Mr. WEO Posted April 16, 2018 Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: What does one have to do with another? That's a false equivalency. (look it up) Jerry Jones did not do that during the National Anthem. He did it before the National Anthem. You should really know something about what you're using as an example. And I'm a grammar nit. Since I'm addressing you specifically as a Dumbass, I just figured it was better to capitalize it. Yes, they all kneeled beforehand....because they were afraid they would "lose their jobs"? No. Your false equivalence is in your equating getting fired (which is the meaning of "losing your job") and not being able to find work in your chosen profession. Not the same (you should lay off of the big words). Players were kneeling to the end of the season without repercussions. Why our own former WR Marquise Goodwin was putting that knee down weekly and his severe punishment was.....a $20 million contract renewal! How is that possible?? Isn't that the same team that Kaepernick "lost his job" from? And he's hardly the only kneeler rewarded with more money.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Edited April 23, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
aristocrat Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 She got paid. But how long will he be suspended? 1
T master Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 Have you heard the latest the girl friend is a lying little BIOTCH !! She made the entire thing up & told him if he were to leave her she would trash his career they need to take that little lying so & so & lock her ass up !! She got in a fight with another women & said it was him that hit her read it !! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/25/reuben-fosters-accuser-retracts-claim-of-domestic-violence/ 1
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, aristocrat said: She got paid. But how long will he be suspended? She should be prosecuted.
H2o Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, T master said: Have you heard the latest the girl friend is a lying little BIOTCH !! She made the entire thing up & told him if he were to leave her she would trash his career they need to take that little lying so & so & lock her ass up !! She got in a fight with another women & said it was him that hit her read it !! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/25/reuben-fosters-accuser-retracts-claim-of-domestic-violence/ If she indeed lied about the whole thing then she most certainly deserves to be prosecuted to the absolute fullest extent.
Rob's House Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 11:12 PM, The Frankish Reich said: I've worked in and around law enforcement for 20 years. Yes, it definitely can make sense. We don't know all the facts, but let me throw out one scenario that's quite common: - domestic violence incident - victim, or sometimes a neighbor or even a child calls police - police come, victim not cooperative - police assign investigator, victim learns a little about domestic violence, is convinced to cooperate - DA files charges And, of course, it works the other way too. Sometimes the victim tells the whole story, then recants. Or case goes to trial, jury impaneled, victim doesn't show (remember that case in the news a few months ago with the irate judge in Florida when this happened?) or gives weak "I don't really remember what happened/what I said" testimony. All I know is that the DA typically won't file charges unless he/she believes the crime has been committed and there's a reasonable likelihood of getting a conviction. Are DAs and cops perfect? No. Do they sometimes overreach? Sure. But in the vast majority of the time, the system chugs along to an appropriate decision, based on the evidence, of whether or not to prosecute. By the way, most cops I've known hate being called to the scene on domestic violence incidents. First, they're dangerous. Emotions are high, people are often impaired, they do irrational things. The ones who get assigned to longer term to investigate these cases, and the DAs who (usually voluntarily) take on these cases are people worthy of our admiration. It's tough. Victims (let's face it, 99% women) often change their stories - they've got other things to worry about like keeping marriages and homes and families together. They may fear their husbands/boyfriends, but more typically the husband/boyfriend goes into full pleading/desperation "I'll never do it again, I promise" mode, and it often works. These cops and DAs are remarkably patient, much more so than I ever could be ... it's a mess, but law enforcement usually takes some solace in the idea that maybe they're making things a little bit better, every now and then, by using the strong persuasion of the law to change behavior before it's too late ... This may be true in your jurisdiction but not in the ones I work in. For every case of legitimate domestic abuse I see there are at least 5 that have no business being in the court system. I don't necessarily blame the cops. In my state they're required by statute to make an arrest anytime they think they have probable cause in a DV case. And the prosecutors go forward even when the alleged victim doesn't want to, lest they lose their federal grants. The majority of people charged are men, but it's not as skewed as most people think. That's largely due to the fact that men are less likely to call the cops or report. Plus, often times the man gets charged regardless of who was at fault. I defended a 275 lb man who was accused of beating his 120 lb girlfriend. She had cuts in her mouth and a mark on her neck. It turns out he was trying to leave, she was enraged and kept hitting him and grabbing his bags. When he pulled her arm out of the bag she tried to bite him. Him pushing her face away while she persistently tried to bite him caused the marks. He showed me the scar from a previous bite from her months earlier. After spending several thousand dollars for my services he was found not guilty. That's a steep price for the crime of pissing off a violent woman and chosing not to let her beat him, bite him, and take his stuff. If he was a pro athlete half this board and 90% of the news media would have taken her report as gospel and had this guy convicted from the outset. 1
aristocrat Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, T master said: Have you heard the latest the girl friend is a lying little BIOTCH !! She made the entire thing up & told him if he were to leave her she would trash his career they need to take that little lying so & so & lock her ass up !! She got in a fight with another women & said it was him that hit her read it !! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/25/reuben-fosters-accuser-retracts-claim-of-domestic-violence/ You have a deep down hatred for women don’t you? Do you get excited when other crimes are found to be false police reports? Like...yea that biotch was committing insurance fraud! Got her!
T master Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rob's House said: This may be true in your jurisdiction but not in the ones I work in. For every case of legitimate domestic abuse I see there are at least 5 that have no business being in the court system. I don't necessarily blame the cops. In my state they're required by statute to make an arrest anytime they think they have probable cause in a DV case. And the prosecutors go forward even when the alleged victim doesn't want to, lest they lose their federal grants. The majority of people charged are men, but it's not as skewed as most people think. That's largely due to the fact that men are less likely to call the cops or report. Plus, often times the man gets charged regardless of who was at fault. I defended a 275 lb man who was accused of beating his 120 lb girlfriend. She had cuts in her mouth and a mark on her neck. It turns out he was trying to leave, she was enraged and kept hitting him and grabbing his bags. When he pulled her arm out of the bag she tried to bite him. Him pushing her face away while she persistently tried to bite him caused the marks. He showed me the scar from a previous bite from her months earlier. After spending several thousand dollars for my services he was found not guilty. That's a steep price for the crime of pissing off a violent woman and chosing not to let her beat him, bite him, and take his stuff. If he was a pro athlete half this board and 90% of the news media would have taken her report as gospel and had this guy convicted from the outset. And that sir is BS plain and simple !! What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty ? I know there are a lot of scum bags out there but it goes both ways there are women that are just as bad if not worse i use to live with one as a young man but it's always the guy that is presumed guilty until proven innocent in these cases . I think Bill Burr called them Gold Digging Whores in one of his comedy skits & it's true !! Check it out it's funny but has a lot of truth in it ...
T master Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You have a deep down hatred for women don’t you? Do you get excited when other crimes are found to be false police reports? Like...yea that biotch was committing insurance fraud! Got her! No i just can't stand a liar i was raised with some moral standards & if you lie on some one bad enough that it can effect that persons future then they need to suffer some kind of consequences for their actions but i know today thats not politically correct . Just saying . Her daddy probably raised her to be a spoiled rotten little princess & got her way by throwing a temper tantrum with little to no discipline so she figures she can get away with what ever she wants with no repercussions .
Stank_Nasty Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) Brian banks always comes to my mind when I see stuff like this. Former USC blue chip LB. convicted of rape. Wastes his prime in prison for FIVE FREAKING YEARS and then “victim” admits it was made up. What a horrible thing to do. Just awful. Edited April 26, 2018 by Stank_Nasty
BringBackOrton Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 43 minutes ago, Rob's House said: This may be true in your jurisdiction but not in the ones I work in. For every case of legitimate domestic abuse I see there are at least 5 that have no business being in the court system. I don't necessarily blame the cops. In my state they're required by statute to make an arrest anytime they think they have probable cause in a DV case. And the prosecutors go forward even when the alleged victim doesn't want to, lest they lose their federal grants. The majority of people charged are men, but it's not as skewed as most people think. That's largely due to the fact that men are less likely to call the cops or report. Plus, often times the man gets charged regardless of who was at fault. I defended a 275 lb man who was accused of beating his 120 lb girlfriend. She had cuts in her mouth and a mark on her neck. It turns out he was trying to leave, she was enraged and kept hitting him and grabbing his bags. When he pulled her arm out of the bag she tried to bite him. Him pushing her face away while she persistently tried to bite him caused the marks. He showed me the scar from a previous bite from her months earlier. After spending several thousand dollars for my services he was found not guilty. That's a steep price for the crime of pissing off a violent woman and chosing not to let her beat him, bite him, and take his stuff. If he was a pro athlete half this board and 90% of the news media would have taken her report as gospel and had this guy convicted from the outset. So you're a !@#$ing lawyer? I knew there was a reason I didn't like you.
Sky Diver Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 Go back and read my posts. I knew there was something wrong about this case. Funny how the yahoos here wanted to convict Foster before the facts of the case came out. I guess because of his appearance or because of he went to Alabama, everyone thought that he was guilty. In the end, I was right. I will accept any and all apologies for the mistreatment I received for questioning the veracity of the woman’s claims. On 4/14/2018 at 7:46 AM, Sky Diver said: Innocent until proved guilty. A lot of piling on because of ignorance and jealousy. It took two months to decide whether there was enough evidence to charge Foster with a crime after he allegedly punched the woman in the head 8 - 10 times? So we are supposed to believe that the woman was allegedly punched in the head by a 230 lb football player 8 - 10 times and she only sustained bruises and a ruptured ear drum (which can be caused by a number of things)? How could something this vicious happen and there not be overwhelming evidence of a crime that would lead to immediate charges? The story sounds fishy. Maybe there is someone here in law enforcement who can make sense of it. The story didn’t pass the smell test. On 4/15/2018 at 12:05 AM, Sky Diver said: A ruptured ear drum can be caused by an ear infection or the pressure drop during a flight. Have you seen the medical report regarding the woman’s injuries? If she did in fact have a ruptured ear drum, how do you know it was caused by Foster? No one has any facts or details, yet y’all presume he is guilty. I am going to do the logical and reasonable thing and wait for the facts of the case to come out. If he is proved guilty, he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Innocent until proved guilty my friends. On 4/14/2018 at 11:48 PM, Sky Diver said: Not all dmv accusations are true, but the lynch mob menality here wants to condemn Foster without knowing any of the facts or details of the case. This guy had his life ruined by false dmv allegations. https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/10/how-false-domestic-violence-charge-ruined-nba-career-j-delgado/ So many people here jumping to conclusions. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Go back and read my posts. I knew there was something wrong about this case. Funny how the yahoos here wanted to convict Foster before the facts of the case came out. I guess because of his appearance or because of he went to Alabama, everyone thought that he was guilty. In the end, I was right. I will accept any and all apologies for the mistreatment I received for questioning the veracity of the woman’s claims. The story didn’t pass the smell test. Well, the recantation doesn't really pass the smell test either. If you look back to my first comment in this thread, I mentioned that things like this happen a lot. Domestic violence reported. Husband/boyfriend arrested, or even given a trial date. Victim refuses to testify. Sometimes they want to keep the relationship going. Sometimes money (or the promise of money) has probably changed hands. Sometimes the victim realizes her story will be picked apart on cross. Sometimes it was embellished, or even made up. Bottom line is it's hard to know for sure exactly what happened. In a lot of these cases, we do have adults acting like children. 1
Sky Diver Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: Well sky diver you win this one. Thanks. 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, the recantation doesn't really pass the smell test either. If you look back to my first comment in this thread, I mentioned that things like this happen a lot. Domestic violence reported. Husband/boyfriend arrested, or even given a trial date. Victim refuses to testify. Sometimes they want to keep the relationship going. Sometimes money (or the promise of money) has probably changed hands. Sometimes the victim realizes her story will be picked apart on cross. Sometimes it was embellished, or even made up. Bottom line is it's hard to know for sure exactly what happened. In a lot of these cases, we do have adults acting like children. Allegedly there is video evidence that the woman’s injuries were caused by a fight with another woman. https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23318549/ex-girlfriend-49ers-lb-reuben-foster-recants-domestic-violence-claims%3Fplatform%3Damp
JoPar_v2 Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Thanks. No problem. I mean, something still stinks a out the whole situation, but if she recants then I am not gonna speculate to the reason why. Who knows, maybe Lynch and the 49ers knew more earlier and that’s why they didn’t axe the guy right away. Saban best coach ever
Bfanlc Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 There is supposedly video evidence of the exgf fighting another female and sustaining her injuries then. Recanting is one thing...providing video evidence is another.
JoPar_v2 Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bfanlc said: There is supposedly video evidence of the exgf fighting another female and sustaining her injuries then. Recanting is one thing...providing video evidence is another. Yes i’ve heard the same but if that video exists I am at a loss as to why the DA says they are still going to proceed with prosecuting the charges.
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