Dr Krentist Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Now that McDaniels is the coach, maybe he'll bring Tebow back and trade Luck!
Dunkirk Donski Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 3:52 PM, SaviorPeterman said: It's not happening and never even considered based on what I know. Also do you think McDaniels would leave NE for a team without a franchise QB? He's not stupid especially after what happened in Denver with Tebowmania. Thanks for the verification!
BullBuchanan Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: This is just a lazy and inaccurate assessment. His career record is 43-27. He’s had a 40 td season and another with 31. 3-3 in the playoffs with an appearance in the afc title game is hardly getting schooled. It’s also universally known he’s had little help from any other unit on his teams. And now he hasnt been healthy in 2 years with injuries to his throwing shoulder. There was a report a couple months ago that the injury was so bad some people were thinking he was done forever. If you could draft a kid in the top 5 (plus trade compensation) or roll the dice that he'll be fine as a new coach/GM what would you do?
Stank_Nasty Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: And now he hasnt been healthy in 2 years with injuries to his throwing shoulder. There was a report a couple months ago that the injury was so bad some people were thinking he was done forever. If you could draft a kid in the top 5 (plus trade compensation) or roll the dice that he'll be fine as a new coach/GM what would you do? Now this is solid reasoning to legitimately move on. Your first statement just wasn’t very accurate. This is a whole different can of worms here. And makes much more sense.
The Frankish Reich Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 1:52 PM, SaviorPeterman said: It's not happening and never even considered based on what I know. Also do you think McDaniels would leave NE for a team without a franchise QB? He's not stupid especially after what happened in Denver with Tebowmania. Yeah, it's not as if he drafted Tebow. Oh, wait a minute ... http://www.espn.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/12461/mcdaniels-legacy-is-tebow Seriously, though: McDaniels is an egotist. He shares that with many great coaches, as well as with many total failures as NFL coaches. He is the kind of guy who could very easily say give me Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Mayfield (they have the 3rd overall pick) and I'll shape him into the NFL QB I want. That way he'd get full credit for a Colts resurgence rather than sharing it with the triumphant return of Andrew Luck. Or maybe we could sweeten the deal by including Nathan Peterman ...
Domdab99 Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Luck may still need more surgery and miss the 2018 season It's only a small part of this article, but it's in there. The Colts are definitely in play for a QB at #3. Edited February 7, 2018 by Domdab99
K D Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: Luck may still need more surgery and miss the 2018 season It's only a small part of this article, but it's in there. The Colts are definitely in play for a QB at #3. He can learn to throw left handed and still be better than Tyrod 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Ok, I'm willing to trade a lot for Luck and risk it. This is beginning to be a Drew Brees situation. Dolphins didn't think the shoulder would ever be healthy, Saints did. The rest is history. 1
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Well, the McDaniels flip flop certainly throws a yield sign on this whole discussion.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports there are still doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he may require additional surgery. As soon as Josh McDaniels backed out of the Colts' head-coaching job on Tuesday night, rumors began to swirl that McDaniels may know something about Luck's shoulder that the public does not. We doubt that's the case, but the concern around Luck is legitimate after he missed all of 2017 due to complications from right shoulder surgery. Luck needs to start throwing again ASAP to squash the rumors, and they're not going to go away until he does so. Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Feb 6 - 9:19 PM
Kirby Jackson Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: He can learn to throw left handed and still be better than Tyrod If he can complete 62-63% of his passes and have the lowest INT percentage ever left-handed I will be impressed!! 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports there are still doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he may require additional surgery. As soon as Josh McDaniels backed out of the Colts' head-coaching job on Tuesday night, rumors began to swirl that McDaniels may know something about Luck's shoulder that the public does not. We doubt that's the case, but the concern around Luck is legitimate after he missed all of 2017 due to complications from right shoulder surgery. Luck needs to start throwing again ASAP to squash the rumors, and they're not going to go away until he does so. Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Feb 6 - 9:19 PM The Luck situation is clearly a major factor. I think that the likeliest scenario though is the Pats gave him a big bump and appointed him HC after BB retires.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If he can complete 62-63% of his passes and have the lowest INT percentage ever left-handed I will be impressed!! The Luck situation is clearly a major factor. I think that the likeliest scenario though is the Pats gave him a big bump and appointed him HC after BB retires. I think Belichick is retiring soon, like in the next few days.
GunnerBill Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I think Belichick is retiring soon, like in the next few days. That would shock me but them coming to a behind closed doors agreement that 2018 is his last ride would not at all.
SouthNYfan Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That would shock me but them coming to a behind closed doors agreement that 2018 is his last ride would not at all. Agreed.. 38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If he can complete 62-63% of his passes and have the lowest INT percentage ever left-handed I will be impressed!! The Luck situation is clearly a major factor. I think that the likeliest scenario though is the Pats gave him a big bump and appointed him HC after BB retires. So you're saying Luck can be as good as tyrod playing with his left hand?
Kirby Jackson Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: I think Belichick is retiring soon, like in the next few days. That’s one of the theories out there. It makes sense.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports there are still doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he may require additional surgery. As soon as Josh McDaniels backed out of the Colts' head-coaching job on Tuesday night, rumors began to swirl that McDaniels may know something about Luck's shoulder that the public does not. We doubt that's the case, but the concern around Luck is legitimate after he missed all of 2017 due to complications from right shoulder surgery. Luck needs to start throwing again ASAP to squash the rumors, and they're not going to go away until he does so. Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Feb 6 - 9:19 PM Did Josh sign a contract with Indy? Does he have the right to see "privileged medical information" on Luck before the hire was official? EDIT - No contract was signed Edited February 7, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1
Kirby Jackson Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Agreed.. So you're saying Luck can be as good as tyrod playing with his left hand? @kdiggz said that. It feels like hyperbole to me.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 How much did NE have to give the JETS for BB backing out of the deal? I say double that penalty 1
SouthNYfan Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: @kdiggz said that. It feels like hyperbole to me. Lol. It was a joke since Tyrod's biggest supporters reference his NFL career low int% and his good comp% 38 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Did Josh sign a contract with Indy? Does he have the right to see "privileged medical information" on Luck before the hire was official? He didn't sign a contract from what ESPN reported last I saw. I'm sure the medical info was discussed in talks with the ownership/etc. I wonder if that violated any HIPAA laws.
Wayne Cubed Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) I'm not really buying the Luck injury is worse than McDaniels originally thought narrative. The Colts still have the #3 pick. He could have selected the QB of the future. 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports there are still doctors who have concerns about Andrew Luck's shoulder and whether he may require additional surgery. As soon as Josh McDaniels backed out of the Colts' head-coaching job on Tuesday night, rumors began to swirl that McDaniels may know something about Luck's shoulder that the public does not. We doubt that's the case, but the concern around Luck is legitimate after he missed all of 2017 due to complications from right shoulder surgery. Luck needs to start throwing again ASAP to squash the rumors, and they're not going to go away until he does so. Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Feb 6 - 9:19 PM Yea, not buying it. They still have the #3 pick. He could have gone there and selected a new QB. There are plenty of QBs to select from in this draft. If he only wants to go to a team with a proven QB, he's an even worse coach than originally thought. It's a weak excuse. Edited February 7, 2018 by Wayne Cubed
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