should be ashamed of himself.
Cugalabanza Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:56 PM, Koko78 said: If a black Sheriff is offended by being reminded that the origin of his title came from England, he should be ashamed of himself. Expand I think it's kind of coy to pretend that's what my point is.
GG Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:49 PM, Cugalabanza said: I understand the history and the etymology. I still think it's coded. You're speaking to a bunch of sheriffs. Why all of a sudden bring up "Anglo-American heritage?" If you want to point out the origin of the notion of sheriff in England, you can talk about that, but the way he brought it up, that's skeevy. If you are a black sheriff listening to that speech, would you not find that offensive at all? Expand I can certainly see how his comments can be seen as racist if that's what you're looking for. But he's also historically correct, and very likely went off script because he also wants to take a stand at the historic erosion and ongoing rewriting of American history. 1
Koko78 Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 8:05 PM, Cugalabanza said: I think it's kind of coy to pretend that's what my point is. Expand Just like it is to pretend that the comment was some form of racist 'code'.
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:49 PM, Cugalabanza said: I understand the history and the etymology. I still think it's coded. You're speaking to a bunch of sheriffs. Why all of a sudden bring up "Anglo-American heritage?" If you want to point out the origin of the notion of sheriff in England, you can talk about that, but the way he brought it up, that's skeevy. If you are a black sheriff listening to that speech, would you not find that offensive at all? Expand Ignorant people who get offended at things they have no business getting offended over, and then heap charges of racism, and demand modification of the world to meet their absurd and evolving standard are the problem here. It's OK to acknowledge history. Even a net positive. Even if the history is related to people or traditions with European ancestry. The fact that there's a segment of the population that finds this problematic is awful. The fact that people indulge them is worse. 2
boyst Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:10 PM, Cugalabanza said: Session is not bright. He doesn't need the heat that he's gonna get over this. This smells racist to me. You can argue otherwise and say that his statement is technically accurate, but this is some loaded language. Expand God damn, son. How do you leave the house without getting your diaper wet?
Doc Brown Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 6:57 PM, Cugalabanza said: “The office of Sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement.” - Attorney General Jeff Sessions speaking at the National Sheriff's Association winter conference in DC. I expect some people will want to have some explanation on this. Expand It's been clear since day one Sessions was an easy target for Democrats to point to and cry racism for the whole Trump administration. His Southern slang and being denied a federal judgeship under Reagan because of some perceived racist statements he may have made in the past makes some people look for racism in anything he says. There's nothing wrong or racist about that statement.
Gary M Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 7:49 PM, Cugalabanza said: If you are a black sheriff listening to that speech, would you not find that offensive at all? Expand Not this one!!! 1
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