SouthNYfan Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: It is entirely fair to state your opinion on Luck. The last sentence was not required. And he is one of the long standing , respected members of this form. I don't agree with calling anyone a moron, esp posters like him. *I assume you meant "forum" and not "form"* He may not personally be a moron, I stated that he was a moron in regards to his assessment of Andrew Luck, which I still feel is true. Feel free to disagree with that, doesn't change my stance on it.
BigBuff423 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: We're not trying to win now? Looked to me this year like we are. Wait 2 years? This drought thinking. We're now in the post draught era. Its about winning now. Old habits die hard I guess. No, they didn’t anticipate the success they had because they traded Watkins, Darby, Dareus and Ragland to gain picks for this year’s Draft. An obvious sign they were setting themselves up to make a big transition in 2018. And no, listen to Beane’s comments, the Bills are not in “win now” mode. Im ecstatic they won this year I really like McD as a coach, but it’s easy to see they achieved beyond their talent level (due to good coaching and team mentality). To me getting Luck is a sign they have adjusted their initial timeline - I’m just not convinced that’s accurate. Also, to those saying he’s 28, you’re right but will be 29 when season starts. And presuming a guy to play well past 35 is a large leap to me including the interest of desire of a player to do that - not saying he would or wouldn’t, but based on age it’s a true risk you give up a lot for a guy you’ll have for 4 years, when you have the Draft capital to get your franchise QB for the next 12-15 years .....at probably about the same cost. Edited February 3, 2018 by BigBuff423
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 11 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Andrew Luck is NOT getting traded it really is as simple as that A healthy AL is not getting traded. 1
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 10 hours ago, horned dogs said: Very definitive from the guy who predicted 3-4 wins for the Bills this year Ooo and my Bills prediction in offseason carries alot of weight on a Franchise QB from another team getting traded when the HC went there specifically because of said QB. 13 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: A healthy AL is not getting traded. An unhealthy one isnt either (thing called physicals)
cd1 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 4:55 PM, Domdab99 said: LOL why are any of you actually wanting this to happen? We don't even know if Luck will ever be able to play football again. Even if he's cleared, there's no way he's going to be at his peak. Why go after damaged goods? So stupid. ENTER Drew Brees! Quote Drew Brees started his professional career with the San Diego Chargers, earning the starting job in 2002 and making the Pro Bowl in 2004. Nine months after suffering a bad dislocation in his shoulder joint and a 360 degree tear of his labrum and rotator cuff, Brees signed with the New Orleans Saints as a free agent. He met immediate success in New Orleans, earning ten trips to the Pro Bowl and leading the Saints to their first Super Bowl in Super Bowl XLIV, a 31–17 victory over the Indianapolis Colts. So stupid you say...
SouthNYfan Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, cd1 said: ENTER Drew Brees! So stupid you say... Brees' surgeon called him a miracle and said he never expected him to return to 100%. Brees also didn't play an entire year with a torn labrum, continuing to shred it and turn it into spaghetti. Pre-injury Luck was amazing. If he returns to even 85% he's a bonafide franchise QB. I would love him. I'm just not sure Indy jettisons him if he's even 70%.
Mat68 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 hour ago, cd1 said: ENTER Drew Brees! So stupid you say... Add in the fact that Brees didnt pass a physical in Miami and Saban was not able to sway the organization to sign him anyway. They went with Culpepper. Payton had the Dr on his medical staff in NO who performed the shoulder surgery and got Brees cleared in the physical. If Brees went to Miami Saban is still in the NFL.
ALF Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Luck's trade value is low until he can play again healthy. Indy could draft a QB high and sit him behind Luck till ready. Keep the best one and trade value for the other is high.
klos63 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 12 hours ago, horned dogs said: Very definitive from the guy who predicted 3-4 wins for the Bills this year Lot of people were wrong in the win prediction, but i would agree that Luck isn't going anywhere( I predicted 9 wins btw)
Agent 91 Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 3:57 PM, YoloinOhio said: Haha. Actually he does love Brissett and Brissett knows his offense. I actually kind of liked Brissett too. I mean hes no world beater but I could see him starting somewhere
Cruiserplayer Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Colts interested in Bevell as OC. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/04/report-darrell-bevell-a-target-for-colts-offensive-coordinator-job/
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2018 Author Posted February 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said: Colts interested in Bevell as OC. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/04/report-darrell-bevell-a-target-for-colts-offensive-coordinator-job/ So Chud will be free to come to Buffalo as Andrew’s QB coach. Nice. 1 1
Cruiserplayer Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So Chud will be free to come to Buffalo as Andrew’s QB coach. Nice. That’s what I was thinking
greeneblitz Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 People forget how great Luck was before the injury, surrounded by zero talent and especially a terrible offensive line. The Colts would be idiotic if they traded him away.
Schmuggs Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 More **** against the wall.... is it stickin?
Cruiserplayer Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Schmuggs said: More **** against the wall.... is it stickin? As of now it’s just a Schmudge! 2
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 11:08 AM, klos63 said: Lot of people were wrong in the win prediction, but i would agree that Luck isn't going anywhere( I predicted 9 wins btw) I've been away so catching up. You all are entitled to believe Luck is going nowhere. My opinion is that by draft day it could well be they've decided to move on from him and grab more picks. But', most of all, McDaniels may very well want to start with Josh Rosen.
Don Beebe Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/3/2018 at 7:45 AM, BigBuff423 said: No, they didn’t anticipate the success they had because they traded Watkins, Darby, Dareus and Ragland to gain picks for this year’s Draft. An obvious sign they were setting themselves up to make a big transition in 2018. And no, listen to Beane’s comments, the Bills are not in “win now” mode. Im ecstatic they won this year I really like McD as a coach, but it’s easy to see they achieved beyond their talent level (due to good coaching and team mentality). To me getting Luck is a sign they have adjusted their initial timeline - I’m just not convinced that’s accurate. Also, to those saying he’s 28, you’re right but will be 29 when season starts. And presuming a guy to play well past 35 is a large leap to me including the interest of desire of a player to do that - not saying he would or wouldn’t, but based on age it’s a true risk you give up a lot for a guy you’ll have for 4 years, when you have the Draft capital to get your franchise QB for the next 12-15 years .....at probably about the same cost. Those guys got traded because they did not have the team mindset. Trading them was one reason we did start winning.
BullBuchanan Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 2:58 PM, JPP said: Just saying.....if Luck is determined "healthy" why on earth would colts even entertain trading their franchise QB?? Because frankly at this point he's closer to Jay Cutler than Aaron Rodgers. I loved Andrew Luck when he came into the league, but he's really done nothing worth mentioning besides beat up on the worst division in football and get schooled in the playoffs.
Stank_Nasty Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Because frankly at this point he's closer to Jay Cutler than Aaron Rodgers. I loved Andrew Luck when he came into the league, but he's really done nothing worth mentioning besides beat up on the worst division in football and get schooled in the playoffs. This is just a lazy and inaccurate assessment. His career record is 43-27. He’s had a 40 td season and another with 31. 3-3 in the playoffs with an appearance in the afc title game is hardly getting schooled. It’s also universally known he’s had little help from any other unit on his teams. Edited February 6, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 5
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