reddogblitz Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Shaw66 said: But, you say, the Patriots are already winners. Yes, and that's exactly the point. Why are the Patriots already winners? Because of Brady? Only in part. It's because of Belichick. Give Belichick the right QB and he's going to win. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PLAYERS. If it were about the players, Denver would have been better last year. It's about the coach. In fact the Cheatetrs** have gone 13-6 with Matt Cassell, Jimmy G, And Jacoby Brisset under center.
Shaw66 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: In fact the Cheatetrs** have gone 13-6 with Matt Cassell, Jimmy G, And Jacoby Brisset under center. I've always thought the Pats made Brady a winner, not the other way around.
Kelly the Dog Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Jonathan Kraft said something this week like “Tom has earned the right to go out on his terms” ... Lucky Sperm said that? 1
BobbyC81 Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 12:19 PM, YoloinOhio said: If Wash allows his agent to talk to Denver it’s not tampering. No FA rules involved if it’s a trade Agents are running amok. They need to clamp down on them. Are they now getting paid to provide reporters with back door information? So how could it be announced that Denver has deal with Cousins? Again, people finding ways to get around the rules. So, if the agent talks to Denver, then talks to Cousins but Cousins doesn’t directly talk to Denver, it’s OK? That’s BS!
BillsFan4 Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 I am wondering if Minnesota is going to be in the running for Cousins. They could be an appealing destination. They have a very good young team, great defense (they were in fact the #1 defense in the NFL - in both PPG and YPG). They also have tons of cap space - $50+ M. If they decide they'd rather have Cousins over Keenum and/or Bridgewater (I sure would), the Vikings could be a strong suitor for Cousins. I am still rooting for the Bills to land him. My dream is one of Cousins, Luck or 1 of the top 3 QBs in this draft (Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield). Cousins would be great because he'd leave us a bunch of draft picks to fill a bunch of holes, and it would hopefully allow the Bills to build on last season and make a playoff push instead of a potential step back with an unproven rookie QB. I also believe that Cousins is nowhere near his ceiling yet. With how hard he works and studies, I only see him getting better. He's only been starting 3 years.
Virgil Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I Denver would be my pick if he doesn’t come here. I don’t want him on the Jets and then I trade with Denver. Moving to 5 would be a 2018 1st and 3rd and next years 1st. If we get our QB, keep our 1st and both our 2nds, I’m good. That’s a starting DT, QB, LB, and DB. Picking 5 leaves us with probably the 2nd best QB, assuming the Jets don’t jump in front of us. Walking away from this draft with one of the top 3 QB’s and 3 other day one starters would be amazing. Throw in some mid level FA’s and life is good. 1
Patrick Duffy Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Virgil said: I Denver would be my pick if he doesn’t come here. I don’t want him on the Jets and then I trade with Denver. Moving to 5 would be a 2018 1st and 3rd and next years 1st. If we get our QB, keep our 1st and both our 2nds, I’m good. That’s a starting DT, QB, LB, and DB. Picking 5 leaves us with probably the 2nd best QB, assuming the Jets don’t jump in front of us. Walking away from this draft with one of the top 3 QB’s and 3 other day one starters would be amazing. Throw in some mid level FA’s and life is good. If you think that's all it would take to get to #5 then I have a feeling you will be disappointed. I believe it will take more than that to get to the #5 pick.
K D Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: If you think that's all it would take to get to #5 then I have a feeling you will be disappointed. I believe it will take more than that to get to the #5 pick. He was close. It would be our extra 1st, our extra 2nd, next year's 1st, and maybe a later round pick this year. Or we could have started Peterman and had that pick for free but everyone wants instant gratification now here we are with decisions to make that could lead to people being fired if they are wrong 1
Virgil Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: If you think that's all it would take to get to #5 then I have a feeling you will be disappointed. I believe it will take more than that to get to the #5 pick. Just using the chart sir 1
thebandit27 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, Virgil said: Just using the chart sir Old chart or new chart?
CSBill Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Virgil said: I Denver would be my pick if he doesn’t come here. I don’t want him on the Jets and then I trade with Denver. Moving to 5 would be a 2018 1st and 3rd and next years 1st. If we get our QB, keep our 1st and both our 2nds, I’m good. That’s a starting DT, QB, LB, and DB. Picking 5 leaves us with probably the 2nd best QB, assuming the Jets don’t jump in front of us. Walking away from this draft with one of the top 3 QB’s and 3 other day one starters would be amazing. Throw in some mid level FA’s and life is good. If all the Free Agents are settled by draft day--which they will be--throw out the chart for QB desperate teams. The teams in those tops spots will be able to trade them for ridiculously high randoms if they want. I doubt the current BIlls Regime will be willing to play that game. 1
Virgil Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Old chart or new chart?
thebandit27 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, CSBill said: If all the Free Agents are settled by draft day--which they will be--throw out the chart for QB desperate teams. The teams in those tops spots will be able to trade them for ridiculously high randoms if they want. I doubt the current BIlls Regime will be willing to play that game. Well, consider that for a moment... Suppose Denver lands Cousins, that takes one obvious QB team out of the question. Then there's the question of how teams like Cleveland and Arizona handle their situations. It's entirely possible that one of them makes a move for a guy like McCarron. Then you're looking at 3 QBs in the top 6 (assuming the Giants take one and Cleveland loses out on McCarron to Arizona--just as an example). If a team picking in the top 10 wants to drive a hard bargain for a trade up, where does the leverage come from? I suppose you're counting on competition from multiple suitors, but who? Obviously Buffalo, but who else is desperate? Maybe Miami. Possibly the Chargers.
Patrick Duffy Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Virgil said: Just using the chart sir Understood. Just saying I think some will be surprised at how much more it "could" take to move up to a spot like the #5. By all means though if it did take what you're thinking, I'd be all for it. Especially if it's the QB they have high on their chart. 9 hours ago, kdiggz said: He was close. It would be our extra 1st, our extra 2nd, next year's 1st, and maybe a later round pick this year. Or we could have started Peterman and had that pick for free but everyone wants instant gratification now here we are with decisions to make that could lead to people being fired if they are wrong Lol, well still have a chance at them starting Peterman for the upcoming season, depending on how everything plays out. I'm definitely interested to see how it all plays itself out.
Real McClappy Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 Was really hoping Denver would take Tyrod... I wish we could land Cousins personally. I think he be a great fit for our Offense for many years to come. I just don't think we could afford his services. 1
K D Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Lol, well still have a chance at them starting Peterman for the upcoming season, depending on how everything plays out. I'm definitely interested to see how it all plays itself out. Too late now. This was the year to get a QB. Probably 3 guys that will be long term starters in the league. I don't know of anyone good coming out next year. It will be like the EJ draft all over again
Patrick Duffy Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, kdiggz said: Too late now. This was the year to get a QB. Probably 3 guys that will be long term starters in the league. I don't know of anyone good coming out next year. It will be like the EJ draft all over again Yea I get all that. I'm just saying it "could" be the way they end up going, stay put at 21,22 and getting a QB that may fall to them if they are lucky and have them battle it out in camp. Will be interesting either way it goes. I personally would like to see Cousins in a Bills uni. But don't see that happening.....so I'm curious to see whaat route is taken. 1
Shaw66 Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Yea I get all that. I'm just saying it "could" be the way they end up going, stay put at 21,22 and getting a QB that may fall to them if they are lucky and have them battle it out in camp. Will be interesting either way it goes. I personally would like to see Cousins in a Bills uni. But don't see that happening.....so I'm curious to see whaat route is taken. If it takes a first and third this year and a first next year I don't think it's happening. Can't imagine Beane burning draft capital like that. Most I can imagine is one first and one other pick this year to move up to 13 or so. So I'm with you. I think Beane will keep his picks do the best he can. And I think the Bills will make a serious run at Cousins. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Was really hoping Denver would take Tyrod... I wish we could land Cousins personally. I think he be a great fit for our Offense for many years to come. I just don't think we could afford his services. Tyrod is going to be released, no way a team trades a draft pick for him. He won't take a pay cut which is the main reason why I'm 100% sure he is gone. You can start celebrating now if you like.
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