ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Yes, it is. That pesky "Rookie" Projected Draft Pool allocation eats up nearly $10 Mil. I'm hoping spotrac updates this asap so that we can get a better number and cut out the guess work in the weeks to come One thing that has to happen is Wood and then who do the Bills designate as June 1 cuts.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: One thing that has to happen is Wood and then who do the Bills designate as June 1 cuts. Jerry is the only high priced player left. The others are McDermott / Beane guys so I don’t see them getting cut. Clay and McCoy could be restructured. Both are very important imo
ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Jerry is the only high priced player left. The others are McDermott / Beane guys so I don’t see them getting cut. I meant the Bills can designate June 1 cuts for cap purposes to move some Dead Money to 2019.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: I meant the Bills can designate June 1 cuts for cap purposes to move some Dead Money to 2019. Doh. There is room in 2019. Mortgaging the future works but I’m not a fan. I did like cap to cash for that. (If I understand that correctly).
ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Doh. There is room in 2019. Mortgaging the future works but I’m not a fan. I did like cap to cash for that. (If I understand that correctly). Neither am I. That being said some of Wood's hit is going to 2019 or they would have retired him already. Probably a little of Glenn money too. Spotrac should start to showing real numbers tomorrow, like you said. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Neither am I. That being said some of Wood's hit is going to 2019 or they would have retired him already. Probably a little of Glenn money too. Spotrac should start to showing real numbers tomorrow, like you said. The retirement thing is a head scratcher. In that event pushing to 2019 makes sense.
YattaOkasan Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 The rookie pool doesn’t need to be 10 mil does it? It’s gonna cost 10 mil probably but because of the rule of 51 it should only cost about 5 mil from what I’ve seen elsewhere
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: The rookie pool doesn’t need to be 10 mil does it? It’s gonna cost 10 mil probably but because of the rule of 51 it should only cost about 5 mil from what I’ve seen elsewhere No but that is the cap. Currently the two 1st rounders can cost $4.4 mil alone.
BillsCuse Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 Do you have to account for the rookie pool into the salary cap now or just when they are signed after the draft?
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsCuse said: Do you have to account for the rookie pool into the salary cap now or just when they are signed after the draft? Only when signed. So yes the $10 mil is there now but needs to be “corrected” later. April 28th or there about. So you get about 6 weeks to the draft and the how many weeks it takes to get them under contract. Edited March 14, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
BillsCuse Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Only when signed. So yes the $10 mil is there now but needs to be “corrected” later. April 28th or there about. So you get about 6 weeks to the draft and the how many weeks it takes to get them under contract. Ok thanks, that's what I thought. Was just wondering if they could make cuts/restructure after the draft if needed
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, BillsCuse said: Ok thanks, that's what I thought. Was just wondering if they could make cuts/restructure after the draft if needed I’m no expert but I did sleep at a holiday inn last night.
YattaOkasan Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 38 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: No but that is the cap. Currently the two 1st rounders can cost $4.4 mil alone. Yeah but they bump out two players from top 51. That makes the first rounders more like 3.5 mill right? Later rounds are not expensive at all. Over the cap has you 10 mil number but that just adds the cost of all the picks. I don’t think it considers the top 51. Is @BarleyNY around to give his thoughts on the cap cost of the draft? I remember him having good insight last year.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Yeah but they bump out two players from top 51. That makes the first rounders more like 3.5 mill right? Later rounds are not expensive at all. Over the cap has you 10 mil number but that just adds the cost of all the picks. I don’t think it considers the top 51. Is @BarleyNY around to give his thoughts on the cap cost of the draft? I remember him having good insight last year. There are set cap #s for each selection. This cap has helped eliminate all or the rookie holdout and why they are basically all signed before preseason.
ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Yeah but they bump out two players from top 51. That makes the first rounders more like 3.5 mill right? Later rounds are not expensive at all. Over the cap has you 10 mil number but that just adds the cost of all the picks. I don’t think it considers the top 51. Is @BarleyNY around to give his thoughts on the cap cost of the draft? I remember him having good insight last year. Yes. It usually bumps guy making around 500k.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 14, 2018 Author Posted March 14, 2018 2018 Projected Draft Pool Cap PLAYER (9) POS. CAP HIT Round 1, Pick #12 $2,718,200 Round 1, Pick #22 $2,121,730 Round 2, Pick #53 $928,791 Round 2, Pick #56 $866,658 Round 3, Pick #65 $747,340 Round 3, Pick #96 $675,762 Round 4, Pick #121 $643,185 Round 5, Pick #166 $544,187 Round 6, Pick #187 $520,369 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes. It usually bumps guy making around 500k. Aka camp fodder?
YattaOkasan Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 2018 Projected Draft Pool Cap PLAYER (9) POS. CAP HIT Round 1, Pick #12 $2,718,200 Round 1, Pick #22 $2,121,730 Round 2, Pick #53 $928,791 Round 2, Pick #56 $866,658 Round 3, Pick #65 $747,340 Round 3, Pick #96 $675,762 Round 4, Pick #121 $643,185 Round 5, Pick #166 $544,187 Round 6, Pick #187 $520,369 Aka camp fodder? Yes camp fodder but fodder that counts agains the cap. So the the cap hit for each player is 500k less than this number. But yes this is what the rooks make Edited March 14, 2018 by YattaOkasan 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 15, 2018 Author Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) the high $ leftovers ACTIVE PLAYERS (63) POS. BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS MISC. DEAD CAP CAP HIT CAP % Jerry Hughes DE $6,350,000 $1,400,000 $1,000,000 $1,500,000 $150,000 - - ($5,800,000) $10,400,000 6.75 Charles Clay TE $4,500,000 $2,000,000 - - - $2,500,000 - ($9,000,000) $9,000,000 5.84 LeSean McCoy RB $6,075,000 $2,625,000 - - $250,000 - - ($5,250,000) $8,950,000 5.81 Eric Wood C $5,050,000 $2,166,666 $250,000 - $150,000 $1,258,334 - ($5,591,668) $8,875,000 5.76 Kelvin Benjamin WR $8,459,000 - - - - - - ($8,459,000) $8,459,000 5.49 Richie Incognito G $6,325,000 $1,150,000 - - $100,000 - - ($1,150,000) $7,575,000 4.92 The top 3 all have contracts that expire in 2020 restructuring could net just over $7 mil in cap space QB A.J. McCarron, a two-year, $10 million contract. He can earn another $6 million in incentives. TRANSACTIONS MAR 14 2018Julian StanfordSigned a 2 year $3 million contract with Buffalo (BUF) MAR 14 2018A.J. McCarronSigned a 2 year $10 million contract with Buffalo (BUF) MAR 14 2018Trent MurphyAgreed to a 3 year $21 million contract with Buffalo (BUF) MAR 13 2018Rafael BushSigned a 2 year $3.5 mililon contract with Buffalo (BUF) MAR 13 2018Kyle WilliamsSigned a 1 year $6 million contract extension with Buffalo (BUF) Edited March 15, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 15, 2018 Author Posted March 15, 2018 Some of the contract figures have been added to spotrac database and the sum currently sits at CAP TOTALS - $27,358,557 There are still some "new contracts" not accounted for. Kyle Williams 1 year $6 mil, Trent Murphy 3 year $21 lets call both a total of $13 mil That takes the cap space to Cap Space: $14,358,557 unknowns Star Lotulelei, Owamagbe Odighizuwa and Logan Thomas
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 15, 2018 Author Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Mike RodakESPN Staff Writer Salary cap numbers for AJ McCarron's corrected deal: $3 million (2018) and $7 million (2019). He gets a $3 million base salary in 2019 ($1.1 million guaranteed for injury; fully guaranteed on fifth day of 2019 league year) and a $1.9 million roster bonus in 2019. Bills could release McCarron after the 2018 season and take only a $2 million dead-money charge. Edited 3 hours ago by ShadyBillsFan Until the Bills cut or restructure some BIG contracts it looks as if they've burned through what cap space they have beyond the rookie reserve. Mock me know and say that Spotrac still has us at $30 Mil, but when you add it all up, and dot the I's and cross the Tees the well is nearly dry. Edited March 15, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
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