Mikie2times Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) I like mocks but I prefer to use the simulation sites and some guidelines. This is a pretty neat site I saw linked last year: https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock For these 3 mocks I had to select a player that was within the top 10 best players available, the number to the right of the player is his best player available rankings on the overall boards for each of these mocks. Obviously you see a large range of how these simulators project players which is why I used 3 different versions. Curious to what other direction some of you might go with the same settings and Top 10 Best Overall Guidelines. Settings: Bleacher Report Mock, User Selected draft needs, Difficult Setting 21: Rashaan Evans LB (1) 22: Malik Jefferson LB (2) 53: Christian Kirk WR (1) 56: Harrison Phillip DT (1) 95: RJ McIntosh DT (3) Settings: NFL Mock, User Selected draft needs, Difficult Setting 21: James Washington WR (1) 22: Maurice Hurst DT (2) 53: Rashaan Evans LB (2) 56: Malik Jefferson LB (2) 95: Tarvarus McFadden CB (10) Settings: Fanspeak, User Selected draft needs, Difficult Setting 21: Rashaan Evans LB (1) 22: Josh Jackson CB (7) 53: Malik Jefferson LB (1) 56: Taven Bryan DT (3) 95: James Washington WR (2) Edited February 4, 2018 by KzooMike
Mikie2times Posted February 4, 2018 Author Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Terrible lol, elaborate please
Dr. Who Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Umm, I'm not interested in simulations or mocks that entirely ignore the qb position. I doubt OBD will. 4
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, KzooMike said: lol, elaborate please Drafting two lb, two dt and a wr? lol that’s the WORST possible outcome
Mikie2times Posted February 4, 2018 Author Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Drafting two lb, two dt and a wr? lol that’s the WORST possible outcome I looked at interior OL, edge rusher, and obviously QB. No options presented themselves within the guidelines I stated and the mocks I used. I'm very high on Kirk and Washington at WR and we still need help in that area. We need to retool DT and LB and in a bad way. Those were the options I got at the highest levels in each mock.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, KzooMike said: I looked at interior OL, edge rusher, and obviously QB. No options presented themselves within the guidelines I stated and the mocks I used. I'm very high on Kirk and Washington at WR and we still need help in that area. We need to retool DT and LB and in a bad way. Those were the options I got at the highest levels in each mock. If that’s their plan then i say cut/trade Glenn Taylor and McCoy. Go full tank
4merper4mer Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Drafting two lb, two dt and a wr? lol that’s the WORST possible outcome But we could have Kirk the Christian throwing to Christian Kirk. Edited February 4, 2018 by 4merper4mer
BADOLBILZ Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, KzooMike said: I like mocks but I prefer to use the simulation sites and some guidelines. This is a pretty neat site I saw linked last year: https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock For these 3 mocks I had to select a player that was within the top 10 best players available, the number to the right of the player is his best player available rankings on the overall boards for each of these mocks. Obviously you see a large range of how these simulators project players which is why I used 3 different versions. Curious to what other direction some of you might go with the same settings and Top 10 Best Overall Guidelines. Settings: Bleacher Report Mock, User Selected draft needs, Difficult Setting 21: Rashaan Evans LB (1) 22: Malik Jefferson LB (2) 53: Christian Kirk WR (1) 56: Harrison Phillip DT (1) 95: RJ McIntosh DT (3) Settings: NFL Mock, User Selected draft needs, Difficult Setting 21: James Washington WR (1) 22: Maurice Hurst DT (2) 53: Rashaan Evans LB (2) 56: Malik Jefferson LB (2) 95: Tarvarus McFadden CB (10) Settings: Fanspeak, User Selected draft needs, Difficult Setting 21: Rashaan Evans LB (1) 22: Josh Jackson CB (7) 53: Malik Jefferson LB (1) 56: Taven Bryan DT (3) 95: James Washington WR (2) My main theory on drafting is always take the best available QB with your first pick and you will come out ahead in the long run......it's based on the reality that first round picks are both valuable and by far the most overrated way of acquiring talent. The only first pick first rounder of theirs the Bills had on the field in Jacksonville was Tre' White. But understanding that teams don't have that kind of courage..........draft the best players at premium dollar positions in the first 2 rounds. I don't see Rashaan Evans or Malik Jefferson ever becoming a $15M/yr player. Seems like a lot of drafting for need in those picks. QB's, pass rushers, elite talents at WR and CB and OT's. Those should always be the early targets. Drafting for need leaves you needy. Case in point.......back in 2014 I started a thread about taking Aaron Donald if he was there as he was projected to be.....because IMO he was the best defender in the draft and a great pass rusher. At the time the Bills had a great front 4 so it was kind've dismissed as an odd thought. The past 3 seasons they REALLY could have used Donald. He wasn't a need then. Draft for talent/impact not for need. Fill needs in free agency. 4
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, 4merper4mer said: But we could have Kirk the Chritian throwing to Christian Kirk. Could, but I think he goes to Denver
Mikie2times Posted February 4, 2018 Author Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: If that’s their plan then i say cut/trade Glenn Taylor and McCoy. Go full tank Obviously the needs change a lot with Free Agency. Sign Gaines and Brown (rather move on with Brown), land Star from Carolina and this becomes a different conversation. I still like one of those two LB’s a lot though and see us drafting a LB in the first 3 rounds.
Dr. Who Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KzooMike said: I looked at interior OL, edge rusher, and obviously QB. No options presented themselves within the guidelines I stated and the mocks I used. I'm very high on Kirk and Washington at WR and we still need help in that area. We need to retool DT and LB and in a bad way. Those were the options I got at the highest levels in each mock. Yeah, if the criteria you have artificially tied yourself to produce a situation where you can't address the most significant position for overall team success, I'd pass on the criteria and think outside that particular box. 4 minutes ago, KzooMike said: Obviously the needs change a lot with Free Agency. Sign Gaines and Brown (rather move on with Brown), land Star from Carolina and this becomes a different conversation. I still like one of those two LB’s a lot though and see us drafting a LB in the first 3 rounds. I do agree that FA will alter priorities. I think we should try and address OL and DL particularly. Edited February 4, 2018 by Dr. Who
White Linen Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: But we could have Kirk the Christian throwing to Christian Kirk. Any chance you get, huh?
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Just did one myself. These are fun, but set up scenarios that would never actually happen...lol 21: R1P21 LB ROQUON SMITH GEORGIA 22: R1P22 DL VITA VEA WASHINGTON 53: R2P21 WR CHRISTIAN KIRK TEXAS A&M 56: R2P24 RB SONY MICHEL GEORGIA 95: R3P31 QB MIKE WHITE WESTERN KENTUCKY 123: R4P21 WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN NOTRE DAME 160: R5P21 G MAEA TEUHEMA SE LOUISIANA 168: R5P29 G COLBY GOSSETT
Dr. Who Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: Just did one myself. These are fun, but set up scenarios that would never actually happen...lol 21: R1P21 LB ROQUON SMITH GEORGIA 22: R1P22 DL VITA VEA WASHINGTON 53: R2P21 WR CHRISTIAN KIRK TEXAS A&M 56: R2P24 RB SONY MICHEL GEORGIA 95: R3P31 QB MIKE WHITE WESTERN KENTUCKY 123: R4P21 WR EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN NOTRE DAME 160: R5P21 G MAEA TEUHEMA SE LOUISIANA 168: R5P29 G COLBY GOSSETT As you note, unrealistic, but that is one nice draft. As an UGA fan, I feel compelled to point out it is Roquan Smith. Seems to be a hard name to get right. Edited February 4, 2018 by Dr. Who
Big Turk Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 really wish draftek still hasd it...theirs was the best IMHO
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: As you note, unrealistic, but that is one nice draft. Thanks. Assuming we would sign a nice bridge QB, if this draft were SOMEHOW to happen it would be amazing...lol 1
jahnyc Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 If Gaines leaves, we may be drafting a CB with one of our top four picks. People will not be happy if the first four picks look something like DT, LB, CB and LB, but I think it is a real possibility depending on what we do in free agency.
Dr. Who Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jahnyc said: If Gaines leaves, we may be drafting a CB with one of our top four picks. People will not be happy if the first four picks look something like DT, LB, CB and LB, but I think it is a real possibility depending on what we do in free agency. I agree with the Gaines scenario and also the unhappy prognostication. Doubt we see Cousins coming here. Who is your qb under this hypothetical, because I highly doubt it will be Tyrod? Edited February 4, 2018 by Dr. Who
jahnyc Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Just a feeling that it will be someone like Bradford if he is available. He would compete with Peterman for the starting QB position. Hoping that this is not where things end up.
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