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45 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve said it a zillion times here but no one ever believes me. RB’s role is virtually the same as it has always been. He was once over football ops but didn’t make any football decisions. Marv Levy was the same way. They had people that reported to them that did but had 100% autonomy to make those decisions. He was the acting owner for a period. Prior to that Littman was the acting owner. If you think about the decisions that an owner has to make that was his role. You don’t see owner’s scouting and selecting players (except Jerry Jones who was the GM and comes from a football background). The majority empower their people to do it. It was the exact same situation.

 

Everyone assumes that there has been some big massive change. There has been in some ways. The Bills have active owners now. Terry  is filling the role that Russ filled not McDermott. Russ is back to running the business side of things which is what he really did the whole time. He delegates some of that during his time as de facto owner to Wheat, Honan, Popka, Guelli, etc... 

 

Without sounding like a jerk, I’m telling the truth. I know a ton of people over there on all sides of the operation. It’s not true that Russ or Marv ever made real football decisions. The football side was owned by John Guy and Tom Modrak. 

Ed Abramoski was the head trainer for 37 years and is on the Wall. 

 

You're probably right, but I still think beane and McDermott pretty much have full control. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Steptide said:

 

You're probably right, but I still think beane and McDermott pretty much have full control. 

They do, over the football department. It is like Polian and Marv. 

 

The football side side and the business side are 2 totally different entities. There is little, to, no crossover. Russ was once over both but as a CEO not as a guy making football decisions. That role is filled by the owner in most cases. It just had been filled by Littman and Russ for a while. Terry is now the guy doing that. I could draw an org chart but don’t really feel like it. You get the point

Posted
1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’ve said it a zillion times... 

 

Without sounding like a jerk, I’m telling the truth. I know a ton of people over there on all sides of the operation. It’s not true that Russ or Marv ever made real football decisions. The football side was owned by John Guy and Tom Modrak. 

Ed Abramoski was the head trainer for 37 years and is on the Wall. 

 

Jerk.  You're not telling me the narrative I want to hear. 

 

What do I do with my Russ Brandon voodoo doll now??

 

:beer:

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Bud is credited for Saving the life of Kevin Everttte he has just returned from. Seminar on spinal injuries

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1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He was there already when we got there in 1976. He ran the intramurals programs and we became friends. He got me tickets to Bills games in various cities over the years. He's a really great, generous guy. Congrats, Bud.

He is a great guy but he was old school every day after tearing up my shoulder we just iced it

Posted
3 hours ago, Steptide said:

Maybe the pegulas are learning. Plus I'm pretty sure Russell Brandon was still a big part of the bills at that time. I'm willing to bet beane and McDermott pretty much have full control at OBD 

good.  out with the old and in with the new.   trust the process

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Clearing the deck so the new guy can bring in his own staff. A little cold blooded, but it happens in many industries, and on many levels. 

I bet they have a new crew ready to come on board pretty soon.

Posted
17 hours ago, Heitz said:

 

Jerk.  You're not telling me the narrative I want to hear. 

 

What do I do with my Russ Brandon voodoo doll now??

 

:beer:


Get it signed by Russ (and he took your lunch box, ask for it back) and sell it on eBay.

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I got there in 81 and good old bud was running the intramurals, he was a good guy!

 

19 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Bud has come a long way. He used to work at the athletic field house at SUNY Fredonia when I went there (1980 graduate).

Not sure if he wasn't more than just a grad student working a job there. He used to re-string racket ball rackets!

Anyway, when the Bills came to Fredonia State for training camp, somehow he latched on to the organization & worked his way up.

He also works as a trainer for the Boston Bruin's IIRC.  Nice career!

 

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