FearLess Price Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Or he's lieing. It's that time of year. Lies!! Theyre def trying to slide into Cousins DMs. Talking bout that Colorodo herbal culture and selling him on the teams future. This would be the best thing for us. Gives us a trade partner and takes Cousins away from the NYJ
CommonCents Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Breer is on the radio saying that the team which shows him "love" will have a good chance of landing him. Says the Jets are the leader in the clubhouse with the Broncos a close second. Saying the Broncos are so close to the cap that in order to sign him they may lose their identity by letting go of Talib, Wolfe, Manny, etc.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) OK Time to rehash this old article. Destination Cousins http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/20978049/nfl-destination-kirk-cousins-ten-teams-washington-redskins-quarterback-play-2018-free-agent-market Why it couldn't work The Broncos could be leery about spending big for a quarterback they don't know well. There could be more cost-effective alternatives in the veteran market, and because they're drafting so early, they could see a solution there. Cousins could see Denver as a place where Elway churns through coaches and quarterbacks whenever the on-field results fail to meet sky-high expectations. The Cardinals could find Cousins' price tag too expensive, and it's not a sure bet that Cousins would see Arizona as a place he could win right away. Cousins might see the Browns' ownership as even more dysfunctional than he saw the Redskins' ownership. Cleveland's 1-31 record over the past two seasons could scare him off, too. The Browns could also decide to go with a highly drafted rookie from the start. They own two of the top four picks. Bills With a relatively new coach and GM, the Bills might want to start fresh with their own quarterback, not with a veteran from another team. Sean McDermott is a defensive-minded coach who might prefer building the roster in other areas over spending huge money for a good-not-great quarterback. Cousins also could be wary of Buffalo after the Bills benched Taylor. JETS Cousins might not see the Jets as a team with which he can deliver on expectations. The Jets also could decide to target a quarterback with the No. 6 overall pick in the draft. That was the direction league insiders thought the Jets were heading as the 2017 season got going, but the assumption back then was that the Jets could be picking first or second overall. Miami Coach Adam Gase might prefer what he already knows in Tannehill. There's a good chance the team would not see Cousins as a dramatic upgrade. Jacksonville Bortles' production improved, and the team reached the AFC Championship Game. Why make an expensive play for Cousins if Bortles is ascending? Bortles actually had a higher Total QBR than Cousins in 2017, so there are no guarantees Jacksonville would see Cousins as a huge upgrade. The team could sign a veteran or use a 2018 draft choice to add competition/insurance for Bortles. Jacksonville also could have a shot at other quarterbacks. The Vikings could be more likely to re-sign Case Keenum and/or Teddy Bridgewater. They know both players much better than they know Cousins, who figures to carry a higher price tag that could be a deterrent. Keenum outranked Cousins in Total QBR last season. A defensive-minded coach such as Mike Zimmer might not want to spend so much for a quarterback. Giants GM Dave Gettleman has indicated that he would like to have Manning back in 2018. They could keep Manning for another year or use him as a bridge to a younger quarterback, and they have the No. 2 overall pick in the draft. The Giants also could decide Manning can function well enough to start for the next few seasons if the team upgrades its offensive line and running game while getting healthy at receiver. The Bucs could remain committed to Winston. They also might want to funnel their financial resources toward upgrading other areas, including their pass rush. There have been no indications, yet, that Luck's injury situation will end his career. Even if Luck's status is in question, the Colts could draft a replacement in 2018. They also might think Jacoby Brissett can be at least serviceable if given a baseline level of support. Edited February 1, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
DCOrange Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 I saw that Buffalo News is reporting that the Bills will not be pursuing Cousins at all
CuddyDark Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 So Denver won't take a QB at 5. Good for Bills.
thebandit27 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I saw that Buffalo News is reporting that the Bills will not be pursuing Cousins at all I think I saw DraftWire say that, but I haven't seen anything like that in TBN. Of course, I don't really read the News, but I would think I'd have seen it linked here.
26CornerBlitz Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: I think I saw DraftWire say that, but I haven't seen anything like that in TBN. Of course, I don't really read the News, but I would think I'd have seen it linked here. It's there: The Bills may not enter the big bidding at QB this offseason.
thebandit27 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: It's there: The Bills may not enter the big bidding at QB this offseason. Yep...just saw it! Thanks and good call @DCOrange
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I saw that Buffalo News is reporting that the Bills will not be pursuing Cousins at all They didn’t report that. Mark Gaughan’s opinion is that he is expected to be too pricey and that he’s not a “lift a modest team in his shoulders out of mediocrity” type QB for that money. I agree with him btw but it’s just his opinion. Of course Rotoworld again makes it sound like fact.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Does Cousins really want "security" and to be in a place that loves him? Or is it all talk? Reading the above about Denver ... That does ring true that Horse tooth I mean Elway sure does make a lot of changes.
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yep...just saw it! Thanks and good call @DCOrange It doesn’t say that they won’t be pursuing him at all. It says that Gaughan doesn’t expect them to. I don’t expect them to either but it’s jmo.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It doesn’t say that they won’t be pursuing him at all. It says that Gaughan doesn’t expect them to. I don’t expect them to either but it’s jmo. People read what they want. (yes I'm guilty of it too) The Bills should show interest, but state that they will not break the bank. To not show interest would be overlooking a way they could improve Edited February 1, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: People read what they want. (yes I'm guilty of it too) The Bills should show interest, but state that they will not break the bank. To not show interest would be foolish If gaughan actually claimed a source at the Bills told him they wouldn’t be pursuing him, I would believe it even less, haha. Lying season. In the end it’s just his own take though.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If gaughan actually claimed a source at the Bills told him they wouldn’t be pursuing him, I would believe it even less, haha. Lying season. In the end it’s just his own take though. Chapstick Chad maybe?
GG Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: People read what they want. (yes I'm guilty of it too) The Bills should show interest, but state that they will not break the bank. To not show interest would be overlooking a way they could improve Fairly cut & dry from Gaughan Quote It's hard to make any case for the Bills to get into the bidding for Cousins, who is expected to cost about $25 million a year. Cousins is pretty good, too, and he fits the kind of precision-passing offense the Bills like. But nothing about his history suggests he's a lift-a-modestly-talented-squad-on-his shoulders player. .... One plus one doesn't always equal two. Maybe Cousins lands elsewhere. But with a 26-30-1 record, is Cousins a guy for whom the Bills want to push all their chips to the middle? ... That's the path that makes sense for the Bills. Be patient. Don't gamble. Unless the guy has a giant upside, don't even think of going all in.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Fairly cut & dry from Gaughan If the Bills went after any Vet as the intended starter, what do you think that cost would be? $15 - $18 mil, $18 - $20 mil, $20 - $22 mil, $22 - $25 mil It never hurts to look and see.
Wayne Cubed Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, GG said: Fairly cut & dry from Gaughan It's hard to make any case for the Bills to get into the bidding for Cousins, who is expected to cost about $25 million a year. Cousins is pretty good, too, and he fits the kind of precision-passing offense the Bills like. But nothing about his history suggests he's a lift-a-modestly-talented-squad-on-his shoulders player. .... One plus one doesn't always equal two. Maybe Cousins lands elsewhere. But with a 26-30-1 record, is Cousins a guy for whom the Bills want to push all their chips to the middle? ... That's the path that makes sense for the Bills. Be patient. Don't gamble. Unless the guy has a giant upside, don't even think of going all in. That's not even really true anymore what Gaughan said. With Dennison leaving the precision-passing WCO is gone.
26CornerBlitz Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, GG said: Fairly cut & dry from Gaughan His opinion is exactly where I am with regard to ponying up for Cousins.
YoloinOhio Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: That's not even really true anymore what Gaughan said. With Dennison leaving the precision-passing WCO is gone. If Daboll runs the E-P, it has those same concepts of precision passing. It just utilizes less complexity in the plays and play calling.
GG Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: If the Bills went after any Vet as the intended starter, what do you think that cost would be? $15 - $18 mil, $18 - $20 mil, $20 - $22 mil, $22 - $25 mil It never hurts to look and see. Depends on what level starter you're talking about. McCown cost under $5 millon, Tyrod is $15 million. That's your range for a bridge.
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