Would you draft 2 QBs?

[FearLess Price]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You don’t draft 2 QBs. You use the resources to go get a QB. You must understand that? That’s why the Eagles, Rams, etc... trades up instead of staying put and taking whatever was left and another later. 

 

Exactly. Trade up.

 

If yiu get thd right QB you wont need another one 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The issue there if the stories are true is Shananhan wanted Cousins all along. The owner and GM wanted RGIII. 

 

In the end it kind of worked for Washington and they still found a way to balls it up. Just what they do. 

 

What about my very specific circumstances Kirbs.... you have traded up and taken say Rosen at #3 given up both 1s and a 2 to do it and then you are there mid 4th and the guy sticking out as the BPA by your board is a QB with a 2nd round grade... a full round higher than your next BPA - say the White kid. Very hypothetical I know but are you still saying "no"? 

I suppose that I could get behind that. If only, Rosen or Baker is the pick. I think that they can act as vets/day 1 guys. With FA being first though the Bills will already have a guy capable of starting opening day. Not sure it actually works unless they cut Tyrod and punt on a decent vet.

[BillsFan130]

Fair question, but I would prefer to draft a QB high in the 1st, then bring in a veteran.

 

If they do draft 2 QBS, I wonder would it would mean for Nate Peterman? Probably cut?

 

Unless they decide to carry 3 young QBS, but I think that would be unlikely

Edited February 10, 2018 by billsfan11

[xRUSHx]

I love the idea of taking two with 21-22 If both were one of the top 6 from this draft. You find the one you like the most and sell the other for a kings ransom, sure it does not add to this year's roster but it give us two real chances to land the better one while the other gives us our draft pick and then some back IMO. Maybe even trade him during this draft for more picks, player and a 1st in next year's draft. 

To have 3 QBs on rookie contracts fighting to be the franchise guy is something this team has never done. With QB stock at a premium buy low sell high.

 

Rudolph and Allen is a possibility.

 

Doubt it would happen but one hell of a idea IMO.

6 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Fair question.

 

If they do draft 2 QBS, I wonder would it would mean for Nate Peterman? Probably cut?

 

Unless they decide to carry 3 young QBS, but I think that would be unlikely

Peterman would end up backup to whomever wins the battle IMO with the other being traded at a maximum price.

 

Of course two would have to be there at 21-22, highly unlikely but man that sure would get another team mad thinking they would get one of them after the Bills pick and boom we take both..

Edited February 10, 2018 by xRUSHx

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, xRUSHx said:

I love the idea of taking two with 21-22 If both were one of the top 6 from this draft. You find the one you like the most and sell the other for a kings ransom, sure it does not add to this year's roster but it give us two real chances to land the better one while the other gives us our draft pick and then some back IMO. Maybe even trade him during this draft for more picks, player and a 1st in next year's draft. 

To have 3 QBs on rookie contracts fighting to be the franchise guy is something this team has never done. With QB stock at a premium buy low sell high.

 

Rudolph and Allen is a possibility.

 

Doubt it would happen but one hell of a idea IMO.

I would personally prefer to trade both those picks to get a QB higher. 

 

I would rather the Bills get the 1st or 2nd best QB in the draft, rather than have both the 3rd and 4th best

[xRUSHx]

1 minute ago, billsfan11 said:

I would personally prefer to trade both those picks to get a QB higher. 

 

I would rather the Bills get the 1st or 2nd best QB in the draft, rather than have both the 3rd and 4th best

I agree but this is just throwing ideas around.

Edited February 10, 2018 by xRUSHx

[Paulus]

Now, would you draft 2 QBs in the first round?!

[The Jokeman]

6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Like the Redskins did with RG3 and Cousins. Don't trade up but take the QB that falls to you, plus a next-rung QB in a lower round like White or Lauletta? As a hedge against busting out our as an asset to deal later? 

The Redskins did it another time with Heath Shuler and Gus Frerotte. It's not a bad plan but think would need to do it with a later pick aka Round 6 or 7, so would do if can acquire a few more picks in the 3rd day of the draft.

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, mead107 said:

 No, to many other needs

QB should always be NEED

[TigerJ]

I might in some circumstances.  I would not anticipate doing so in the upcoming draft primarily because I have not written off Nate Peterman.  I woud most certainly draft one QB and then plan for a competition in training camp with Peterman, the rookie and the veteran I plan on signing.

[Formerly Allan in MD]

15 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The Redskins did it another time with Heath Shuler and Gus Frerotte. It's not a bad plan but think would need to do it with a later pick aka Round 6 or 7, so would do if can acquire a few more picks in the 3rd day of the draft.

That was a typical Redskin scenario.  Shuler wouldn't sign, missed most of his rookie preseason, and never caught up.  Yet they continued to play him in the hopes he'd earn his pay.  Frerotte was promising until he celebrated a touchdown throw by concussing himself or severely spraining his neck when, in celebrating, he banged his head into a concrete wall.  No joke.

[PromoTheRobot]

What if the Bills drafted a QB at 21, traded down pick 22, and got a 2nd QB with the extra picks in the 3rd or 4th round?

[Section242]

14 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You don’t draft 2 QBs. You use the resources to go get a QB. You must understand that? That’s why the Eagles, Rams, etc... trades up instead of staying put and taking whatever was left and another later. 

 

I agree to an extent. After 5th rd maybe even after 4th if the guy is on the roster in two years it's a decent pick.  If it costs both 1sts a 2nd and a later rd pick to move up to get Darnold or Rosen I'd rather do that than take 2 QB's.

 

Draft capital to me is like a new car. It's always more valuable until a player is picked.

[ALF]

I would rather draft 1 QB , get a bridge QB or keep Taylor. I hope Daboll can develop Peterman instead of drafting 2 QBs.

 

Important  for any QB is a OL that can pass protect. 

[Chicken Boo]

17 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Like the Redskins did with RG3 and Cousins. Don't trade up but take the QB that falls to you, plus a next-rung QB in a lower round like White or Lauletta? As a hedge against busting out our as an asset to deal later? 

 

The Skins drafted 2 QBs only because Snyder had to have RGIII.  Shanahan was against it.

Edited February 10, 2018 by Chicken Boo

[die hard bills fan]

yes and yes.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

The Skins drafted 2 QBs only because Snyder had to have RGIII.  Shanahan was against it.

The why isn't so important as the end result. It may not have been the smartest front office decision ever but it did work out when RG3 became injured. I don't know. If a Lauletta were still there in the 4th, is it that crazy?

[BringBackOrton]

16 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It happened once (that I can think of) and arguably the worst owner in sports was at the helm. Trade up and have a vet, that’s the best course.

Precedent.

 

If they didn't mishandle the negotiations 6 years later, they would have had their franchise QB for a long time. It literally worked for them.

[Kirby Jackson]

14 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

Precedent.

 

If they didn't mishandle the negotiations 6 years later, they would have had their franchise QB for a long time. It literally worked for them.

It did. The Cowboys once used a supplemental 1st round pick on a QB. They took another the next year in the 1st and he went to the HOF. Still no team has done it again almost 30 years later. 

 

So while precedent exists in both cases there is a reason that teams don’t do it more. It’s a poor strategy and use of assets. 

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It did. The Cowboys once used a supplemental 1st round pick on a QB. They took another the next year in the 1st and he went to the HOF. Still no team has done it again almost 30 years later. 

 

So while precedent exists in both cases there is a reason that teams don’t do it more. It’s a poor strategy and use of assets. 

What makes it unlikely that Buffalo or most teams  draft two qbs in the same draft is that there is much  more qb movement in this cap era. Take Minnesota as an example. They have three qbs on the roster, Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford. Bradford is likely to move on and there is a possibility that one of the two others could move on for contract reasons. 

 

There are just more qb options in this era. The Skins could not get a deal done with Cousins. So they dealt for Alex Smith. It must be noted that Alex Smith made it clear to KC that if he were to be traded that he wasn't going to sign a deal if that team was going to use a high pick on a qb. Washington assured him so a deal was consummated and a contract was signed.