Doc Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 McCarron is only getting $5M/year for 2 years. The Bills signing him doesn't rule out Foles.
Tyrod's friend Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 At the start of this process, I believed the Bills should move mountains to get Foles. That was idiocy and I was wrong. QBs in the NFL do not become more accurate. Outside of 2013, Nick Foles completion percentage is barely over 58%. Would you trade the 22nd pick away for Trevor Siemian? Frankly if the Eagles were offered anything higher that a late third round pick they were fools to turn it down. I certainly wouldn't go that high for Trevor, or Brock Osweiler or similarly tragically inaccurate QBs. Those are the true comps for Nick, 2013 and the Super Bowl be damned.
3rdand12 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 7:37 PM, Alphadawg7 said: I think AJ nixes all possibility we both draft a QB and trade for Foles. HOWEVER: Beane has said they will take the best player on their board at 12 if they stay put, and it may not be a QB. And I think there is truth in that, and could take a top LB there if there isnt a QB they like more. So if that happens, and we keep going in the draft and get into the 2nd round and still haven't drafted a QB, I think its quite possible they call Eagles about Foles for say one of our 2nds to pair him with AJ. Then AJ is their upside play this year and they let AJ and Foles battle it out and see what happens. So I dont think Foles is completely off the table, but I would say he only comes into the conversation if the draft is falling in a way where we haven't take a QB yet and scooped other prospects higher on our board. But I still think plan A is a QB in the first. how the draft falls and what the Bills like in the form of QB via the draft are too much to consider for me. Can only guess. and i hedge my wagers plenty ! Good post and i feel similar about Foles value at this point. And we really do not know what the market will bear or who else will be in pursuit post draft. That is when the paradigm shift occurs and most all will hit reset to fill their rosters. 1
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Haha, this Foles thing is hilarious. Dude doesn’t have 16 good games under his belt. The Eagles would jump at a 3rd and just sign some journey man to replace him.
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) On 3/25/2018 at 2:07 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Said this many times in various Foles' threads. He would definitely not be the same player. He would have a new contract negotiated at the time of the trade which would give him fat stacks of cash which is part of the point of playing football. Not just necessarily being in a great system with great coaches where you are the back up cheering somebody else on. I am not saying he's worth it and I am not saying anything bad about the guy. However, it is just the reality of it. I mean what if the guy blows out his knee in spot duty this coming year? Someone once told me it is better to have that happen at 3 years, 60 million with 25 million guaranteed than on a 7.5 million dollar deal. ...or I read it in a book. Edited March 27, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts
BBillsWestCoast Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Foles will get signed next year for 20+ million a year by AZ, Buffalo or Miami. Whomever loses the QB search this year will use him as a bridge QB to build around. He looks great with a clipboard or for a Napoleon Dynamite Sequel. Edited March 27, 2018 by BBillsWestCoast edit 1
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) On 3/25/2018 at 2:07 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Said this many times in various Foles' threads. I’m with this 100%, but it makes me ask another question. Why can’t NFL coaches do more to coach to player strengths? Why is Pederson the only guy who can get the most out of Foles? I’ll never understand NFL coaches marriages to their “systems”. Edited March 27, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 2
26CornerBlitz Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I’m with this 100%, but it makes me ask another question. Why can’t NFL coaches do more to coach to player strengths? Why is Pederson the only guy who can get the most out of Foles? I’ll never understand NFL coaches marriages to their “systems”. Pure stubbornness. But the best coaches at any level adapt systems to take advantage of player strengths.
whatdrought Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 There are about 20 teams in the NFL that realistically expect to be contending for a playoff spot by the end of October. Between then and now, at least one will loose their starting QB to a season ending injury. That team will gladly give up a first or more for Foles.
gobills1212 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: I’m with this 100%, but it makes me ask another question. Why can’t NFL coaches do more to coach to player strengths? Why is Pederson the only guy who can get the most out of Foles? I’ll never understand NFL coaches marriages to their “systems”. Doc and I have had some good talks to this point:)
707BillsFan Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 10 pages in, did we figure out if Foles is going anywhere? Grocery store? Bathroom? Another team once Philly realizes Wentz is okay and they have a suitable back up.
Bing Bong Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 8:54 PM, horned dogs said: Why if we're going to draft one of the project QBs anyway? Better to have a guy who has shown he can at least play in the league. I said I liked the idea of Foles.
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