CritMark Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Cousins said he'd never sign a long-term deal with the Skins as long as Bruce Allen was GM. They'll get a third round comp pick with the deal he's going to sign. Your first point probably raises his value, he is clearly not stupid. Getting a 3rd round pick for a starting QB in his prime fits my definition of 'little compensation'.
Nihilarian Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: If only the Bills didn't pass on QBs in last years draft yet again. They had their chance at Mahomes and Watson. They passed as the franchise always does at the QB position. If you were McD would you trust Whaley or his scouts to get it right with the QB position? Shoot, they might have recommended DeShone Kizer in the 1st. They didn't see Alvin Kamara or Kareem Hunt and instead got Zay Jones who couldn't catch a cold last season. Time will tell if these new scouts/GM know what they are doing with this year's picks.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, aristocrat said: dear god If praying made him better it would’ve happened by now.
MrEpsYtown Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think Taylor has been the one overhyped. Signed a $92 million dollar contract only to have it slashed 8 months later. Has that ever happened? Beane and McDermott wants someone who can throw from the pocket. They've said it more than once. Taylor is among the worst in the NFL inside the pocket. McDermott benched Taylor while holding the 6th seed in the playoffs and for a 5th round rookie....that tells you everything what he thinks of him. Yep. Exactly!
aristocrat Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If praying made him better it would’ve happened by now. you're so far off on cousins it's hilarious
D521646 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 If Brady retires unexpectedly (which I think is a possibility) after winning the SB, then all bets are off, we go all in to win the East this year, if however Brady, Bellicheat stick it out for one more year, then I am NOT in favor of backing up a truck for any of the FA QB's. My hope is that all these QB needy teams fall over each other signing Bradford, Keenum, Bridgewater, Cousins and whomever else, and we stay put, and use our Draft stock wisely. We ain't wining the East until brady and or Bellicheat move into the dusk.. Tim-
K-9 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: ... But I think you're confusing my past statement of "Taylor running the offense the way McDermott wants" with "McDermott was happy with our offense." I haven’t read your previous posts for context, but if Taylor is running the offense the way he wants, how can McDermott be unhappy with it?
LabattBlue Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Smith goes from a team with a good OL, a brilliant head coach/OC and 3 great offensive weapons(Hunt, Hill and Kielce) to... ? I think Smith is a good option at QB for a team looking for a starter for ~3 years looking to maybe take a run at it, but not on the Redskins. I think this is going to be a case of “buyers remorse” almost from the get go. Just doesnt seem like a good fit. Edited January 31, 2018 by LabattBlue
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, aristocrat said: you're so far off on cousins it's hilarious My opinion is so far off from your opinion on Cousins it is Hilarious. Its almost like one one of us doesn’t live outside DC, watch the skins play regularly, listen to the skins sports radio and press conferences as well as chit chat with numerous dovout skins fans season in and out for the past decade or so.
aristocrat Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: My opinion is so far off from your opinion on Cousins it is Hilarious. Its almost like one one of us doesn’t live outside DC, watch the skins play regularly, listen to the skins sports radio and press conferences as well as chit chat with numerous dovout skins fans season in and out for the past decade or so. cousins is head and shoulders above tyrod and alex smith. your skins friends will be hating this trade week 4 1
John from Riverside Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 you have to wonder if we were offered this same trade and Beane said no
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: cousins is head and shoulders above tyrod and alex smith. your skins friends will be hating this trade week 4 People can hate whatever they want, As long as Cousins head and shoulders don’t don any Bills swag... he’s about to Brock Osweiler some poor unsuspecting franchise...
aristocrat Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: People can hate whatever they want, As long as Cousins head and shoulders don’t don any Bills swag... he’s about to Brock Osweiler some poor unsuspecting franchise... How so? He’s all of a sudden going to throw more picks than tds? Stop throwing for over 4K yards? Just cause he switched teams?
SouthNYfan Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: People can hate whatever they want, As long as Cousins head and shoulders don’t don any Bills swag... he’s about to Brock Osweiler some poor unsuspecting franchise... If you think cousins is anywhere in the same ballpark as osweilwer you need your head examined. Is cousins the best QB in football? Nope. Is he top 5? Nope. Is he a top 10 QB, turning 29, available for nothing but $$ (no draft picks/players traded)? Yep. Osweilwer wasn't even a top 15-20 QB when he was a free agent, nobody thought he was. Every single team overpays for the top FA available. It's how an open market works. When it's a young QB without an injury history, his $$ will be magnified. The fact that you think he's as terrible as osweilwer is absurd. 2
aristocrat Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: If you think cousins is anywhere in the same ballpark as osweilwer you need your head examined. Is cousins the best QB in football? Nope. Is he top 5? Nope. Is he a top 10 QB, turning 29, available for nothing but $$ (no draft picks/players traded)? Yep. Osweilwer wasn't even a top 15-20 QB when he was a free agent, nobody thought he was. Every single team overpays for the top FA available. It's how an open market works. When it's a young QB without an injury history, his $$ will be magnified. The fact that you think he's as terrible as osweilwer is absurd. Osweiler wasn’t even top 30 when the Texans signed him 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: If you think cousins is anywhere in the same ballpark as osweilwer you need your head examined. Is cousins the best QB in football? Nope. Is he top 5? Nope. Is he a top 10 QB, turning 29, available for nothing but $$ (no draft picks/players traded)? Yep. Osweilwer wasn't even a top 15-20 QB when he was a free agent, nobody thought he was. Every single team overpays for the top FA available. It's how an open market works. When it's a young QB without an injury history, his $$ will be magnified. The fact that you think he's as terrible as osweilwer is absurd. I referenced Brock because he was given waaaay more money than he was worth, jacked up the team’s cap and ended up not being the prospect that was hoped for setting the team back until they creatively unloaded him and found a much higher potential and higher performing QB. There is plenty of analysis out there on this topic... but its it’s important for folks to believe what they need to. I’ll stick to my perspective until I’m offered a compelling reason to reconsider 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Osweiler wasn’t even top 30 when the Texans signed him Yes it is a way worse example but parallels the Situation I see here. I’ve heard locally he expects to be the highest paid QB in the game
aristocrat Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I referenced Brock because he was given waaaay more money than he was worth, jacked up the team’s cap and ended up not being the prospect that was hoped for setting the team back until they creatively unloaded him and found a much higher potential and higher performing QB. There is plenty of analysis out there on this topic... but its it’s important for folks to believe what they need to. I’ll stick to my perspective until I’m offered a compelling reason to reconsider Yes it is a way worse example but parallels the Situation I see here. I’ve heard locally he expects to be the highest paid QB in the game if smith can get 24 then cousins is worth 27 or whatever. if our gm can put together a similar draft this year as they did last year with all the extra picks...success
CritMark Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 The problem with gambling on any QB that doesn't have a lot of starts under their belt is you don't really know what you have. The cost just gets exacerbated when it is an untested veteran. Are you getting Brock or Jimmy G.? People forget that Jimmy G. only had a couple of actual starts. That could have gone the other way like Brock.
transplantbillsfan Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Your explanation doesn't make any sense because it's directly a conflicting statement from McDermott's. I'm not confusing anything. You're trying to find any nook where it's pro Taylor. You think emotionally and not logically when it comes to Taylor. Which explanation I've given in the past are you saying doesn't make any sense? I really don't know which you're talking about. Can you tell me the explanation and try not to give me what you think I meant? I've never said McDermott is happy with the offense under Taylor, as you seem to imply. If I've said he's happy, can you find me actually saying that? Lack of turnovers Contract that was built perfectly as a bridge to a drafted QB as it expires next year Last year's OC fired Now the one guy I thought was the most legitimate vet QB option for us has been traded It's funny that you say I'm thinking emotionally and not logically in this whole situation about whether McDermott and the Bills move on from him or not this offseason because I'd argue you're doing that yourself. I'm not really emotional about this because I want to upgrade over Taylor. But I don't think we're going to make the same mistake we did back with Fitz and EJ when we cut off our nose to spite our face.
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