K D Posted April 22, 2018 Posted April 22, 2018 Josh Allen might be really good. He might also be really bad. He's too much of an unfinished product to speculate. Makes him too risky to trade up for when there are more polished passers available (Rosen)
ganesh Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 11:23 PM, sjjr said: Our last 1st Rd QB picked was a 6'5" 240lb guy who could move with a big arm. The problem was his accuracy and ball placement. This would be the same mistake. A team can only draft this guy if they have a coach with a history of fixing the problems Allen has. It is probably a multi year process. I don't believe Allen has any issues with ball placement...see the highlights....
26CornerBlitz Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 What are the Buffalo Bills getting in Josh Allen? An advanced look into Josh Allen's strengths and weaknesses, all the while tackling the myths and truths of some of the accepted schools of thought about Allen as an NFL prospect. What does Allen need to work on? No. 1 - Finding his inner Derek Zoolander No. 2 - More consistent footwork No. 3 - Mental processing No. 4 - Seeing ghosts What makes Allen such a dynamic prospect? No. 1 - Arm strength, of course No. 2 - Anticipatory throws No. 3 - Strength and balance through contact No. 4 - A legitimate running threat 2 2
transplantbillsfan Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What are the Buffalo Bills getting in Josh Allen? An advanced look into Josh Allen's strengths and weaknesses, all the while tackling the myths and truths of some of the accepted schools of thought about Allen as an NFL prospect. What does Allen need to work on? No. 1 - Finding his inner Derek Zoolander No. 2 - More consistent footwork No. 3 - Mental processing No. 4 - Seeing ghosts What makes Allen such a dynamic prospect? No. 1 - Arm strength, of course No. 2 - Anticipatory throws No. 3 - Strength and balance through contact No. 4 - A legitimate running threat Considering that all of this is based on his college tape over the last 2 years and, supposedly, Allen and Palmer have fixed a lot of these issues, I expect Allen to start earlier than midseason... likely week #1... PS: This is Joe B's most thoughtful/thorough work I think I've ever read. On 4/22/2018 at 4:43 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/22/inaccuracy-talk-bugs-josh-allen/ “The inaccuracy issue,” Allen said. “Going back to college having a 56-percent completion percentage. Obviously, it’s not great. But I think that it’s a little blown out of proportion. I do think that I’m accurate. Jordan Palmer’s helped me out a lot throughout this process with getting my feet right. Once we did that [I’m] throwing the ball a little easier. The ball’s coming out and where it’s supposed to be.” So why the low completion percentage? “I think if you look at the film at the times that I did miss, my feet were jacked,” Allen said. “Going back to our offensive system I was asked to do a lot of things within our system. Threw the ball downfield a lot. I am the one to admit that I didn’t put the ball where it needed to be all the time. But, you know, given the circumstances that we had in Wyoming, we won two back-to-back eight-win seasons. It was a place where we ended up winning football games. I think that I helped out in that manner putting the team in the best position to win football games.” Others have explained the situation in similar fashion, and others have the freedom to say that maybe Allen’s receivers weren’t sufficiently skilled to catch his throws more often. Allen won’t say that; instead, he freely admits that he consistently didn’t put the ball where it needed to be. While that’s a fair concern, the fact that he won’t blame any of it on his receivers is a sign that he is and will be a good teammate at the next level, which is an underrated aspect of whether and to what extent his NFL teammates will want to embrace him — or whether they’ll want to punch him in the face. I hope this is indicative of a massive chip on his shoulder so he can continue to autocorrect all these "pre-draft flaws" that he claims and we hope have been corrected. One thing's for sure... with his buddy/offseason QB Summit competitor Darnold now in the same division and in a significantly larger media market, that chip on his shoulder can be nourished healthily for the next decade PLUS with almost inevitably more national attention going to the guy in NYC. Edited May 9, 2018 by transplantbillsfan 1
Foxx Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: What are the Buffalo Bills getting in Josh Allen? An advanced look into Josh Allen's strengths and weaknesses, all the while tackling the myths and truths of some of the accepted schools of thought about Allen as an NFL prospect. What does Allen need to work on? No. 1 - Finding his inner Derek Zoolander No. 2 - More consistent footwork No. 3 - Mental processing No. 4 - Seeing ghosts What makes Allen such a dynamic prospect? No. 1 - Arm strength, of course No. 2 - Anticipatory throws No. 3 - Strength and balance through contact No. 4 - A legitimate running threat thank you. 1
Straight Hucklebuck Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 12:57 PM, DFT said: “Isn’t a ready to go franchise changer like Cam Newton”. Newton wasn’t either, when he came out. But his needle points a little too close to Gabbert and Bortles, for me. I don’t like the EJ comparison at all. He would definitely need at least a year though in my opinion. He wasn’t? His first two games in the league he threw for 400 yards+.
DFT Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: He wasn’t? His first two games in the league he threw for 400 yards+. Pull his scouting reports. Most projected that he would struggle acclimating. I’m not saying I agree, but per the OP, Newton was not considered to be a “ready to go franchise changer” when he came out.
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