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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Like the Redskins did with RG3 and Cousins. Don't trade up but take the QB that falls to you, plus a next-rung QB in a lower round like White or Lauletta? As a hedge against busting out our as an asset to deal later? 

IF we did that we would need to cut Peterman or have Peterman as the vet QB.  I think all options are on the table and up for discussion.

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2 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

This post is nonsense.  How exactly does a team develop two great QBs at the same time?   Are the QBs alternating snaps or games or what?    And how would a team even know if both were busts after only one year if they were constantly being shuffled in and out of the line-up?   I suppose you were one of those who declared Jared Goff a bust last season or have annointed DeShon Watson the greatest QB of all time based on his limited rookie season.

No.  Watson could be the next RG3 or Vince Young. I know quarterbacks have struggled under Jeff Fisher so I was never willing to write Goff off after one year.

 

As for drafting two QB's in the first round it never is going to happen, but it would be interesting as a hypothetical.  You can develop two quarterbacks at the same time.  Offensive coaches can multitask.   Then there's a competition for starter like the Bills had in 2015 (that was a 3 way competition) so I'm guessing you'd split the reps with the 1st team.  You'd have them both start preseason games and let the best man win the starting role.  The backup learns from the bench.  It's such a good QB class and franchise QB's are so hard to find that why not double your chances of finding your guy?  I regret the one year comment as you're correct as it's difficult to determine if a QB is a bust after one year.  Even the Chargers kept Ryan Leaf for three years.

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17 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

We have no bigger need than QB.

You don’t draft 2 QBs. You use the resources to go get a QB. You must understand that? That’s why the Eagles, Rams, etc... trades up instead of staying put and taking whatever was left and another later. 

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I am kind of with Kirby. I'd rather use picks to get up and take the one we want in the top 5 and sign a vet. 

 

However, if you get to your pick in round 4 and a QB you have a 2nd round grade on is still sitting there sticking out as the BPA then yes, do it. But it needs to be that level of obvious for me. 

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If they don't trade the King's Ransom to move up and get their guy, then yes. I'd draft one in the 21st or 22nd slot and another one in the 3rd or 4th. If, on the other hand, they feel strongly enough to move up, I'd live with Peterman as the backup.

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No.  Assuming you keep Peterman and draft one in the first, the 3rd QB needs to be a vet to provide short term starter capability and longer term mentoring.

 

Not a good plan to go with 2 rookies and 1 second year QB,

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

As long as they plan on addressing WR, LB, RB, OL and DL via free agency.

 

I wouldn't use more than a 3rd or 4th on WR, LB or RB. 

 

Spend you draft picks on OL and DL.  They need O and D line rebuilt.  You have nothing at DT, and at least 2 maybe 3 holes on OL. 

 

Until the Bills find a QB, who really cares about WR. 

 

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41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You don’t draft 2 QBs. You use the resources to go get a QB. You must understand that? That’s why the Eagles, Rams, etc... trades up instead of staying put and taking whatever was left and another later. 

The Redskins traded up AND drafted 2 QB's.

 

It's not binary.

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6 minutes ago, Dalton said:

No.  Assuming you keep Peterman and draft one in the first, the 3rd QB needs to be a vet to provide short term starter capability and longer term mentoring.

 

Not a good plan to go with 2 rookies and 1 second year QB,

 

Yeah.  Buffalo already tried that a few years ago.

 

 

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2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Like the Redskins did with RG3 and Cousins. Don't trade up but take the QB that falls to you, plus a next-rung QB in a lower round like White or Lauletta? As a hedge against busting out our as an asset to deal later? 

 

..or the '89 Cowgirls with Aikman & Walsh....."1 and 1A" I think they called it...........

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14 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

The Redskins traded up AND drafted 2 QB's.

 

It's not binary.

It happened once (that I can think of) and arguably the worst owner in sports was at the helm. Trade up and have a vet, that’s the best course.

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18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It happened once (that I can think of) and arguably the worst owner in sports was at the helm. Trade up and have a vet, that’s the best course.

 

The issue there if the stories are true is Shananhan wanted Cousins all along. The owner and GM wanted RGIII. 

 

In the end it kind of worked for Washington and they still found a way to balls it up. Just what they do. 

 

What about my very specific circumstances Kirbs.... you have traded up and taken say Rosen at #3 given up both 1s and a 2 to do it and then you are there mid 4th and the guy sticking out as the BPA by your board is a QB with a 2nd round grade... a full round higher than your next BPA - say the White kid. Very hypothetical I know but are you still saying "no"? 

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