Josh McDaniels Withdraws from Colts' HC Job

[Nihilarian]

This maybe goes back to the hate between the Colts vs Patriots with Manning, Brady vying for the AFC Championship year after year.  Robert Kraft stepped in and probably told McDaniels that he would take over as the Patriots HC next year. Thus keeping that high scoring offense with Brady intact this year for continuity.

 

Greedy bastards want more rings and to keep the lock on the AFC EAST going as long as they can. 

 

Anyway it shapes up I know I wouldn't want to work for Jim Irsay either

[PatsFanNH]

44 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It's still a d-bag move when you think about all of the assistant coaches who committed to the Colts to be a part of his staff.  Your attempt to defend the indefensible is pathetic. 

I was defending them against an idiot accusation. And also I never defended him I defended the team. 

[NoSaint]

13 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

My read on this is that mcdaniels is more scared than anything else. He’s got a good thing going with brady. Probably still skittish about his prior failures.  

 

I suspect once brady retires, mcdaniels’ Star is going to plummet and he will have missed his window.

 

Or he decided that he was too good to work for a dysfunctional franchise with what might be an active addict running the show if his current employer was willing to step up 

[PatsFanNH]

34 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said:

While what you say is correct in terms to the new job offer, you assume that there has been nothing signed by McDaniels. You don't know that.

 

I would be shocked if the Colts had been promoting and announcing McDaniels as their HC without at minimum a Letter of Understanding. In that letter, if there is one there could very well be parameters lined out for what would happen should McDaniels or the Colts change their mind if the agreement falls through. That would give the NFL ample power to step in.

 

As I stated however it's not known by anyone if in fact there has been a letter signed. I'm sure we will hear much more as it all plays out.

Again I was defending the Pats, not McDaniels. I don't know what he signed but the accusation the Pats were breaking contract law was just false is all I was getting at.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Or he decided that he was too good to work for a dysfunctional franchise with what might be an active addict running the show if his current employer was willing to step up 

 

Yeah, but then why agree to it and change course? He knew what he was getting to with Irsay et al to start with. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

 

Yeah, but then why agree to it and change course? He knew what he was getting to with Irsay et al to start with. 

Supposedly that's why they had the second interview he was nervous and not sure he wanted this job. The second interview was with airway in the room.. one thing is for sure as a writer upnhere wrote he is "radioactive" for any other job but NE now as far as HC goes.

[Virgil]

Yeah, McDaniels just hosed himself out of any future offers. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Billicheat leaves in a way that hoses everyone. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

FYI, I think they are going to hire Dave Toub. They never felt like Josh was 100% committed and he was plan B. We will see, but it’s what I heard.

 

I think this would be a smart hire.  I think Toub is a good football mind with a lot of experience and would like to see him get a shot.

 

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Jeff Fisher says he’s “interested” 

 

How nice for him.  If the Colts are interested back, they deserve what they get.

 

3 hours ago, stony said:

Meh, McD fleeced Kraft for a raise.  Smart career move on his part.  Irsay is a kook.

 

Maybe.  But Irsay was the same kook before McD interviewed, verbally committed, and hired a bunch of assistants on his word that he was taking the gig.

 

2 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

 

Oh please.  There are dozens of men ready and willing and prepared to step in and be a head coach.  It’s football not rocket science.

dont overcomplicate it and stop thrusting this hyperbolic nonsense to rile people up.  Not you obviously but Schefter.

 

I don't think it's "overcomplicated" to point out that on McDaniel's word that he was in, the Colts hired a bunch of people who uprooted their lives thinking they had a job.  Now the Colts have a hard choice:

1) hire a different HC, but tell him he doesn't get to pick his own guys as every other HC does

2) behave like a douchebag themselves by throwing the guys they just signed off the boat

Edited February 7, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan

[4merper4mer]

19 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Or he decided that he was too good to work for a dysfunctional franchise with what might be an active addict running the show if his current employer was willing to step up 

Then why did he take the job in the first place?   And I suppose that dysfunctional organization is just fine for the guys he hired.......but not him?  SCUM

Edited February 7, 2018 by 4merper4mer

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Supposedly that's why they had the second interview he was nervous and not sure he wanted this job. The second interview was with airway in the room.. one thing is for sure as a writer upnhere wrote he is "radioactive" for any other job but NE now as far as HC goes.

 

It's really about the assistants IMO.   He apparently got guys to uproot their families, move to Indianapolis, and start sweating, on their trust in his word that he was taking the gig.

It's fair enough for McD to be leary of Irsay, but then keep his talks with assistants on the "if I do this...are you interested?" level, don't be definite to your men when you're still a waffle between the ears.  That's not a leader.

[Manther]

4 hours ago, frogger said:

I bet he was told Old Billy is nearing the end and he’s next up

I would agree with that an some extra cash to wait.  If there is even a wait.  Maybe BB will retire in the coming days?

Edited February 7, 2018 by Manther

[Hapless Bills Fan]

54 minutes ago, Gugny said:

He reserved the right to change his mind just as much as the Colts did.

And I can't STAND Josh McDaniels.

 

Again, change his mind fine, but don't recruit people "I'm in - are you in with me?" and get them to uproot their lives and move to  Ind thinking they're working for him.

That's some scumbag shite.

[Manther]

4 hours ago, joesixpack said:

well, he's from belichick's tree. you know....

 

"The HC of the NYJ."

 

Exactly 

[Mango]

Plot twist: New “good-guy Irsay” also feels slighted. He mails McDaniels a certified letter and check for $20,000. The leter states, that by cashing the check, he understands said money can only be used for his (McDaniels) funeral. Included in the envelope is a single post it note that reads “You’re dead to me”

[Rocky Landing]

As I read this, I wonder if, along with monetary incentives, Kraft* didn't express a desire for McDaniels* to succeed Bellichick* upon his retirement, which one would assume would coincide with Brady's* retirement?

[Fadingpain]

Interesting development, but if it's true that McDaniels was told he's heir apparent when BB retires, I can't blame the guy one bit...especially when you consider he has a family and is rooted in the Boston area and prefers New England to Indianapolis.

I do too!

 

 

[4merper4mer]

11 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Interesting development, but if it's true that McDaniels was told he's heir apparent when BB retires, I can't blame the guy one bit...especially when you consider he has a family and is rooted in the Boston area and prefers New England to Indianapolis.

I do too!

 

 

Screw his hires and their families, right?

[Fadingpain]

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

Screw his hires and their families, right?

What hires?  He didn't form a staff in Indianapolis.

 

 

[4merper4mer]

7 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

What hires?  He didn't form a staff in Indianapolis.

 

 

Ummmm....not the whole staff but you may want to start from the beginning.  He hired several including a D C and there were reports he was making offers earlier today.

[BillsFan692]

It's called counting chickens before their hatched. Indi can only blame themselves for the mismanagement.