B-Man Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 IGNORED HISTORY: Columbus Sought To End Islamic Tyranny. When President Benjamin Harrison issued his “Proclamation 335 -- 400th Anniversary of the Discovery of America by Columbus,” on July 21, 1892, he emphasized how the great discoverer pioneered “progress and enlightenment,” reflected four centuries later in America’s system of universal education: Columbus stood in his age as the pioneer of progress and enlightenment. The system of universal education is in our age the most prominent and salutary feature of the spirit of enlightenment, and it is peculiarly appropriate that the schools be made by the people the center of the day's demonstration. President Harrison also highlighted the patriotic motivations for the holiday, and the shared “devout faith” -- Christianity -- of Columbus and the American people, so abundantly blessed by “Divine Providence”: Let the national flag float over every schoolhouse in the country and the exercises be such as shall impress upon our youth the patriotic duties of American citizenship. In the churches and in the other places of assembly of the people let there be expressions of gratitude to Divine Providence for the devout faith of the discoverer and for the divine care and guidance which has directed our history and so abundantly blessed our people. As we celebrate Columbus Day -- for those of us still inoculated enough against cultural relativist depravity to do so -- it is also worth recapturing concretely the specific late 15th century religious motivations for Columbus’ voyage. Simply put, Columbus sought “eastern (even far eastern) alliances” to end a millennium of Islam’s jihad-imposed tyranny against Christendom. Louis Bertrand’s scholarly 1934 tome, The History of Spain, elegantly -- and unapologetically -- characterized the now well-nigh forgotten, or ignored, historical context. When the Spanish Christian monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella recaptured Granada on January 2, 1492, they ended almost eight centuries of jihad ravages (described by Bertrand in 1934, and in 2016 here) -- massacres, pillage, mass enslavement, and deportation -- and the grinding imposition of Sharia by Spain’s various pious Muslim conquerors, and rulers. Bertrand’s unsparing narrative describes the bitter, chronic fate of Spain’s Christians under Islam, both those fully subjugated and the populations never entirely subdued in the semi-autonomous northern regions: The Christians of the interior were mastered. They had lost their leaders and their principal centers of resistance. The armies of the Caliph, the Arab and Berber chieftains, had massacred them, burned them out and pillaged them to the best of their ability. Thus decimated and humiliated, they nevertheless continued to exist, in a furtive and more or less precarious way of life … The Christians of the North scarcely knew the meaning of repose, security, or any of the amenities of life. They were continually at war with their Musulman [Muslim] neighbors. It was the fatality of that Arab conquest, a superficial and hasty conquest, never carried through to the end, that it had divided the country into two irreducible camps: that of the replete, and that of the hungry; those who held the best soil, and those who were relegated to the mountains or to desert plains…[The Muslims] interposed a desert between themselves and the Christians, and made a waste of the region which lay on the left bank of the latter [Duero] river. This was what they called “the Great Desert.” … To keep the Christians in their place it did not suffice to surround them with a zone of famine and devastation. It was necessary also to go and sew terror and massacre among them. Twice a year, in spring and autumn, an army sallied forth from Cordova to go and raid the Christians, destroy their villages, their fortified posts, their monasteries and their churches, except when it was a question of expeditions of larger scope, involving sieges and pitched battles. In cases of simply punitive expeditions, the soldiers of the Caliph confined themselves to destroying harvests and cutting down trees. Most of the time they took the field to win booty. A district was allowed to re-people itself and be brought under cultivation; then it was suddenly fallen upon. Workers, harvesters, fruits and cattle were seized. The religious Islamic jihad motivations for this devastation, and related “pious,” sadistic savagery of their triumphal execution, were underscored by Bertrand: If one bears in mind that this brigandage was almost continual, and that this fury of destruction and extermination was regarded as a work of piety -- it was a holy war against the infidels -- it is not surprising that whole regions of Spain should have been made irremediably sterile. This was one of the capital causes of the deforestation from which the [Iberian] Peninsula still suffers. With what savage satisfaction and in what pious accents do the Arab annalists tell us of those at least bi-annual raids! More at the link:
keepthefaith Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, B-Man said: . Yeah but those claims are from over 30 years ago. Oh wait?! Edited October 9, 2018 by keepthefaith
DC Tom Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, B-Man said: IGNORED HISTORY: Columbus Sought To End Islamic Tyranny. When President Benjamin Harrison issued his “Proclamation 335 -- 400th Anniversary of the Discovery of America by Columbus,” on July 21, 1892, he emphasized how the great discoverer pioneered “progress and enlightenment,” reflected four centuries later in America’s system of universal education: Columbus stood in his age as the pioneer of progress and enlightenment. The system of universal education is in our age the most prominent and salutary feature of the spirit of enlightenment, and it is peculiarly appropriate that the schools be made by the people the center of the day's demonstration. President Harrison also highlighted the patriotic motivations for the holiday, and the shared “devout faith” -- Christianity -- of Columbus and the American people, so abundantly blessed by “Divine Providence”: Let the national flag float over every schoolhouse in the country and the exercises be such as shall impress upon our youth the patriotic duties of American citizenship. In the churches and in the other places of assembly of the people let there be expressions of gratitude to Divine Providence for the devout faith of the discoverer and for the divine care and guidance which has directed our history and so abundantly blessed our people. As we celebrate Columbus Day -- for those of us still inoculated enough against cultural relativist depravity to do so -- it is also worth recapturing concretely the specific late 15th century religious motivations for Columbus’ voyage. Simply put, Columbus sought “eastern (even far eastern) alliances” to end a millennium of Islam’s jihad-imposed tyranny against Christendom. Louis Bertrand’s scholarly 1934 tome, The History of Spain, elegantly -- and unapologetically -- characterized the now well-nigh forgotten, or ignored, historical context. When the Spanish Christian monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella recaptured Granada on January 2, 1492, they ended almost eight centuries of jihad ravages (described by Bertrand in 1934, and in 2016 here) -- massacres, pillage, mass enslavement, and deportation -- and the grinding imposition of Sharia by Spain’s various pious Muslim conquerors, and rulers. Bertrand’s unsparing narrative describes the bitter, chronic fate of Spain’s Christians under Islam, both those fully subjugated and the populations never entirely subdued in the semi-autonomous northern regions: The Christians of the interior were mastered. They had lost their leaders and their principal centers of resistance. The armies of the Caliph, the Arab and Berber chieftains, had massacred them, burned them out and pillaged them to the best of their ability. Thus decimated and humiliated, they nevertheless continued to exist, in a furtive and more or less precarious way of life … The Christians of the North scarcely knew the meaning of repose, security, or any of the amenities of life. They were continually at war with their Musulman [Muslim] neighbors. It was the fatality of that Arab conquest, a superficial and hasty conquest, never carried through to the end, that it had divided the country into two irreducible camps: that of the replete, and that of the hungry; those who held the best soil, and those who were relegated to the mountains or to desert plains…[The Muslims] interposed a desert between themselves and the Christians, and made a waste of the region which lay on the left bank of the latter [Duero] river. This was what they called “the Great Desert.” … To keep the Christians in their place it did not suffice to surround them with a zone of famine and devastation. It was necessary also to go and sew terror and massacre among them. Twice a year, in spring and autumn, an army sallied forth from Cordova to go and raid the Christians, destroy their villages, their fortified posts, their monasteries and their churches, except when it was a question of expeditions of larger scope, involving sieges and pitched battles. In cases of simply punitive expeditions, the soldiers of the Caliph confined themselves to destroying harvests and cutting down trees. Most of the time they took the field to win booty. A district was allowed to re-people itself and be brought under cultivation; then it was suddenly fallen upon. Workers, harvesters, fruits and cattle were seized. The religious Islamic jihad motivations for this devastation, and related “pious,” sadistic savagery of their triumphal execution, were underscored by Bertrand: If one bears in mind that this brigandage was almost continual, and that this fury of destruction and extermination was regarded as a work of piety -- it was a holy war against the infidels -- it is not surprising that whole regions of Spain should have been made irremediably sterile. This was one of the capital causes of the deforestation from which the [Iberian] Peninsula still suffers. With what savage satisfaction and in what pious accents do the Arab annalists tell us of those at least bi-annual raids! More at the link: Completely, stupidly false. Columbus sought a sea alternative to the Silk Road, and pitched it to everyone in Europe for ten years - even to the Portuguese, who lost interest when they developed the route around Africa. The Spanish court funded him because they needed trade with the Spice Islands to replenish their coffers after the Reconquista ended - not allies for it - and the Portuguese already claimed a monopoly on the only extant route. Columbus wasn't even Spanish - he was Genoan, and didn't give two ***** about Islam in Spain. 1
B-Man Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: Completely, stupidly false. Columbus sought a sea alternative to the Silk Road, and pitched it to everyone in Europe for ten years - even to the Portuguese, who lost interest when they developed the route around Africa. The Spanish court funded him because they needed trade with the Spice Islands to replenish their coffers after the Reconquista ended - not allies for it - and the Portuguese already claimed a monopoly on the only extant route. Columbus wasn't even Spanish - he was Genoan, and didn't give two ***** about Islam in Spain. LOL...................I win my bet (with myself) When I was posting it I said to myself................"Tom is the only one who will respond, and he will tear me a new one for posting garbage"........... What do I know, he referenced a (supposed) scholar's book from 1934, The History of Spain and quotes Benjamin Harrison..........I mean , who does that ? So, I threw it in here......... .
/dev/null Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 7 hours ago, DC Tom said: Completely, stupidly false. Columbus sought a sea alternative to the Silk Road, and pitched it to everyone in Europe for ten years - even to the Portuguese, who lost interest when they developed the route around Africa. The Spanish court funded him because they needed trade with the Spice Islands to replenish their coffers after the Reconquista ended - not allies for it - and the Portuguese already claimed a monopoly on the only extant route. Columbus wasn't even Spanish - he was Genoan, and didn't give two ***** about Islam in Spain. But the need for an alternative route to the silk road came after the fall of Constantinople and Islamic domination of the Eastern Mediterranean.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 The amount of stupid panic in this video is hilarious 5
Uncle Joe Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The amount of stupid panic in this video is hilarious I've had a whale pass underneath my 20' boat and it is an eerie feeling. They've also been known to flip a few boats. Had one come at my boat like a torpedo and breach. Pretty sure she was protecting her calf. They are BIG mammals! BTW, I'm calling the coast guard before I'm calling 911. 1
Tiberius Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 18 hours ago, B-Man said: IGNORED HISTORY: Columbus Sought To End Islamic Tyranny. When President Benjamin Harrison issued his “Proclamation 335 -- 400th Anniversary of the Discovery of America by Columbus,” on July 21, 1892, he emphasized how the great discoverer pioneered “progress and enlightenment,” reflected four centuries later in America’s system of universal education: Columbus stood in his age as the pioneer of progress and enlightenment. The system of universal education is in our age the most prominent and salutary feature of the spirit of enlightenment, and it is peculiarly appropriate that the schools be made by the people the center of the day's demonstration. President Harrison also highlighted the patriotic motivations for the holiday, and the shared “devout faith” -- Christianity -- of Columbus and the American people, so abundantly blessed by “Divine Providence”: Let the national flag float over every schoolhouse in the country and the exercises be such as shall impress upon our youth the patriotic duties of American citizenship. In the churches and in the other places of assembly of the people let there be expressions of gratitude to Divine Providence for the devout faith of the discoverer and for the divine care and guidance which has directed our history and so abundantly blessed our people. As we celebrate Columbus Day -- for those of us still inoculated enough against cultural relativist depravity to do so -- it is also worth recapturing concretely the specific late 15th century religious motivations for Columbus’ voyage. Simply put, Columbus sought “eastern (even far eastern) alliances” to end a millennium of Islam’s jihad-imposed tyranny against Christendom. Louis Bertrand’s scholarly 1934 tome, The History of Spain, elegantly -- and unapologetically -- characterized the now well-nigh forgotten, or ignored, historical context. When the Spanish Christian monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella recaptured Granada on January 2, 1492, they ended almost eight centuries of jihad ravages (described by Bertrand in 1934, and in 2016 here) -- massacres, pillage, mass enslavement, and deportation -- and the grinding imposition of Sharia by Spain’s various pious Muslim conquerors, and rulers. Bertrand’s unsparing narrative describes the bitter, chronic fate of Spain’s Christians under Islam, both those fully subjugated and the populations never entirely subdued in the semi-autonomous northern regions: The Christians of the interior were mastered. They had lost their leaders and their principal centers of resistance. The armies of the Caliph, the Arab and Berber chieftains, had massacred them, burned them out and pillaged them to the best of their ability. Thus decimated and humiliated, they nevertheless continued to exist, in a furtive and more or less precarious way of life … The Christians of the North scarcely knew the meaning of repose, security, or any of the amenities of life. They were continually at war with their Musulman [Muslim] neighbors. It was the fatality of that Arab conquest, a superficial and hasty conquest, never carried through to the end, that it had divided the country into two irreducible camps: that of the replete, and that of the hungry; those who held the best soil, and those who were relegated to the mountains or to desert plains…[The Muslims] interposed a desert between themselves and the Christians, and made a waste of the region which lay on the left bank of the latter [Duero] river. This was what they called “the Great Desert.” … To keep the Christians in their place it did not suffice to surround them with a zone of famine and devastation. It was necessary also to go and sew terror and massacre among them. Twice a year, in spring and autumn, an army sallied forth from Cordova to go and raid the Christians, destroy their villages, their fortified posts, their monasteries and their churches, except when it was a question of expeditions of larger scope, involving sieges and pitched battles. In cases of simply punitive expeditions, the soldiers of the Caliph confined themselves to destroying harvests and cutting down trees. Most of the time they took the field to win booty. A district was allowed to re-people itself and be brought under cultivation; then it was suddenly fallen upon. Workers, harvesters, fruits and cattle were seized. The religious Islamic jihad motivations for this devastation, and related “pious,” sadistic savagery of their triumphal execution, were underscored by Bertrand: If one bears in mind that this brigandage was almost continual, and that this fury of destruction and extermination was regarded as a work of piety -- it was a holy war against the infidels -- it is not surprising that whole regions of Spain should have been made irremediably sterile. This was one of the capital causes of the deforestation from which the [Iberian] Peninsula still suffers. With what savage satisfaction and in what pious accents do the Arab annalists tell us of those at least bi-annual raids! More at the link: The Jews were also forced out of Spain that year by Christians. The blind bigotry of the Christians was a complete disaster, as the Jews took the immense human capital out of the country with them. How'd that work for Spain? Even with all that gold and silver they deteriorated and slowly died. So while Columbus and the rest of the blood thirsty Conqustidors were enslaving natives to "save" them for Christ, bigotry was literally killing Spain. We see this today where immigrants are needed to build, work and contribute in the economy, but bigotry keeps them away.
B-Man Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Good news for me Tom, I no longer have the stupidest reply in the thread (see above) PLUS: 1
Deranged Rhino Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Silly question for Sherpa or Tom (or any Navy guys): Who cleans up the shells from the deck - if this were a combat situation and not a drill?
Nanker Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The amount of stupid panic in this video is hilarious The Police should arrest the a-holes. https://www.greateratlantic.fisheries.noaa.gov/protected/mmp/viewing/approaching/ You're not supposed to get within 100 yards of a whale... 500 yards if its a Right Whale. There are hundreds of whales in the Cape Cod Bay and they're all protected. Not sure where these lummoxes were, but If I had a big boat, I'd ram them. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The amount of stupid panic in this video is hilarious One of the most fabulous things I ever experienced on vacation was a mama + two baby orcas "playing" with the tour boat we were on when we were out sightseeing in Alaska! My husband, father, and I were standing out in the rain (because it rains a lot in Alaska) and these orcas just swam up and started racing the boat, dodging the boat (including swimming underneath), rolling, etc. That was 30 minutes I will never forget. It was simply amazing and even though my photos are crappy, I still cherish them. 1
DC Tom Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Silly question for Sherpa or Tom (or any Navy guys): Who cleans up the shells from the deck - if this were a combat situation and not a drill? Same people, drill or combat, I'd imagine. Historically, in combat, the shells just pile up until either combat's over, or they become an actual impediment to combat, because during combat no one has time for that ****. And it would be the gun crew's responsibility to clean up, in most cases. 1 hour ago, Nanker said: The Police should arrest the a-holes. https://www.greateratlantic.fisheries.noaa.gov/protected/mmp/viewing/approaching/ You're not supposed to get within 100 yards of a whale... 500 yards if its a Right Whale. There are hundreds of whales in the Cape Cod Bay and they're all protected. Not sure where these lummoxes were, but If I had a big boat, I'd ram them. Little difficult if the whales decide to get within 100 yards of you. 1
Prickly Pete Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 Not sure where to put this, but it seems relevant.... https://www.wmur.com/article/more-than-120-missing-children-found-in-michigan-human-trafficking-sting/23679022 1 1
DC Tom Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: Not sure where to put this, but it seems relevant.... https://www.wmur.com/article/more-than-120-missing-children-found-in-michigan-human-trafficking-sting/23679022 In a couple weeks, you're going to read articles about these kids being unfairly detained by the Trump Administration. 1
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