SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: He didn't sign a contract from what ESPN reported last I saw. I'm sure the medical info was discussed in talks with the ownership/etc. I wonder if that violated any HIPAA laws. I get that teams can release a general comment to the media per NFL policy, but to have a strong inside knowledge? I would think it be limited with client / doctor / management privileges .... 1
SouthNYfan Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I get that teams can release a general comment to the media per NFL policy, but to have a strong inside knowledge? I would think it be limited with client / doctor / management privileges .... Exactly what I was thinking
mannc Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s one of the theories out there. It makes sense. Which would mean promising the job to McDaniel in advance is a clear violation of the Rooney Rule.
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mannc said: Which would mean promising the job to McDaniel in advance is a clear violation of the Rooney Rule. I just think they need to avoid doing it in a public, official way. Probably not in contractual form. But if he is indeed considered the “heir apparent” to Belichick in a firm organizational succession plan, I do not think it has to align to the RR. Edited February 7, 2018 by YoloinOhio
SouthNYfan Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I just think they need to avoid doing it in a public, official way. Probably not in contractual form. But if he is indeed considered the “heir apparent” to Belichick in a firm organizational succession plan, I do not think it has to align to the RR. I know there is precedent for this, like the Ravens with one of their executives, but I'm not sure if the exception applies to coaching positions. I think the rule is fu*king stupid, because it doesn't do anything but force teams to interview somebody they most likely won't even hire just because he's a minority. I've never been a fan of the rule as I don't think it does anything to fix what it's designed to fix.
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: I know there is precedent for this, like the Ravens with one of their executives, but I'm not sure if the exception applies to coaching positions. I think the rule is fu*king stupid, because it doesn't do anything but force teams to interview somebody they most likely won't even hire just because he's a minority. I've never been a fan of the rule as I don't think it does anything to fix what it's designed to fix. Yep, it would just be a formality in this case. If they were told to abide by it, I’m sure they don’t have it in writing and would interview a minority before making McDaniels official. 1
Lfod Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: I know there is precedent for this, like the Ravens with one of their executives, but I'm not sure if the exception applies to coaching positions. I think the rule is fu*king stupid, because it doesn't do anything but force teams to interview somebody they most likely won't even hire just because he's a minority. I've never been a fan of the rule as I don't think it does anything to fix what it's designed to fix. At a certain point in time I'm sure the rule was made to give people an opportunity that they wouldn't get. Times have changed. I won't say everything is perfect. I don't think a rule like that serves it's purpose as much as it once did. It opened a door and now the doors open. So it's a redundant thing possibly. What I am saying if you were to eliminate the rule I don't think it would cause a backslide into hiring only white coaches. Truthfully I am a white guy. I've never experienced a discrimination of a racial kind. I guess you could say I feel a different kind of discrimination. As in people accept just about everything except if I want to smoke a plant. Edited February 7, 2018 by Lfod 1
SouthNYfan Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lfod said: At a certain point in time I'm sure the rule was made to give people an opportunity that they wouldn't get. Times have changed. I won't say everything is perfect. I don't think a rule like that serves it's purpose as much as it once did. It opened a door and now the doors open. So it's a redundant thing possibly. What I am saying if you were to eliminate the rule I don't think it would cause a backslide into hiring only white coaches. Truthfully I am a white guy. I've never experienced a discrimination of a racial kind. I guess you could say I feel a different kind of discrimination. As in people accept just about everything except if I want to smoke a plant. Agree completely I think it's currently a rule that doesn't serve a purpose, because it forces you to interview somebody based on their ethnicity, even if you don't plan to hire them because you already had a guy in mind
K D Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Luck rhymes with ****... Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing but you have all been put on notice 1
Mat68 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Polian this morning on golic and wingo stated that a clear heir apparent or "coach in waiting" is exempt from the Rooney rule. It is for coaching searches not succession plans. On to thread. By Mcdaniels not becoming the head coach it enhances Buffalo chances of trading for Luck. Edited February 7, 2018 by Mat68
ndirish1978 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) I did enjoy that Ballard ended his press conference with "the rivalry is back on." They know Kraft screwed them. Edited February 7, 2018 by ndirish1978
Reed83HOF Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I did enjoy that Ballard ended his press conference with "the rivalry is back on." They know Kraft screwed them. Waiting to see how he drafts, but I was really high on him as a GM candidate. I loved how he handled this... I have a feeling Indy will end up with a better HC actually... 1
Dr. Who Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Waiting to see how he drafts, but I was really high on him as a GM candidate. I loved how he handled this... I have a feeling Indy will end up with a better HC actually... Hard not to at least get a more decent person out of it. They ought to give Frank Reich a shot, imo. 1
Reed83HOF Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Hard not to at least get a more decent person out of it. They ought to give Frank Reich a shot, imo. My $$$ is on Dave Toub; who they should have hired in the first place...
dave mcbride Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I did enjoy that Ballard ended his press conference with "the rivalry is back on." They know Kraft screwed them. LOL - "rivalry." This from a 3-13 franchise that hangs this from the ceiling of their stadium:
ndirish1978 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: LOL - "rivalry." This from a 3-13 franchise that hangs this from the ceiling of their stadium: I suspect you'll see them doing more whining about deflated balls and getting rules changed to spite the Pats like they did several years ago, they have a petty owner.
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: LOL - "rivalry." This from a 3-13 franchise that hangs this from the ceiling of their stadium: True, but the colts are a team on the rise of luck is healthy. They have 77m in cap space and the #3 pick, plus a franchise QB. The pats are a team on the decline. Imo
dave mcbride Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: True, but the colts are a team on the rise of luck is healthy. They have 77m in cap space and the #3 pick, plus a franchise QB. The pats are a team on the decline. Imo Who is their owner again?
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Who is their owner again? He’s crazy but he’s had success in the past unlike a guy like Hassan. This is an organization that has had a ton of wins and playoff berths when their QB was healthy between 1999-present. It’s not a losing culture that needs risen from the ashes. Imo
apuszczalowski Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: True, but the colts are a team on the rise of luck is healthy. They have 77m in cap space and the #3 pick, plus a franchise QB. The pats are a team on the decline. Imo They may have Luck, the #3 pick and lots of cap space, but I wouldn't call them a team on the rise just yet until you see what they do with the pick and cap space, and who the new coach will be.
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