IgotBILLStopay Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-foles-free-agents-and-all-the-offseason-decisions-the-eagles-now-face/amp/ Several new outlets have been reporting that Philly's best option is to retain Foles as insurance till Wentz is fully healthy. I disagree. Philly has one of the worst cap situations in the league. See, for example, the link provided above. It is so bad that let alone Foles' 7 mill, even the 3 mill roster bonus that Philly will have to eat if Foles is not traded or released before March 16 might be difficult to stomach. Pederson's comments minutes after winning the super bowl where he was very reluctant to give a ringing endorsement to Foles ( he said one person does not make a team or something like that) as well as the fact that Foles' trade value might never be higher will likely ensure a Foles trade.
BuffaloDave55 Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 You think wrong. Wentz won't be ready till at least week 4. 1
whatdrought Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 They just showed that they can win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles but without Jason Peters. If push comes to shove they'd be better off getting rid of Peters.
#34fan Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 In world of uncertainty, Foles is a proven commodity... I'd offload a few other players before I even THINK about dealing him.... What if Wentz's knee blows out again in week 6?! Can Sudfeld take that team the rest of the way?
JPP Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Cant see the eagles getting rid of Foles next season especially if Wentz's health is not 100% week 1? But if they do i really hope the bills make a strong push to get him!
whatdrought Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I also think that Foles actually has more trade value in the preseason/mid-season due to injury. This is a pretty thick QB market (comparatively speaking) and teams might be hesitant to give up more than a 2nd for him. Come August-October and a starting QB on a team with playoff aspirations, or with a coach on the hot seat, and 1st round probably is much more realistic.
BillnutinHouston Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, #34fan said: In world of uncertainty, Foles is a proven commodity... Sounds like a movie trailer. 1 7
The Wiz Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Sounds like a movie trailer. In a league filled with backup QBs, only one has what it takes, to win it all... Wait wasn't that basically the movie "second string"???
Kelly the Dog Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 The thing is, if they don't get rid of him it could create a huge problem for the team, especially if Wentz is just about ready but not fully 100% when the season starts.
Bring it Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I think if the deal is right Philly will trade Foles. We’ve had a pretty good trade relationship with the Eagles. I could see it happening.
Tatonka68 Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) I might think about returning the 3rd round pick from the Darby Trade and the 5th Round pick from the Dareus Trade for Foles but that is it. Edited February 11, 2018 by Tatonka68
Kelly the Dog Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: I might think about returning the 3rd round pick from the Darby Trade and the 5th Round pick from the Dareus Trade for Foles but that is it. It's going to take a lot more than that. Not sure it is worth a lot more than that but probably is just on the 10-20% chance that he is going to be a franchise guy. If you consider that even though he may not be a franchise guy you got one of the very best backups in the league.
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 11, 2018 Author Posted February 11, 2018 Hmm the WSJ also says it is smart for Philly to trade Foles. https://www.wsj.com/articles/nick-foles-is-a-philadelphia-herotime-to-trade-him-1518105531 Foles is signed to a cheap contract that stays cheap if Philly trade him before next offseason. So it is a question of if and not when that Foles is traded (if he stays on the Philly roster in early 2019, he becomes a free agent and Philly will get nothing in return). The only question is the 2.4 million Philly will save if he is traded before March 16. Keeping him on as an insurance policy till the Wentz return can no doubt be worth that money - but the more teams address their draft needs through the FA market (Cousins, Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater, McCown)and the draft, the less attractive offers Philly will get (it reduces the market for Foles). And I think it will take at least one of Buffalo's first rounders to get him - all this talk of 2nd round picks etc. not going to cut it. I can see that a team with a top 10 pick and a legit shot at a franchise QB in this deep draft will not offer the draft pick. But Foles is certainly worth a late first rounder.
KD in CA Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I don't see them even considering trading him in the offseason. Maybe if/when Wentz comes back fully healthy and they can get a kings ransom out of some team who loses its QB mid-year they consider it.
Beast Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 They could always trade Foles and sign a veteran QB on a short term deal.
Fred Clause Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: I also think that Foles actually has more trade value in the preseason/mid-season due to injury. This is a pretty thick QB market (comparatively speaking) and teams might be hesitant to give up more than a 2nd for him. Come August-October and a starting QB on a team with playoff aspirations, or with a coach on the hot seat, and 1st round probably is much more realistic. Except it has to be a team that is contending that loses the Qb and has the 7 million in free cap space. The market is better when you have more teams bidding against each other... 3 hours ago, JPP said: Cant see the eagles getting rid of Foles next season especially if Wentz's health is not 100% week 1? But if they do i really hope the bills make a strong push to get him! Today’s ACL injuries heal as fast as 6 months. He will be ready for training camp...
GunnerBill Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: And I think it will take at least one of Buffalo's first rounders to get him - all this talk of 2nd round picks etc. not going to cut it. I can see that a team with a top 10 pick and a legit shot at a franchise QB in this deep draft will not offer the draft pick. But Foles is certainly worth a late first rounder. No way I give a 1st for Nick Foles. Not a chance. I'd despair if this team did that. 2
Real McClappy Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: The thing is, if they don't get rid of him it could create a huge problem for the team, especially if Wentz is just about ready but not fully 100% when the season starts. Not even that, if Wentz shows any struggles next year the fan base and Media will be going nutty to start Foles. What a flavored popcorn pickle Philly has to deal with. 1 1
Kelly the Dog Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Not even that, if Wentz shows any struggles next year the fan base and Media will be going nutty to start Foles. What a flavored popcorn pickle Philly has to deal with. That is exactly what I meant. And it could go any number of bad ways. Foles starts the season and plays poorly but they win almost all of them... and now Wentz is ready. Foles plays the first few games and is quite good but not great, and now Wentz is ready and half the team thinks Wentz is the guy and half think Foles is. Wentz has a quick recovery and starts the season but is only average and the fans want Foles. IMO there is more possible trouble that good situations.
#34fan Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Not even that, if Wentz shows any struggles next year the fan base and Media will be going nutty to start Foles. What a flavored popcorn pickle Philly has to deal with. They'll cannibalize Wentz in half a heartbeat... City of brotherly love my a__!
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